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2017-04-13 05:59:56 AM  
for those not wanting to dredge through Fox to get to the clip

[Youtube video dictjRe7n_g unavailable]

What a nutjob, right sanctimonious Farkers?
 
2017-04-13 06:06:00 AM  

Munden: for those not wanting to dredge through Fox to get to the clip

[iFrame https://www.youtube.com/embed/dictjRe7n_g - 480x360]

What a nutjob, right sanctimonious Farkers?


Thank you for the direct link, a click avoided on Fox is a penny denied to the media beast that makes things like Trump happen.
 
2017-04-13 06:34:13 AM  
So does that Independent.uk story check out that all the sites going orgasmic about the doctor's criminal record acutally have the wrong guy?  I'm thinking not because it's only them, but hey, why not spice things up more.
I suppose we'll know more when the doctor's family and legal staff have their press conference today.
 
2017-04-13 06:49:34 AM  

wooden_badger: So does that Independent.uk story check out that all the sites going orgasmic about the doctor's criminal record acutally have the wrong guy?


Assume for a moment that the doctor who was bodily dragged, bloody and stunned, out of his seat, up the aisle, and off the plane so that a United employee could take his place, does have a criminal record.

What difference does it make?
 
2017-04-13 06:57:34 AM  

czetie: wooden_badger: So does that Independent.uk story check out that all the sites going orgasmic about the doctor's criminal record acutally have the wrong guy?

Assume for a moment that the doctor who was bodily dragged, bloody and stunned, out of his seat, up the aisle, and off the plane so that a United employee could take his place, does have a criminal record.

What difference does it make?


None. The point is that after they beat the shiat out of him they tried to smear his name and in their haste they didn't make sure that it was the same guy or a different doctor with the same name. If that's true and it's not him the lawsuits will be epic instead of merely awesome.
 
2017-04-13 07:26:15 AM  

AdmirableSnackbar: czetie: wooden_badger: So does that Independent.uk story check out that all the sites going orgasmic about the doctor's criminal record acutally have the wrong guy?

Assume for a moment that the doctor who was bodily dragged, bloody and stunned, out of his seat, up the aisle, and off the plane so that a United employee could take his place, does have a criminal record.

What difference does it make?

None. The point is that after they beat the shiat out of him they tried to smear his name and in their haste they didn't make sure that it was the same guy or a different doctor with the same name. If that's true and it's not him the lawsuits will be epic instead of merely awesome.


He'll be able to buy a medical school by the time this is over.
 
2017-04-13 07:26:55 AM  
"I'm just telling you, it's going to be a lot harder for you,"

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"Now, we can do this the easy way, or the hard way; it don't make me no difference."
 
2017-04-13 07:28:39 AM  

wooden_badger: So does that Independent.uk story check out that all the sites going orgasmic about the doctor's criminal record acutally have the wrong guy?  I'm thinking not because it's only them, but hey, why not spice things up more.
I suppose we'll know more when the doctor's family and legal staff have their press conference today.


Yeap, the guy with a criminal history is not the guy that got his face smashed by the goon squad.  They had the same first and last names, but different middle names.

A reporter did a Google search for the guy and found the medical licensing board report and ran with it without verifying it was the same person, which it wasn't.
 
2017-04-13 07:29:13 AM  
I look forward to all the bridge dwellers recanting in this thread.
 
2017-04-13 07:29:46 AM  
That guy certainly seemed "disruptive and belligerent."
 
2017-04-13 07:30:10 AM  
Remember how we all thought the dildonians were going to be locked away for life, but instead mostly got off?  I'm afraid that is what will happen to United here.
 
2017-04-13 07:30:54 AM  

It's pronounced pacKAGE: Remember how we all thought the dildonians were going to be locked away for life, but instead mostly got off?  I'm afraid that is what will happen to United here.


Fark is not your personal erotica site.
 
2017-04-13 07:35:19 AM  

FuManchu7: wooden_badger: So does that Independent.uk story check out that all the sites going orgasmic about the doctor's criminal record acutally have the wrong guy?  I'm thinking not because it's only them, but hey, why not spice things up more.
I suppose we'll know more when the doctor's family and legal staff have their press conference today.

