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(Guardian)   TSA starts banning all electronic devices larger than an exploding Samsung Galaxy 7 on airlines from 13 countries   ( theguardian.com) divider line
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2017-03-20 11:42:05 PM  

seelorq: And since then, it has been apparently reconciled by, well, significanttechnological achievement.


Of course, I meant, Significanttechnologicalachievement, from the German, Grossefettetechnologischleistung.
 
2017-03-20 11:50:02 PM  
HOw about banning all fatness that pours over into your seat.
 
2017-03-20 11:54:02 PM  

seelorq: JohnBigBootay: My peaceful protest is that my cell phone has been on and not in airplane mode for the entirety of more than 100 flights going back more than ten years. It was stupid long before they relaxed the rules and it's still stupid now.

Protip: if there was even a smidgen of an inkling of a possibility that your little electronic thing could take the plane down they would not rely on the honor system to police it.

Have they ever said that a plane could be taken down that way? Could it be that, apart from a "OMG! You're gonna crash the plane! TURN THAT OFF!" reason, there might be a simpler, less crashy reason having to do with communications, etc?

I'm not trolling...I honestly don't know why they do it...but I've never exactly heard that it threatened the ability of the plane to stay airborne. And it's probably not due to spite or stigginit, as they will do anything to keep their first-class customers first-class customers.


The ban actually isn't because of problems with the plane at all.  The ban isn't from the FAA - which actually has no policy about cell phone usage on planes - it's from the FCC, and the original rationale had to do with a phone rapidly moving between base stations or trying to connect to multiple base stations at once.  They didn't think it would potentially disrupt airplane electronics, they thought it would potentially disrupt the cellular network.
 
2017-03-21 12:10:16 AM  
Ah. More rules to address the paranoia of hideously overpaid old white males in suits.
 
2017-03-21 12:22:27 AM  

Sum Dum Gai: Damn, glad I was traveling last month and not this one.

If I wasn't allowed to bring my Kindle I would have been a very unhappy camper since at that point I'd already been traveling more than 36 hours without any actual sleep.  Plus I wouldn't trust my camera, even in a camera bag, in my checked luggage.  Good lenses are really expensive.


Someone should invent a way to bring reading material in a non-electronic form with you.
 
2017-03-21 12:25:23 AM  

LessO2: This is reminiscent of the GWB era of keeping people scared.  Whenever something went ugly in politics and Karl Rove needed to keep the base scared, all of a sudden there was a "new threat" and the TSA "needed" to do extra security measures.


Maybe they are enraged over a youtube clip.  Your prophet Barack Hussein Obama PBUH liked to use that one ...........
 
2017-03-21 12:26:36 AM  

ThatBillmanGuy: Jesus. Why would anyone travel by plane ever? It's getting more ridiculous than it already was. I've probably been charged a fee by American Airlines for typing "travel by plane" in this post.


Charlie checked his bags in Austin, flew to New York City,
And connected for Bangor, Maine.
When he got there, the attendant told him, "ninety more dollars" --
Charlie couldn't get off that plane!
But did he ever return, no, he never returned,
And his fate is still unlearned.
He may fly forever in the skies of America,
He's the man who never returned.
 
2017-03-21 12:35:59 AM  

Camus27: Sum Dum Gai: Damn, glad I was traveling last month and not this one.

If I wasn't allowed to bring my Kindle I would have been a very unhappy camper since at that point I'd already been traveling more than 36 hours without any actual sleep.  Plus I wouldn't trust my camera, even in a camera bag, in my checked luggage.  Good lenses are really expensive.

Someone should invent a way to bring reading material in a non-electronic form with you.


I was out backpacking for two weeks, so the Kindle had the advantages of being lighter and smaller than a comparable amount of books, and I could use it after dark without wasting valuable battery life on my headlamp.
 
2017-03-21 12:38:44 AM  

Sum Dum Gai: seelorq:
The ban actually isn't because of problems with the plane at all.  The ban isn't from the FAA - which actually has no policy about cell phone usage on planes - it's from the FCC, and the original rationale had to do with a phone rapidly moving between base stations or trying to connect to multiple base stations at once.  They didn't think it would potentially disrupt airplane electronics, they thought it would potentially disrupt the cellular network.


OK...thanks to you and the other farkers who addressed this upthread.
 
2017-03-21 12:53:25 AM  

robert byrd non-racist democrat: LessO2: This is reminiscent of the GWB era of keeping people scared.  Whenever something went ugly in politics and Karl Rove needed to keep the base scared, all of a sudden there was a "new threat" and the TSA "needed" to do extra security measures.

Maybe they are enraged over a youtube clip.  Your prophet Barack Hussein Obama PBUH liked to use that one ...........


I always liked B. HUSSEIN Obama, personally.

Well, that and Fartbongo.
 
