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2017-03-02 10:15:48 AM  
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2017-03-02 10:27:04 AM  
A bunch of mindless jerks who will be the first up against the wall when the revolution comes?
 
2017-03-02 10:36:16 AM  

Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: A bunch of mindless jerks who will be the first up against the wall when the revolution comes?


That was all I could think of as well.
 
2017-03-02 10:46:45 AM  
What's going on in this thread?
 
2017-03-02 11:24:58 AM  
I will admit, I thought that was one of the corporations out of the Missionforce:Cyberstorm series, until my brain caught up and reminded me about not panicking, towels, and etc.

So, I was sorta of caught in the thought "wait, so, humans will be bioderms?"
 
2017-03-02 11:42:55 AM  

ZZ9 Plural Z Alpha: What's going on in this thread?


Genuine people personalities
 
2017-03-02 11:56:40 AM  

cretinbob: ZZ9 Plural Z Alpha: What's going on in this thread?

Genuine people personalities


*unbearable air of smugness on* Thank you for using this thread.
 
2017-03-02 11:58:32 AM  
Why Facebook hasn't adopted the "Share and Enjoy" slogan, I have no idea.
 
2017-03-02 12:02:36 PM  

cretinbob: [www.figmentfly.com image 850x485]


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2017-03-02 12:47:17 PM  
It has been my pleasure posting for you with the satisfaction of a job well done
 
2017-03-02 1:07:40 PM  
But what about Yoyodyne?
 
2017-03-02 1:09:42 PM  
I await the Butlerian Jihad...

/not obscure
 
2017-03-02 1:13:13 PM  
You have: no tea.
 
2017-03-02 1:19:24 PM  
The Second Renaissance: Part I
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2017-03-02 1:27:04 PM  

Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: A bunch of mindless jerks who will be the first up against the wall when the revolution comes?


A bunch of mindless jerks who were the first against the wall when the revolution came.
 
2017-03-02 1:42:49 PM  
Won't be the first time Luddites thought they were helping society by holding it back.
 
2017-03-02 1:48:29 PM  

Tr0mBoNe: Won't be the first time Luddites thought they were helping society by holding it back.


Won't be the first time various idiots on all sides of an issue tried to predict the future, and failed.
 
2017-03-02 1:52:20 PM  

Johnny the Tackling Alzheimers Patient: You have: no tea.


Pick up tea
 
2017-03-02 1:52:25 PM  

jso2897: Tr0mBoNe: Won't be the first time Luddites thought they were helping society by holding it back.

Won't be the first time various idiots on all sides of an issue tried to predict the future, and failed.


Nihilism is a valid outlook on life, too.
 
2017-03-02 2:01:19 PM  
Former Microsoft CEO and owner Bill Gates suggested in February that robots be taxed in the same way as humans, opining "If a human worker does $50,000 of work in a factory, that income is taxed,"

Bill Gates thinks that profit isn't taxed?
 
2017-03-02 2:07:12 PM  
the complaints division will take up all the major landmasses of three planets?
 
2017-03-02 2:11:07 PM  

Rockbender: Johnny the Tackling Alzheimers Patient: You have: no tea.

Pick up tea


You don't see any tea.
You have:
no tea
that thing your aunt gave you that you don't what it is
 
2017-03-02 2:17:41 PM  
I wonder what Weyland-Yutani is up to these days..
 
2017-03-02 2:27:25 PM  

Johnny the Tackling Alzheimers Patient: You have: no tea.


You'll forget you said that.
 
2017-03-02 2:54:49 PM  

mangobunny: I await the Butlerian Jihad...

/not obscure


Came here to make that exact reference, and note I find that a very plausible part of futurehistory now
 
2017-03-02 3:06:20 PM  

mangobunny: I await the Butlerian Jihad...

/not obscure

"Once men turned their thinking over to machines in the hope that this would set them free. But that only permitted other men with machines to enslave them."


So, in other words, Google took over the world. Sounds probable enough to me.

/prequel novels? What prequel novels?
 
