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2016-07-26 8:43:20 AM  
From TFA: For Netflix, the decision compounds its victory in the Star Trek deal, and arguably paves the way for new global licensing practices that will benefit both it and its competitors. Netflix has courted much controversy this year, since it launched a crackdown on users who avoid geoblocking via VPNs, by adding known VPN IP addresses to a blacklist and preventing 'international' access to its various global catalogues - with the better-stocked U.S. catalogue the most sought-after.

So this is good news for Netflix because it will mean they can do away with regional restrictions but at the moment they rigorously enforce regional restrictions?

As a consumer this is good news in the short term. I will be able to get content from other countries and other broadcasters. In the long term it will mean the winners will be the huge studios and the losers will be national broadcasters. Those national broadcasters who produce local content relevant to their local audience, funded by income from popular shows, movies and sports events they have rights to. Take away their exclusivity for those popular shows and you have less income for original local content and fewer viewers watching your channel on which you show that original content.

It will mean national PSB broadcasters in countries across Europe will be reduced to little more than network franchises in the US, showing the exact same stuff bar the odd variation and a bit of local news. The winners will be the multinational studios.

Still, at least the UK will be out of it in a couple of years.
 
2016-07-26 8:47:16 AM  
I'm slow this morning so someone explain. This seems like something that is only good for Europe.  We're (US) still the only country getting hosed with the Star Trek deal.  Everyone else in the world can get it through their Netflix sub.  To get it, I need to add CBS All Access and *they* still deliver the "dick" with respect to sports because of the current "let's fleece the US public for every dime we can" licensing structure.
 
2016-07-26 8:55:55 AM  

UberDave: We're (US) still the only country getting hosed with the Star Trek deal.  Everyone else in the world can get it through their Netflix sub.  To get it, I need to add CBS All Access and *they* still deliver the "dick" with respect to sports because of the current "let's fleece the US public for every dime we can" licensing structure.


Yeah, even though I don't give a shiat about $6/month, it sets a bad precedent. I already pay $20/month to HBO for Game of Thrones and Veep, both are on hiatus for a year. I don't need to pay more for a Star Trek show that let's face it, is probably going to suck, just so I can also watch the golden girls solving crimes in Hawaii or whatever the hell else is on CBS.
 
2016-07-26 11:00:32 AM  

Mugato: UberDave: We're (US) still the only country getting hosed with the Star Trek deal.  Everyone else in the world can get it through their Netflix sub.  To get it, I need to add CBS All Access and *they* still deliver the "dick" with respect to sports because of the current "let's fleece the US public for every dime we can" licensing structure.

Yeah, even though I don't give a shiat about $6/month, it sets a bad precedent. I already pay $20/month to HBO for Game of Thrones and Veep, both are on hiatus for a year. I don't need to pay more for a Star Trek show that let's face it, is probably going to suck, just so I can also watch the golden girls solving crimes in Hawaii or whatever the hell else is on CBS.


You don't drop/add HBO over the course of the year? You really pay money when all that's on is Vice Principals?
 
2016-07-26 11:17:00 AM  
 
2016-07-26 11:48:14 AM  

Ishkur: there are ways around geoblocking


The problem is that Netflix has blocked those VPN's from working on their system. So the easy to use one's like the one you linked don't work anymore.
 
2016-07-26 11:55:24 AM  

Stinkbeard: The problem is that Netflix has blocked those VPN's from working on their system. So the easy to use one's like the one you linked don't work anymore.


There are ways around that, too.
 
2016-07-26 11:59:05 AM  
Would this eventually mean getting legit UK streaming services like Now TV in the USA?
 
2016-07-26 12:15:43 PM  
All right, but apart from the sanitation, the medicine, education, wine, public order, irrigation, roads, a fresh water system, and public health, what have the Europeans ever done for us?
 
2016-07-26 12:57:18 PM  
They discovered America. Where would you be if the Europeans hadn't discovered America?
 
2016-07-26 1:09:30 PM  

Billy Liar: All right, but apart from the sanitation, the medicine, education, wine, public order, irrigation, roads, a fresh water system, and public health, what have the Europeans ever done for us?


Well, no one can accuse them of bringing peace!
 
2016-07-26 1:26:04 PM  

Mugato: UberDave: We're (US) still the only country getting hosed with the Star Trek deal.  Everyone else in the world can get it through their Netflix sub.  To get it, I need to add CBS All Access and *they* still deliver the "dick" with respect to sports because of the current "let's fleece the US public for every dime we can" licensing structure.

Yeah, even though I don't give a shiat about $6/month, it sets a bad precedent. I already pay $20/month to HBO for Game of Thrones and Veep, both are on hiatus for a year. I don't need to pay more for a Star Trek show that let's face it, is probably going to suck, just so I can also watch the golden girls solving crimes in Hawaii or whatever the hell else is on CBS.


Isn't it going to be broadcasted for free and streaming the next day on CBS.com?
 