2017-03-21 01:04:32 AM  
Excellent news. Also, David Rockefeller died.

(wink)
 
2017-03-21 01:12:46 AM  
Ugh, once this sets in, the rest of the world will soon follow suit.
 
2017-03-21 01:14:36 AM  

LessO2: robert byrd non-racist democrat: LessO2: This is reminiscent of the GWB era of keeping people scared.  Whenever something went ugly in politics and Karl Rove needed to keep the base scared, all of a sudden there was a "new threat" and the TSA "needed" to do extra security measures.

Maybe they are enraged over a youtube clip.  Your prophet Barack Hussein Obama PBUH liked to use that one ...........

I always liked B. HUSSEIN Obama, personally.

Well, that and Fartbongo.


It's really sad that trolls are recycling the old memes.
 
2017-03-21 01:57:13 AM  

robert byrd non-racist democrat: LessO2: This is reminiscent of the GWB era of keeping people scared.  Whenever something went ugly in politics and Karl Rove needed to keep the base scared, all of a sudden there was a "new threat" and the TSA "needed" to do extra security measures.

Maybe they are enraged over a youtube clip.  Your prophet Barack Hussein Obama PBUH liked to use that one ...........


Ooooo!!! B.HUSSIEN is a scary Moozlum. So edgy. So bold. Suck that little Cheeto harder, and maybe you'll MAGA.
 
2017-03-21 02:02:19 AM  

ThatBillmanGuy: Jesus. Why would anyone travel by plane ever? It's getting more ridiculous than it already was.


Part of implementing a successful totalitarian regime is convincing the ordinary citizens that they have no good reason to leave the country, or that it would be too much of a hassle.  I imagine most North Koreans say the same thing about air travel.
 
2017-03-21 02:18:08 AM  

Plant Rights Activist: ThatBillmanGuy: Jesus. Why would anyone travel by plane ever? It's getting more ridiculous than it already was. I've probably been charged a fee by American Airlines for typing "travel by plane" in this post.

I only travel by dirigible.


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Smoke 'em if you've got 'em!
 
2017-03-21 02:22:26 AM  

LessO2: whatisaidwas: That Guy...From That Show!: BumpInTheNight: Trump's slaughter of the domestic tourism industry will be amusing, as someone mentioned above:  You don't fark with Disney.

Tourism isn't Disney's cash cow, Disney makes far more with products, media, and entertainment.

Disney could shut down Disney World and Disney Land and not even flinch.  They're not about foreign tourism, they're about domestic.

I think the owners of all the half-empty hotels and restaurants in Anaheim and Orlando might have something to say about it.  Convention center booking offices, cab drivers, other them parks, you name it.  I bet we'll see local sales tax revenue evaporating in these places.  Look out for Great Recession 2.0.

Looks like the point was about The Mouse, not the hotels nearby.  But yes, that's true about the collateral damage.

The Mouse is already losing enough money with ESPN.  Slower park attendance would mean less $30 Mickey Mouse ears sold, and after awhile they WILL say something.


Exactly, the others completely missed the point.
 
2017-03-21 02:31:46 AM  

Sugarbombs: That Guy...From That Show!: BumpInTheNight: Trump's slaughter of the domestic tourism industry will be amusing, as someone mentioned above:  You don't fark with Disney.

Tourism isn't Disney's cash cow, Disney makes far more with products, media, and entertainment.

Disney could shut down Disney World and Disney Land and not even flinch.  They're not about foreign tourism, they're about domestic.

Not for long.  The brand has placed too much identity on having a magical place to visit, even if a fan never goes.


That is incorrect.  Disney owns far to much to worry about the loss of Disney World and Disney Land.  They are useful for domestic advertisement but not foreign.  It's not like everyone in China wakes up in the morning and thinks 'my life would be complete if i visited Disney Land.'

You're being totally silly believing that to be true Sugarbombs.
 
2017-03-21 02:33:46 AM  

ThreadSinger: siennaskye: i like how this was a secret order.. that the public - probably american, wasnt supposed to know about it... which we woulda anyways after the 96 hours was up...

also how it only affects non american airlines to and from those countries. i dont even know what to say here....

This. A secret order... which the public will know about the exact first time a passenger is denied a device.

If the logic is a tablet sized device could carry a suitably energetic payload to bring down an aircraft, once (if?) battery tech catches up, a friggin pacemaker will be considered an explosive device.


Then you'll have to check your pacemaker before boarding.  Simple!
 
2017-03-21 04:13:58 AM  

Spermbot: cyberspacedout: interstellar_tedium: midigod: TedCruz'sCrazyDad: Most cargo holds are not pressurized. Lack of oxygen would put out the fire*.

Yes, they are both pressurized and temp controlled, because of some of the "live" cargo they carry (pets, live animals for restaurant menus). Also, some of the larger wide-body aircraft have galley facilities in the cargo hold area that flight attendants have to access during flight.