2017-03-02 3:14:31 PM  

WelldeadLink: Former Microsoft CEO and owner Bill Gates suggested in February that robots be taxed in the same way as humans, opining "If a human worker does $50,000 of work in a factory, that income is taxed,"

Bill Gates thinks that profit isn't taxed?


Profit is taxed, but normally so are workers on top of that. By automating a workforce, that tax is lost and only the profit tax remains. Gates is saying robots should be taxed as if they were human workers so that revenue for the government keeps coming in. Which could be used to alleviate some of the problems caused by mass unemployment, such as a universal income.
 
2017-03-02 3:16:02 PM  

Johnny the Tackling Alzheimers Patient: Rockbender: Johnny the Tackling Alzheimers Patient: You have: no tea.

Pick up tea

You don't see any tea.
You have:
no tea
that thing your aunt gave you that you don't what it is


Ok, I think I remember this.

I put my satchel in front of the flap on the floor, then throw my mail into the air, then push the button on the wall.  My satchel stops the cleaning robot from collecting my fluttering mail, and the mail stops the babel fish from flying across the room and directly into the waste tube.
 
2017-03-02 3:22:38 PM  

Esroc: WelldeadLink: Former Microsoft CEO and owner Bill Gates suggested in February that robots be taxed in the same way as humans, opining "If a human worker does $50,000 of work in a factory, that income is taxed,"

Bill Gates thinks that profit isn't taxed?

Profit is taxed, but normally so are workers on top of that. By automating a workforce, that tax is lost and only the profit tax remains. Gates is saying robots should be taxed as if they were human workers so that revenue for the government keeps coming in. Which could be used to alleviate some of the problems caused by mass unemployment, such as a universal income.


The problem then becomes what qualifies as a robot?  There is so much grey area in industrial automation that it would be impossible to draw a bright line.
 
2017-03-02 3:28:25 PM  

EvilEgg: Esroc: WelldeadLink: Former Microsoft CEO and owner Bill Gates suggested in February that robots be taxed in the same way as humans, opining "If a human worker does $50,000 of work in a factory, that income is taxed,"

Bill Gates thinks that profit isn't taxed?

Profit is taxed, but normally so are workers on top of that. By automating a workforce, that tax is lost and only the profit tax remains. Gates is saying robots should be taxed as if they were human workers so that revenue for the government keeps coming in. Which could be used to alleviate some of the problems caused by mass unemployment, such as a universal income.

The problem then becomes what qualifies as a robot?  There is so much grey area in industrial automation that it would be impossible to draw a bright line.


It's not impossible to draw the line somewhere. It's just impossible to draw the line somewhere where there won't be some greedy CEO biatching about it. But they're going to biatch until either the end of time or when all the money is in their pocket, literally all of it. Whichever comes first. So fark'em.
 
2017-03-02 3:38:33 PM  

mangobunny: I await the Butlerian Jihad...

/not obscure


I can imagine all of the IT nerds out there freaking out if that ever happens.....
 
2017-03-02 3:51:28 PM  

mangobunny: I await the Butlerian Jihad...

/not obscure


But we need a technocratic utopia first... and drugs lots of drugs... but only geriatric drugs
 
2017-03-02 3:51:54 PM  

PlaidJaguar: Johnny the Tackling Alzheimers Patient: Rockbender: Johnny the Tackling Alzheimers Patient: You have: no tea.

Pick up tea

You don't see any tea.
You have:
no tea
that thing your aunt gave you that you don't what it is

Ok, I think I remember this.

I put my satchel in front of the flap on the floor, then throw my mail into the air, then push the button on the wall.  My satchel stops the cleaning robot from collecting my fluttering mail, and the mail stops the babel fish from flying across the room and directly into the waste tube.


You press the button.
A babel fish shoots out of the vending machine, and disappears into a crack in the opposite wall.
You have: no tea.
 
2017-03-02 3:52:54 PM  

WelldeadLink: Former Microsoft CEO and owner Bill Gates suggested in February that robots be taxed in the same way as humans, opining "If a human worker does $50,000 of work in a factory, that income is taxed,"

Bill Gates thinks that profit isn't taxed?