Yeap, the guy with a criminal history is not the guy that got his face smashed by the goon squad.  They had the same first and last names, but different middle names.

A reporter did a Google search for the guy and found the medical licensing board report and ran with it without verifying it was the same person, which it wasn't.


The newspaper that did it has doubled-down and insist that it's the same guy:  http://www.courier-journal.com/story/news/2017/04/12/yes-kentucky-do​ct​or-david-dao-who-dragged-off-united-plane/100380420/

Even if it was the same guy, the victim blaming/shaming of trying to make it look like his previous drug problem and license suspension were a factor in what happened was reprehensible.
 
2017-04-13 07:36:11 AM  

FuManchu7: wooden_badger: So does that Independent.uk story check out that all the sites going orgasmic about the doctor's criminal record acutally have the wrong guy?  I'm thinking not because it's only them, but hey, why not spice things up more.
I suppose we'll know more when the doctor's family and legal staff have their press conference today.

Yeap, the guy with a criminal history is not the guy that got his face smashed by the goon squad.  They had the same first and last names, but different middle names.

A reporter did a Google search for the guy and found the medical licensing board report and ran with it without verifying it was the same person, which it wasn't.


I hope that reporter gets sued into homelessness, that's an even bigger farkup than what United did.
 
2017-04-13 07:44:15 AM  
I think everyone is just desperate to talk about something other than Trump
 
2017-04-13 07:45:18 AM  

Silverstaff: FuManchu7: wooden_badger: So does that Independent.uk story check out that all the sites going orgasmic about the doctor's criminal record acutally have the wrong guy?  I'm thinking not because it's only them, but hey, why not spice things up more.
I suppose we'll know more when the doctor's family and legal staff have their press conference today.

Yeap, the guy with a criminal history is not the guy that got his face smashed by the goon squad.  They had the same first and last names, but different middle names.

A reporter did a Google search for the guy and found the medical licensing board report and ran with it without verifying it was the same person, which it wasn't.

The newspaper that did it has doubled-down and insist that it's the same guy:  http://www.courier-journal.com/story/news/2017/04/12/yes-kentucky-doc​tor-david-dao-who-dragged-off-united-plane/100380420/

Even if it was the same guy, the victim blaming/shaming of trying to make it look like his previous drug problem and license suspension were a factor in what happened was reprehensible.


Reddit is all over the map on whether the guy is someone else or not. Some people are saying both names could be attributed to him because he changed his middle name at one point .

The L.A. Times is of course, defending the media
 
2017-04-13 07:47:58 AM  

FuManchu7: wooden_badger: So does that Independent.uk story check out that all the sites going orgasmic about the doctor's criminal record acutally have the wrong guy?  I'm thinking not because it's only them, but hey, why not spice things up more.
I suppose we'll know more when the doctor's family and legal staff have their press conference today.

Yeap, the guy with a criminal history is not the guy that got his face smashed by the goon squad.  They had the same first and last names, but different middle names.

A reporter did a Google search for the guy and found the medical licensing board report and ran with it without verifying it was the same person, which it wasn't.


Ooooohhhhhh....someone's gonna pay for that.
 
2017-04-13 07:48:46 AM  

cup of tea: I think everyone is just desperate to talk about something other than Trump


I'm sure he'll be tweeting about it shortly.
 
2017-04-13 07:49:42 AM  
Brutal Chicago cops?  Shocking.
 
2017-04-13 07:51:01 AM  

Silverstaff: FuManchu7: wooden_badger: So does that Independent.uk story check out that all the sites going orgasmic about the doctor's criminal record acutally have the wrong guy?  I'm thinking not because it's only them, but hey, why not spice things up more.
I suppose we'll know more when the doctor's family and legal staff have their press conference today.

Yeap, the guy with a criminal history is not the guy that got his face smashed by the goon squad.  They had the same first and last names, but different middle names.

A reporter did a Google search for the guy and found the medical licensing board report and ran with it without verifying it was the same person, which it wasn't.