2016-07-26 1:34:03 PM  

Fireproof: Mugato: UberDave: We're (US) still the only country getting hosed with the Star Trek deal.  Everyone else in the world can get it through their Netflix sub.  To get it, I need to add CBS All Access and *they* still deliver the "dick" with respect to sports because of the current "let's fleece the US public for every dime we can" licensing structure.

Yeah, even though I don't give a shiat about $6/month, it sets a bad precedent. I already pay $20/month to HBO for Game of Thrones and Veep, both are on hiatus for a year. I don't need to pay more for a Star Trek show that let's face it, is probably going to suck, just so I can also watch the golden girls solving crimes in Hawaii or whatever the hell else is on CBS.

Isn't it going to be broadcasted for free and streaming the next day on CBS.com?


*Checks Wikipedia*

Huh, apparently not.
 
2016-07-26 2:23:42 PM  
Invented democracy?
 
2016-07-26 2:42:29 PM  

Doc Batarang: Invented democracy?


And invented Hitler, so it's kind of a wash.

However, they did invent cheese probably, so that's good.
 
2016-07-26 2:47:42 PM  
Only the major player in the majority of recorded world history.  Nothing much.
 
2016-07-26 2:53:56 PM  

Ishkur: Stinkbeard: The problem is that Netflix has blocked those VPN's from working on their system. So the easy to use one's like the one you linked don't work anymore.

There are ways around that, too.


If it cost more than $5.99 (if the show is released all at once) then it's ultimately not worth it. 

Fireproof: Fireproof: Mugato: UberDave: We're (US) still the only country getting hosed with the Star Trek deal.  Everyone else in the world can get it through their Netflix sub.  To get it, I need to add CBS All Access and *they* still deliver the "dick" with respect to sports because of the current "let's fleece the US public for every dime we can" licensing structure.

Yeah, even though I don't give a shiat about $6/month, it sets a bad precedent. I already pay $20/month to HBO for Game of Thrones and Veep, both are on hiatus for a year. I don't need to pay more for a Star Trek show that let's face it, is probably going to suck, just so I can also watch the golden girls solving crimes in Hawaii or whatever the hell else is on CBS.

Isn't it going to be broadcasted for free and streaming the next day on CBS.com?

*Checks Wikipedia*

Huh, apparently not.


I think this experiment will fail because of that reason alone. Whether it's by design or not is debatable.
 
2016-07-26 3:26:40 PM  
I wonder how long before Canadians can watch first run movies and current television shows on American websites without being geo-blocked by Netflix, the networks (US and Canadian) and all the usual suspects in the industries involved in protecting their profits at the expense of the audiences of half a continent?

I understand the utility of having regions so that you don't have to roll things out everywhere at once. Profits. That's the utility. Fewer jobs. Less complexity of certain kinds, more complexity of other kinds. But it is extremely frustrating to have to wait months and years for content that swiftly becomes obsolete, such as last night's talkshow or comedy.

It is extremely frustrating when your favourite show is not taken up by the CBC or the other network and you have to wait for a random DVD release or try to watch the damn show online a week or two behind the infotainment cycle.

Please, will nobody think of the Canadians?

People are getting new episodes of shows in Australia or Austria (whichever is which) that Canadians can not see fifty miles from the US border.

This sucks. Change it.

Or we will do to American television, webisodes and movies what we did to Target and that time-shifting crap there, what was it called? I honestly can not remember what the thing was called. You know, the thing that replaced the VHR for recording, recommending and time-shifting shows. The cable companies were armed and ready when it showed up in Canada so it died faster than General Custer's Presidential Campaign. Any hoo. I will just have to go on without it. Which was my main point any way. We will just have to go on without American programming.

We'll ignore your fracking second hand half-assed crap and co-produce some more with Australia, France and the UK, plus occasional pick-up games with Spain and other countries.
 
2016-07-26 3:34:26 PM  
All right, but apart from the sanitation, medicine, education, wine, public order, irrigation, roads, the fresh water system and public health, what have the Europeans ever done for us?
 
2016-07-26 3:39:07 PM  
I got it! Random Googling and I got it. My recall is slowing with middle age, but I keep digging and eventually remember what I want to know. He's not heavy, he's my brother!

Oh, Kryten. You are such a witty droid.


The defunct technology in question was called TiVo. Half an hour later in Newfoundland, half a lifetime too late in Canada.

You know, that was the one that was constantly recommending gay pron to your family because the gay guy across the street kept sneaking into your house when nobody was there and watching and recording gay pron shows that you, your wife and your children would never even know existed if the TiVo wasn't being remotely controlled by the gay guy across the street and the DNC.
 
2016-07-26 3:44:43 PM  

venton: All right, but apart from the sanitation, medicine, education, wine, public order, irrigation, roads, the fresh water system and public health, what have the Europeans ever done for us?


Well, the English language, the basis of all your culture, politics and economics, and of course, the capital which built your turnpikes, highways, canals, cattle ranches, factories, cotton plantations, and yada, yada, yada. Oh, and the Kings of England, France, Spain and so forth paid for the exploration and conquest of the land from the natives.