Taxes? What is this Soviet Russia?
 
2017-03-02 3:54:15 PM  

Johnny the Tackling Alzheimers Patient: PlaidJaguar: Johnny the Tackling Alzheimers Patient: Rockbender: Johnny the Tackling Alzheimers Patient: You have: no tea.

Pick up tea

You don't see any tea.
You have:
no tea
that thing your aunt gave you that you don't what it is

Ok, I think I remember this.

I put my satchel in front of the flap on the floor, then throw my mail into the air, then push the button on the wall.  My satchel stops the cleaning robot from collecting my fluttering mail, and the mail stops the babel fish from flying across the room and directly into the waste tube.

You press the button.
A babel fish shoots out of the vending machine, and disappears into a crack in the opposite wall.
You have: no tea.


Damnit.  I was supposed to put the mail on top of the satchel.  Now I have to start over.
 
2017-03-02 4:00:43 PM  
Taxing robots is just an inherently stupid idea. Right now robots do a lot of work in factories; they just don't LOOK like humans. Are you going to tax them all?

Profits and revenues, however, could and should be taxed. Increase profit or revenue tax enough to offset losses of workers' taxation; problem solved.
 
2017-03-02 4:08:24 PM  

ZZ9 Plural Z Alpha: What's going on in this thread?


I don't see any comments.  It must be S.E.P.
 
2017-03-02 6:02:59 PM  

Tr0mBoNe: Won't be the first time Luddites thought they were helping society by holding it back.


Not everyone has the same definition of "progress".
 
2017-03-02 6:37:11 PM  
Backlash is inevitable, but barring total social collapse the only way forward is offsetting automation with UBI until we reach a point where we move beyond jobs and money.  The more our political leaders fight this the harder the transition will be.  I think Europe and Japan will take the easy road, while here in the states I think the current political climate is a bleak foreshadow of how bumpy our road will be.

And honestly, I didn't think I'd see this in my lifetime, or at least not while I was relatively young  (32).  The science fiction I grew up with is becoming reality.
 
2017-03-02 8:01:05 PM  

Esroc: WelldeadLink: Former Microsoft CEO and owner Bill Gates suggested in February that robots be taxed in the same way as humans, opining "If a human worker does $50,000 of work in a factory, that income is taxed,"

Bill Gates thinks that profit isn't taxed?

Profit is taxed, but normally so are workers on top of that. By automating a workforce, that tax is lost and only the profit tax remains. Gates is saying robots should be taxed as if they were human workers so that revenue for the government keeps coming in. Which could be used to alleviate some of the problems caused by mass unemployment, such as a universal income.


Workers are expenses to the owner. Expenses are deducted from income, which reduces profit. So employee income and a smaller profit are both taxed, but the two don't overlap. Having less employee expense increases profit, and that greater profit is still taxed. It is left as an exercise for the reader to deal with employee deductions and various tax rates.
 
2017-03-02 9:57:06 PM  
josephstalin:

Science fiction writers aren't that clever, or they'd be working for heads of state. A lifetime is about how far anyone can prognosticate.

Look at idiocracy. Happened in less than a decade.
 
2017-03-02 11:05:10 PM  

PlaidJaguar: Johnny the Tackling Alzheimers Patient: PlaidJaguar: Johnny the Tackling Alzheimers Patient: Rockbender: Johnny the Tackling Alzheimers Patient: You have: no tea.

Pick up tea

You don't see any tea.
You have:
no tea
that thing your aunt gave you that you don't what it is

Ok, I think I remember this.

I put my satchel in front of the flap on the floor, then throw my mail into the air, then push the button on the wall.  My satchel stops the cleaning robot from collecting my fluttering mail, and the mail stops the babel fish from flying across the room and directly into the waste tube.

You press the button.
A babel fish shoots out of the vending machine, and disappears into a crack in the opposite wall.
You have: no tea.

Damnit.  I was supposed to put the mail on top of the satchel.  Now I have to start over.


Going to need to do something with your dressing gown as well.
 
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