The newspaper that did it has doubled-down and insist that it's the same guy:  http://www.courier-journal.com/story/news/2017/04/12/yes-kentucky-doc​tor-david-dao-who-dragged-off-united-plane/100380420/

Even if it was the same guy, the victim blaming/shaming of trying to make it look like his previous drug problem and license suspension were a factor in what happened was reprehensible.


I'm from Louisville and I hate the CJ.   Mostly for their bullshiat ad block fark you software.   And they shat on their paper about 5-6 years ago when they shrank it massively and removed a lot of content for ads, sports, and other bullshiat.    The A section and Metro used to actually be a good read.
 
2017-04-13 07:52:21 AM  
Politeness is no protection from corporate greed. United proved they will happily use state sponsored force on a polite, fully paid customer before they offer a better incentive to compensate customers for their farkup.

Furthermore, if they decide to use state sponsored force on you, they will gleefully follow it up with a well funded reputation destroying smear campaign.

Don't stand (or politely sit) between United and profit. Their entire business model is based on overcharging and undeserving.
 
2017-04-13 07:52:57 AM  
This poor guy. He pays full price for a ticket, sits in the assigned seat. He is justifibly resistant when told he has to give up that seat, is dragged through the aisle by an airline, AND THEN his name is dragged through the mud by third tier reporters who are so excited to find a story that makes it look like they are doing investigative journalism, but won't require that they offend police, corporations or politicians.
 
2017-04-13 07:54:53 AM  

BafflerMeal: I look forward to all the bridge dwellers recanting in this thread.


I sincerely doubt this is going to change their opinion that monied power and the security they hire should be arbiters of justice.

That's just how their brains are wired.
 
2017-04-13 07:54:54 AM  
But I was assured by so many right here on Fark on and other sites that Dr. Dao was "belligerent" and "acting like a child".  Could it be they were filling in the blanks to create their own narrative?  Nah, couldn't be.  Not anonymous people on the interweb!
 
2017-04-13 07:56:34 AM  

ThatBillmanGuy: Silverstaff: FuManchu7: wooden_badger: So does that Independent.uk story check out that all the sites going orgasmic about the doctor's criminal record acutally have the wrong guy?  I'm thinking not because it's only them, but hey, why not spice things up more.
I suppose we'll know more when the doctor's family and legal staff have their press conference today.

Yeap, the guy with a criminal history is not the guy that got his face smashed by the goon squad.  They had the same first and last names, but different middle names.

A reporter did a Google search for the guy and found the medical licensing board report and ran with it without verifying it was the same person, which it wasn't.

The newspaper that did it has doubled-down and insist that it's the same guy:  http://www.courier-journal.com/story/news/2017/04/12/yes-kentucky-doc​tor-david-dao-who-dragged-off-united-plane/100380420/

Even if it was the same guy, the victim blaming/shaming of trying to make it look like his previous drug problem and license suspension were a factor in what happened was reprehensible.

Reddit is all over the map on whether the guy is someone else or not. Some people are saying both names could be attributed to him because he changed his middle name at one point .

The L.A. Times is of course, defending the media


That would be an interesting take, the guy changing his name to hopefully obscure and cover for his past crime ... although I'd think it would be more effective if he changed his first name.

Heh, some articles have sprung up putting it to further question.  Seems odd that after two days this hasn't been properly settled.  It should be pretty simple to link him as the same guy or not.

On the flip side, who cares?  Even if it was him, he did a stupid thing for sex, got punished, and moved on.
 
2017-04-13 07:57:00 AM  
You could vote with your wallets.
 
2017-04-13 07:57:44 AM  

FuManchu7: wooden_badger: So does that Independent.uk story check out that all the sites going orgasmic about the doctor's criminal record acutally have the wrong guy?  I'm thinking not because it's only them, but hey, why not spice things up more.
I suppose we'll know more when the doctor's family and legal staff have their press conference today.

Yeap, the guy with a criminal history is not the guy that got his face smashed by the goon squad.  They had the same first and last names, but different middle names.

A reporter did a Google search for the guy and found the medical licensing board report and ran with it without verifying it was the same person, which it wasn't.


