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2016-06-09 7:28:48 PM  
Uber's legal department must be yuge.
 
2016-06-09 8:17:29 PM  
Use Lyft.
 
2016-06-09 9:10:11 PM  
Don't they know this is The Future?  Silly antiquated concepts like "laws" and "regulations" don't apply to apps!
 
2016-06-09 9:35:55 PM  
What part of asking permission and following orders don't you get, Uber?
 
2016-06-09 9:58:03 PM  
So, in this instance, they are not uber allies?
 
2016-06-09 10:16:25 PM  
Well isn't that just super?
 
2016-06-10 1:35:47 AM  

zjoik: So, in this instance, they are not uber allies?


Goddamn, that's the only reason I came in here.
 
2016-06-10 2:32:39 AM  
Everybody wants progress but nobody wants it to change anything.
 
2016-06-10 4:15:48 AM  

jjorsett: Everybody wants progress but nobody wants it to change anything.


The problem really is that in some of these countries there's no real competition. I'm amazed at how people defend what's going on in some places where there's basically a stitch up between the incumbent taxi drivers and the government. It's basically corrupt.

See, Uber have done nothing with regards to the UK. They operate completely within the law, and that's because the UK has sensible taxi licensing laws. Anyone can set up as a taxi driver who has a clean license, an insured car and clean criminal record. Those are the protections the public wants and add almost no cost. Where I live it's £100 to get a taxi license.
 
2016-06-10 5:14:21 AM  

farkeruk: jjorsett: Everybody wants progress but nobody wants it to change anything.

The problem really is that in some of these countries there's no real competition. I'm amazed at how people defend what's going on in some places where there's basically a stitch up between the incumbent taxi drivers and the government. It's basically corrupt.


People still have to obey "corrupt" laws.  Even when those people are multi-billion dollar corporations.

Of course you can always fight the "corruption" by being even more corrupt.  I wonder what the going rate for a french legislator is these days and how it compares to Uber's profits in the country.
 
2016-06-10 7:35:21 AM  
People still have to obey "corrupt" laws.  Even when those people are multi-billion dollar corporations.

Well, no. They can accept the punishment.

Uber's playing a clever game. They're starting a service in places, offering cheap fares to people who like them, then letting the government shut them down. Cue biatching from the population to the lawmakers.

Sometimes the law is wrong and one of the best ways of changing it is breaking it.
 
2016-06-10 8:17:52 AM  

farkeruk: People still have to obey "corrupt" laws.  Even when those people are multi-billion dollar corporations.

Well, no. They can accept the punishment.

Uber's playing a clever game. They're starting a service in places, offering cheap fares to people who like them, then letting the government shut them down. Cue biatching from the population to the lawmakers.

Sometimes the law is wrong and one of the best ways of changing it is breaking it.


Except Rosa Parks wasn't fighting for her ability to make millions by bulldozing traditional views of labor rights.

I suspect (hope) these countries will take this situation as notice that they should improve their taxi and public transportation systems, not offshore the entire project to some shady assholes in California with a long history of trying to fark over governments and considering themselves above the law because Apps.
 
2016-06-10 9:17:56 AM  

dookdookdook: Except Rosa Parks wasn't fighting for her ability to make millions by bulldozing traditional views of labor rights destroying cosy cartels.

I suspect (hope) these countries will take this situation as notice that they should improve their taxi and public transportation systems, not offshore the entire project to some shady assholes in California with a long history of trying to fark over governments and considering themselves above the law because Apps.


Who cares if it's Californians running the cabs instead of Parisians or Berliners?
 
2016-06-10 9:48:48 AM  

farkeruk: dookdookdook: Except Rosa Parks wasn't fighting for her ability to make millions by bulldozing traditional views of labor rights destroying cosy cartels.

I suspect (hope) these countries will take this situation as notice that they should improve their taxi and public transportation systems, not offshore the entire project to some shady assholes in California with a long history of trying to fark over governments and considering themselves above the law because Apps.

Who cares if it's Californians running the cabs instead of Parisians or Berliners?


Parisians and Berliners?

When governments don't keep up with the times or otherwise behave questionably, the answer isn't to unilaterally decide to ignore the law and forge ahead with your highly-profitable worker exploitation scheme.  I don't like big banks, but that doesn't mean I should set up a roadside stand next to the highway and start offering deposit accounts.

/hmm, what would "the uber of banks" look like?
//Let's say I need a car loan.  So I open the app and find some random idiot who'll loan me ten grand under whatever terms we mutually agree to. What could go wrong?
 
2016-06-10 5:46:42 PM  

dookdookdook: Parisians and Berliners?


Why? Why do they care if it's Californians if they do the job well?

When governments don't keep up with the times or otherwise behave questionably, the answer isn't to unilaterally decide to ignore the law and forge ahead with your highly-profitable worker exploitation scheme.  I don't like big banks, but that doesn't mean I should set up a roadside stand next to the highway and start offering deposit accounts.

Highly profitable? Nope. Uber are losing money at the moment.

But it's really up to you if you set up a roadside stand offering deposit accounts. Just remember that you risk prosecution, and don't be a pussy if you get busted. Lots of laws have been changed by prosecutions highlighting bad laws.
 
2016-06-10 6:17:47 PM  
"Paris is practically a Suburb of Berlin. It's a nothing commute. That's why France and Germany have always been allies."
 
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