You only rebelled when you were told to stop trading with the enemy, stop invading Indian Territory and start paying for the cost of the so-called French and Indian Wars. Which, if the French and Indian Wars were anything like Vietnam, you never did pay for and they are still on your tab, aka the National Debt, which mysterious ballooned from less than a trillion to many trillions when Republicans learned from Reagan that debt doesn't matter.

I could go on and on and on as I usually do, with logic and facts and links and stuff. But it is all fiddley details once you realize that every single one of your ancestors (except slaves, coolies, laundry men, etc.) were Europeans and brought their massive collective and individual contributions to the New World everywhere. For better and for worse, in sickness and in healthy, until God do you part from other people's property and other people's ideas.
 
2016-07-26 3:50:20 PM  
European lives matter, Mr. Trump.


Remember that. European lives matter. I am not saying that non-European lives do not matter. They matter too. The two statements are not mutually exclusive, like black and white. They can both be true, like black lives matter and white lives matter. Think about that before you push the button to bomb Europe.

I know it is big, red, shiney and candy coloured button. The plot device man keeps pushing your nose in it and yammering about how exciting it would be to push the History Eraser button. Pushing the Big Red Button eads to infinite publicity and drama.

People, if there are any, will talk about nothing but you forever. You will be history. Much of everything will be history. You do not distinguish between good attention and bad attention, because you have the miind of a psychotic child, but think for once Mr. Trump. Think of the real estate that would become valueless, much of it ostensibly owned by you, and even more with your name on it.
 
2016-07-26 3:57:38 PM  
What the flying fark happened to this thread? How the hell is an article about Netflix w/ a goofy Monty Python quote gone down the shiatter so farking fast?
 
2016-07-26 3:57:40 PM  
DONALD TRUMP MUST DIE (at the hands of the Republican Party)


I am not going to kill him. I am a Liberal. I am an atheist. Atheists don't kill people for their beliefs. We bore them to death slowly and quietly. It gives then the option of escaping if they are smart enough to realize that they are like the proverbial frog in slowing heating water in a pot on the stove top.

You have to kill him. You Conservatives. He is your baby, you spank him. Or at least diaper the fecker he is crawling all over the place shiatting at will and dragging it everywhere.

It would not be the first time you took a shot at one of your own. Remember George Wallace? Remember Nixon? Remember George Bush Sr. the famous Liberal or his Liberal son, George W. Bush, Jr.? No of course you don't. You remember only the needs of the present moment. In a perverse way you follow the teachings of the Lord and take no thought for the morrow nor have any remembrance of former days except to foolishly believe they were better than these. Thou doth not inquiredly wisely after such things.

But Conservative Mad Scientists built the Monster and they have to take him out.

It is your play, Dr. Frankenstein. Either you kill the Monster or the Monster kills you and rapes and dismembers your blushing bride as a wedding present to his own somewhat greener Bride.
 
2016-07-26 3:59:15 PM  

Trocadero: What the flying fark happened to this thread? How the hell is an article about Netflix w/ a goofy Monty Python quote gone down the shiatter so farking fast?


TV? Cable? The Republican National Party? It has always been going down the shiatter, Bub.

We didn't start the fire, though. We didn't ignite it but we tried to fight it.
 
2016-07-26 4:00:33 PM  
Netflix too shall pass. They are charging me $12.00 a month now for a service I barely use. They are going to pass all right.

They are going to pass when I pass on Netflix and it goes the way of TiVo, only a bit slower.
 
2016-07-27 12:53:27 AM  

brantgoose: I wonder how long before Canadians can watch first run movies and current television shows on American websites without being geo-blocked by Netflix, the networks (US and Canadian) and all the usual suspects in the industries involved in protecting their profits at the expense of the audiences of half a continent?

I understand the utility of having regions so that you don't have to roll things out everywhere at once. Profits. That's the utility. Fewer jobs. Less complexity of certain kinds, more complexity of other kinds. But it is extremely frustrating to have to wait months and years for content that swiftly becomes obsolete, such as last night's talkshow or comedy.

It is extremely frustrating when your favourite show is not taken up by the CBC or the other network and you have to wait for a random DVD release or try to watch the damn show online a week or two behind the infotainment cycle.

Please, will nobody think of the Canadians?

People are getting new episodes of shows in Australia or Austria (whichever is which) that Canadians can not see fifty miles from the US border.

This sucks. Change it.

Or we will do to American television, webisodes and movies what we did to Target and that time-shifting crap there, what was it called? I honestly can not remember what the thing was called. You know, the thing that replaced the VHR for recording, recommending and time-shifting shows. The cable companies were armed and ready when it showed up in Canada so it died faster than General Custer's Presidential Campaign. Any hoo. I will just have to go on without it. Which was my main point any way. We will just have to go on without American programming.

We'll ignore your fracking second hand half-assed crap and co-produce some more with Australia, France and the UK, plus occasional pick-up games with Spain and other countries.


take it up with your MP, silly Canuckistanian.  your TV waves are required to carry x amount of Canadian produced tripe, not allowed to exceed y amount of "foreign" produced tripe.
 
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