Was that the reporter on Twitter that was getting crushed for digging into his past?  I have forgotten her name but she seemed like a jerk.
 
2017-04-13 07:57:48 AM  

FuManchu7: A reporter did a Google search for the guy and found the medical licensing board report and ran with it without verifying it was the same person, which it wasn't.


Hope she gets sued back into her Top Ramen phase of life, too.
 
2017-04-13 07:58:59 AM  

BafflerMeal: I look forward to all the bridge dwellers recanting in this thread.


Don't hold your breath, amigo.  Much like 45* they do not admit error.  They will find a way to blame Dr. Dao, or the libs, or welfare queens, etc.
 
2017-04-13 08:00:04 AM  

vudukungfu: You could vote with your wallets.


Yep. There are other airlines that go anyplace I want to go. UAL has 70% of the flight capacity of my local airport (EWR) but there are always options.
 
2017-04-13 08:01:53 AM  

farkingnotworking: He is justifibly resistant when told he has to give up that seat


I have to disagree with that statement.  While there's a strong emotional aversion to giving up what is "yours", an airplane seat is never technically yours.  He had not justification for "Well, you can then drag me. I don't go, I'm not going," the doctor says again. "I'm staying right here."

I realize that this makes me the biggest corporate jackboot licker who licks jackbooted jackboots engaged in jackbootery, but I also understand how this works.  We can all sit here and biatch about how airline policies are garbage and the jerks at the gate are on power trips and the airlines are all about profit, but until a law is passed, buying a ticket buys you certain things, but it doesn't buy you "the right" to a seat.  Tough break, Doctor.

I'm sure he'll get a settlement for getting beat up publicly, but a year from now, you're still not going to have a right to a seat.
 
2017-04-13 08:02:05 AM  

Mad Scientist: Brutal Chicago cops?  Shocking.


I'm honestly surprised they didn't shove a gun in his face.
 
2017-04-13 08:02:45 AM  

FuManchu7: That would be an interesting take, the guy changing his name to hopefully obscure and cover for his past crime

Yeah, because if I'm Jeffrey Lionel Dahmer, I'll want to erase my tracks by changing my name to Jeffrey Edward Dahmer!  That'll totally throw them off my scent!
 
2017-04-13 08:03:11 AM  

chuggernaught: BafflerMeal: I look forward to all the bridge dwellers recanting in this thread.

Don't hold your breath, amigo.  Much like 45* they do not admit error.  They will find a way to blame Dr. Dao, or the libs, or welfare queens, etc.


One of comments on Fox has him pegged as an elitist democrat. Yay Fox viewers
 
2017-04-13 08:04:25 AM  

czetie: wooden_badger: So does that Independent.uk story check out that all the sites going orgasmic about the doctor's criminal record acutally have the wrong guy?

Assume for a moment that the doctor who was bodily dragged, bloody and stunned, out of his seat, up the aisle, and off the plane so that a United employee could take his place, does have a criminal record.

What difference does it make?


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2017-04-13 08:06:12 AM  

Surly U. Jest: chuggernaught: BafflerMeal: I look forward to all the bridge dwellers recanting in this thread.

Don't hold your breath, amigo.  Much like 45* they do not admit error.  They will find a way to blame Dr. Dao, or the libs, or welfare queens, etc.

One of comments on Fox has him pegged as an elitist democrat. Yay Fox viewers


Elitist because he has a medical degree?  If so, I cordially invite the commenter to only seen untrained, unlicenced physicians for whatever ailments he/she may encounter in future.  After taking a long walk off a short pier, obviously.
 
2017-04-13 08:06:22 AM  

Rapmaster2000: it doesn't buy you "the right" to a seat. Tough break, Doctor.

Yeah, about that:
http://www.ibtimes.com/political-capital/united-airlines-promised-fed​e​ral-regulators-all-ticketed-passengers-are-guaranteed
Obviously they were lying, but at some point, we're all just stuffed from being force-fed Divine Right of Corporations bullshiat.  I can practically taste the bullshiat when I throw up in my mouth.  Please, stop.
 