Not only that there are plenty of simple things that can go off with no oxygen, which I know because I have been helping someone design a rocket (don't ask)

Considering your screen name, I'm sure the answer would be boring.

Rockets are never boring.


Depends which way they're pointing.
 
2017-03-21 05:36:45 AM  

That Guy...From That Show!: Sugarbombs: That Guy...From That Show!: BumpInTheNight: Trump's slaughter of the domestic tourism industry will be amusing, as someone mentioned above:  You don't fark with Disney.

Tourism isn't Disney's cash cow, Disney makes far more with products, media, and entertainment.

Disney could shut down Disney World and Disney Land and not even flinch.  They're not about foreign tourism, they're about domestic.

Not for long.  The brand has placed too much identity on having a magical place to visit, even if a fan never goes.

That is incorrect.  Disney owns far to much to worry about the loss of Disney World and Disney Land.  They are useful for domestic advertisement but not foreign.  It's not like everyone in China wakes up in the morning and thinks 'my life would be complete if i visited Disney Land.'

You're being totally silly believing that to be true Sugarbombs.


Given that MCO is full of families, some still dressed in pajamas, at 5 am trying to make their jump to JFK/BOS for points east of the pond, I'm going to have to pull the physical evidence card on you.  It's a pain in the butt when trying to do business travel, but it is kind of hilarious to see princess wands being placed on the belt for screening.  The security bump from gold status is kind of worthless, too, since many international connections get to go through the first class line as well.
 
2017-03-21 07:42:49 AM  

pendy575: And how will they enforce this exactly on foreign carriers flying from outside the US?


A few months ago American carriers in airports in other countries had already been cordoned off.  You get your ID checked by "security" aka as the army Before you get to the checkin counter and then once again to get In the gate.  They are in their own section of the airport now.  I bet they did the same thing for the parts of the airport you can't see.

And I live on an island so I'm not sure how I get to Point B without flying when I don't own a damn yacht?
 
2017-03-21 07:43:45 AM  
More f**king amateur hour.
Thanks. Drumft.
 
2017-03-21 08:46:20 AM  

That Guy...From That Show!: Sugarbombs: That Guy...From That Show!: BumpInTheNight: Trump's slaughter of the domestic tourism industry will be amusing, as someone mentioned above:  You don't fark with Disney.

Tourism isn't Disney's cash cow, Disney makes far more with products, media, and entertainment.

Disney could shut down Disney World and Disney Land and not even flinch.  They're not about foreign tourism, they're about domestic.

Not for long.  The brand has placed too much identity on having a magical place to visit, even if a fan never goes.

That is incorrect.  Disney owns far to much to worry about the loss of Disney World and Disney Land.  They are useful for domestic advertisement but not foreign.  It's not like everyone in China wakes up in the morning and thinks 'my life would be complete if i visited Disney Land.'

You're being totally silly believing that to be true Sugarbombs.


In the first quarter of 2016 the collective parks accounted for 28% of total revenue - not a complete reliance but a pretty important component of their operating model.  Of course, if anyone here has a hundred bucks in their wallet (or in mom's purse) I'm happy to take $28 off their hands since it's not that big of a deal.

https://thewaltdisneycompany.com/the-walt-disney-company-reports-reco​r​d-quarterly-earnings-for-the-first-quarter-of-fiscal-2016/
 
2017-03-21 10:40:34 AM  

dentalhilljack: In the first quarter of 2016 the collective parks accounted for 28% of total revenue - not a complete reliance but a pretty important component of their operating model.  Of course, if anyone here has a hundred bucks in their wallet (or in mom's purse) I'm happy to take $28 off their hands since it's not that big of a deal.


Exactly.  Once someone has that much profit/wealth, them losing 1 out of 4 dollars isn't a huge deal.  They already have far more money than they need.

Well said.
 
2017-03-21 04:32:36 PM  
This seems like such a trivial inconvenience for laptop-bomber terrorists. Now they'll have change planes on a layover in a non-banned country if they want to detonate in the passenger compartment. Since they strike once every, what, never happened before? They'll inconvience maybe one terrorist by a couple hours once a century, while inconviencing hundreds of millions of non-terrorists every year.
 
2017-03-21 05:07:14 PM  

T Baggins: This seems like such a trivial inconvenience for laptop-bomber terrorists. Now they'll have change planes on a layover in a non-banned country if they want to detonate in the passenger compartment. Since they strike once every, what, never happened before? They'll inconvience maybe one terrorist by a couple hours once a century, while inconviencing hundreds of millions of non-terrorists every year.


Actually there was one, they think it was his laptop... Guy blew a whole not quite big enough for a person in the side of the plane, and went through it anyway, because (science!) cabin pressure.
No one else was even injured, the plane landed safely.
 
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