2017-04-13 08:07:19 AM  
 
2017-04-13 08:07:36 AM  

Munden: for those not wanting to dredge through Fox to get to the clip

[iFrame https://www.youtube.com/embed/dictjRe7n_g - 480x360]

What a nutjob, right sanctimonious Farkers?


This is a fine example of why I am losing faith in law enforcement/security.

Small space, person in question speaking to someone on the phone, with another person recording the request to disembark.

And it still ends in escalation and violence.
 
2017-04-13 08:09:30 AM  

Rapmaster2000: farkingnotworking: He is justifibly resistant when told he has to give up that seat

I have to disagree with that statement.  While there's a strong emotional aversion to giving up what is "yours", an airplane seat is never technically yours.  He had not justification for "Well, you can then drag me. I don't go, I'm not going," the doctor says again. "I'm staying right here."

I realize that this makes me the biggest corporate jackboot licker who licks jackbooted jackboots engaged in jackbootery, but I also understand how this works.  We can all sit here and biatch about how airline policies are garbage and the jerks at the gate are on power trips and the airlines are all about profit, but until a law is passed, buying a ticket buys you certain things, but it doesn't buy you "the right" to a seat.  Tough break, Doctor.

I'm sure he'll get a settlement for getting beat up publicly, but a year from now, you're still not going to have a right to a seat.


Rosa Parks didn't give up her 'right' to her seat.
 
2017-04-13 08:10:05 AM  

Private_Citizen: Politeness is no protection from corporate greed. United proved they will happily use state sponsored force on a polite, fully paid customer before they offer a better incentive to compensate customers for their farkup.

Furthermore, if they decide to use state sponsored force on you, they will gleefully follow it up with a well funded reputation destroying smear campaign.

Don't stand (or politely sit) between United and profit. Their entire business model is based on overcharging and undeserving.


I agree
 
2017-04-13 08:11:32 AM  

Rapmaster2000: farkingnotworking: He is justifibly resistant when told he has to give up that seat

I have to disagree with that statement.  While there's a strong emotional aversion to giving up what is "yours", an airplane seat is never technically yours.  He had not justification for "Well, you can then drag me. I don't go, I'm not going," the doctor says again. "I'm staying right here."

I realize that this makes me the biggest corporate jackboot licker who licks jackbooted jackboots engaged in jackbootery, but I also understand how this works.  We can all sit here and biatch about how airline policies are garbage and the jerks at the gate are on power trips and the airlines are all about profit, but until a law is passed, buying a ticket buys you certain things, but it doesn't buy you "the right" to a seat.  Tough break, Doctor.

I'm sure he'll get a settlement for getting beat up publicly, but a year from now, you're still not going to have a right to a seat.


You're pretending the main argument over all this is "the right to a seat." It isn't. The argument is over why he was denied his seat, the events that led up to it, and the events that happened after.
 
2017-04-13 08:11:36 AM  

Surly U. Jest: One of comments on Fox has him pegged as an elitist democrat. Yay Fox viewers


Well as a highly educated doctor it is likely. =)
 
2017-04-13 08:12:21 AM  

dragonchild: FuManchu7: That would be an interesting take, the guy changing his name to hopefully obscure and cover for his past crime
Yeah, because if I'm Jeffrey Lionel Dahmer, I'll want to erase my tracks by changing my name to Jeffrey Edward Dahmer!  That'll totally throw them off my scent!


I knew someone that misspelled her name to a cop on purpose, just to throw off a computer search. Changed an "n" to "m" so she could have deny it was intentional.

I'm not sure if it worked, I don't think the cop cared that much that night.
 
2017-04-13 08:12:59 AM  

dragonchild: Rapmaster2000: it doesn't buy you "the right" to a seat. Tough break, Doctor.
Yeah, about that:
http://www.ibtimes.com/political-capital/united-airlines-promised-fede​ral-regulators-all-ticketed-passengers-are-guaranteed
Obviously they were lying, but at some point, we're all just stuffed from being force-fed Divine Right of Corporations bullshiat.  I can practically taste the bullshiat when I throw up in my mouth.  Please, stop.


Ahem.  You're not proving me wrong:  Less than three years before a passenger was forcibly removed from one of its aircrafts, United Airlines assured federal regulators that all ticketed passengers are guaranteed seats on flights.

It states that all passengers are guaranteed seats on "flights".  Note that it doesn't say that all passengers are guaranteed seats on the flights that they originally booked.  It just states that when you buy a ticket they are obligated to get you there.

Yes, I realize this is all corporate bullshiat bootlickery, but they wrote it that way on purpose.  When you buy a ticket to Chicago, United will get you to Chicago, but they're not legally required to get you to Chicago on the 4:15pm flight that you booked.
 
2017-04-13 08:13:00 AM  

BumpInTheNight: Munden: for those not wanting to dredge through Fox to get to the clip

[iFrame https://www.youtube.com/embed/dictjRe7n_g - 480x360]

What a nutjob, right sanctimonious Farkers?

Thank you for the direct link, a click avoided on Fox is a penny denied to the media beast that makes things like Trump happen.


No, what made him happen was 8 years of Obama and HRC promising the same shiat. Get over it already.
 
2017-04-13 08:13:38 AM  

chuggernaught: BafflerMeal: I look forward to all the bridge dwellers recanting in this thread.

Don't hold your breath, amigo.  Much like 45* they do not admit error.  They will find a way to blame Dr. Dao, or the libs, or welfare queens, etc.


Why bother when all they have to say is "security is paramount, disruptions endanger other passengers"
Then everyone obeys meekly and views other passengers as dangerous - much more efficient than checking if that person in seat 5-b is a liberal or unemployed.

It is a variation of the "one person misbehaves, everyone is in trouble" method of controlling children.
 
2017-04-13 08:14:58 AM  

uttertosh: Rapmaster2000: farkingnotworking: He is justifibly resistant when told he has to give up that seat

I have to disagree with that statement.  While there's a strong emotional aversion to giving up what is "yours", an airplane seat is never technically yours.  He had not justification for "Well, you can then drag me. I don't go, I'm not going," the doctor says again. "I'm staying right here."

I realize that this makes me the biggest corporate jackboot licker who licks jackbooted jackboots engaged in jackbootery, but I also understand how this works.  We can all sit here and biatch about how airline policies are garbage and the jerks at the gate are on power trips and the airlines are all about profit, but until a law is passed, buying a ticket buys you certain things, but it doesn't buy you "the right" to a seat.  Tough break, Doctor.

I'm sure he'll get a settlement for getting beat up publicly, but a year from now, you're still not going to have a right to a seat.

Rosa Parks didn't give up her 'right' to her seat.


Oh, good lord.  Somebody hit the "Smart" button on this one.
 
2017-04-13 08:15:38 AM  

Rapmaster2000: dragonchild: Rapmaster2000: it doesn't buy you "the right" to a seat. Tough break, Doctor.
Yeah, about that:
http://www.ibtimes.com/political-capital/united-airlines-promised-fede​ral-regulators-all-ticketed-passengers-are-guaranteed
Obviously they were lying, but at some point, we're all just stuffed from being force-fed Divine Right of Corporations bullshiat.  I can practically taste the bullshiat when I throw up in my mouth.  Please, stop.

Ahem.  You're not proving me wrong:  Less than three years before a passenger was forcibly removed from one of its aircrafts, United Airlines assured federal regulators that all ticketed passengers are guaranteed seats on flights.

It states that all passengers are guaranteed seats on "flights".  Note that it doesn't say that all passengers are guaranteed seats on the flights that they originally booked.  It just states that when you buy a ticket they are obligated to get you there.

Yes, I realize this is all corporate bullshiat bootlickery, but they wrote it that way on purpose.  When you buy a ticket to Chicago, United will get you to Chicago, but they're not legally required to get you to Chicago on the 4:15pm flight that you booked.


Don't you think that should change? Or is that a pointless question to you?
 
2017-04-13 08:16:35 AM  
So that's what the misdirection is going to be this time? We're going to start talking about Hillary? That's an interesting tack.
 
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