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1646 clicks; posted to Business » on 31 May 2016 at 2:31 PM (5 years ago)   |   Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook



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2016-05-31 2:12:00 PM  
Craigslist did the real damage.
 
2016-05-31 2:43:52 PM  
I blame pop up ads and auto-play videos.
and unnecessary slideshows.

get rid of those and we'll talk about what is acceptable advertising.
 
2016-05-31 2:45:25 PM  

Marcus Aurelius: Craigslist did the real damage.


Yeah, whole lotta this.
 
2016-05-31 2:53:48 PM  

Lumber Jack Off: I blame pop up ads and auto-play videos.
and unnecessary slideshows.

get rid of those and we'll talk about what is acceptable advertising.


Yep, this. If the ads are just there on the page, like in a newspaper, not blocking your view or making noises or flashing, you can choose whether or not you want to look at them. I'm okay with that.
 
2016-05-31 2:55:30 PM  
You're free to program your website to block me if I'm using an adblocker like some have done.. Forbes I believe, and I'm free to never read content on your website
 
2016-05-31 2:55:49 PM  

Lumber Jack Off: I blame pop up ads and auto-play videos.
and unnecessary slideshows.

get rid of those and we'll talk about what is acceptable advertising.


Let's not forget legit ad networks that get used for malware distribution because they don't actually screen the ads they're serving up.
 
2016-05-31 2:58:55 PM  

Angela Lansbury's Merkin: Lumber Jack Off: I blame pop up ads and auto-play videos.
and unnecessary slideshows.

get rid of those and we'll talk about what is acceptable advertising.

Let's not forget legit ad networks that get used for malware distribution because they don't actually screen the ads they're serving up.


No comment.  Oh look this says I need to update my flash player.
 
2016-05-31 3:14:45 PM  
Nice bike
Youtube 8wBeUVYUPjY
 
2016-05-31 3:29:02 PM  
The diminshing returns of increasing the cargo cult that is advertising.
 
2016-05-31 4:00:16 PM  
Pop-up ads, autoplay videos, malware-infected "ads". I have switched to uBlock Origin from AdBlock Plus, once I learned about their paid whitelisting. Other than that, though, the blocking stays on as long as the security threat remains.
 
2016-05-31 4:01:13 PM  
Angela Lansbury's Merkin:

Let's not forget legit ad networks that get used for malware distribution because they don't actually screen the ads they're serving up.

That's the number one reason every family member runs a browser that has either Adblock Plus or uBlock Origin installed. (Yes, I'm slowly migrating from ABP to uBO...)
 
2016-05-31 4:30:56 PM  

KierzanDax: Angela Lansbury's Merkin:

Let's not forget legit ad networks that get used for malware distribution because they don't actually screen the ads they're serving up.

That's the number one reason every family member runs a browser that has either Adblock Plus or uBlock Origin installed. (Yes, I'm slowly migrating from ABP to uBO...)


What's the benefit over ABP?
 
2016-05-31 4:39:18 PM  

bingethinker: Lumber Jack Off: I blame pop up ads and auto-play videos.
and unnecessary slideshows.

get rid of those and we'll talk about what is acceptable advertising.

Yep, this. If the ads are just there on the page, like in a newspaper, not blocking your view or making noises or flashing, you can choose whether or not you want to look at them. I'm okay with that.


In addition to that, my other problem is the sixty-bajillion ad scripts from external ad networks that slow down my browsing experience. Why is it that I have a bleeding-fast computer but loading up and browsing a page is like using dialup from 1995?

Until either ad networks figure out how to implement low-bandwidth ads or some sort of native ad caching is implemented, NoScript is going to stay activated, my friends.

/Except for the few that help pay for Fark. Gotta feed those squirrels somehow.
 
2016-05-31 5:06:08 PM  
It's a double edged sword. Good content costs money to produce, and no one wants to pay for it.

BUT

Lumber Jack Off: I blame pop up ads and auto-play videos.
and unnecessary slideshows.

get rid of those and we'll talk about what is acceptable advertising.


This.

The biggest problem is the global nature of the internet does almost nothing for small local service businesses. And there's only so much money even a regional publication can suck out of the bigger advertisers. No one but old people read print newspapers anymore, and even TV and radio are losing reach. Losing reach means losing advertisers at least reduces what you can charge them. Which means there is less and less incentive for the local medium-to-small service businesses, who are the bread and butter local news media outlets, to use those outlets.

The only thing that does seem to work is being active on and building a clientele through social media and word of mouth. And that level of savvy just hasn't penetrated deeply into the population yet.
 
2016-05-31 6:02:46 PM  
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2016-05-31 8:46:37 PM  
If you want people to support your content, don't dick with them. Especially don't sell your soul the shysters for the promise of some money at some point in the future. Newspapers: Stop trying to be CNN/ESPN in print form. That doesn't work and will not work. With the exception of about a dozen top tier guys, cover local news.

I have Patreon sponsorship to people I enjoy following - the money is directly attributable to fandom and lets me cut off people who become bastards.
 
2016-05-31 8:59:57 PM  
Ads.....what are those?
 
2016-06-01 11:45:33 AM  

Boudyro: No one but old people read print newspapers anymore


For what it's worth, that's not true in the least. I, for example, love reading an actual newspaper on the weekend (I get Sat/Sun delivery). Why? I say, "Why not?"  I'm not about to bring my iPad (or phone) to the breakfast table, that's for sure. And it simply "feels good" to read an actual newspaper. I feel sorry for those people who are so addicted to their devices that they can't even comprehend why some folks enjoy non-electronic media.
 
2016-06-01 12:29:49 PM  

Angela Lansbury's Merkin: KierzanDax: Angela Lansbury's Merkin:

Let's not forget legit ad networks that get used for malware distribution because they don't actually screen the ads they're serving up.

That's the number one reason every family member runs a browser that has either Adblock Plus or uBlock Origin installed. (Yes, I'm slowly migrating from ABP to uBO...)

What's the benefit over ABP?


AdBlock Plus specifically allows ad servers to pay to be whitelisted.  Ublock has no such (known) arrangement.
 
2016-06-01 12:44:39 PM  

Angela Lansbury's Merkin: KierzanDax: Angela Lansbury's Merkin:

Let's not forget legit ad networks that get used for malware distribution because they don't actually screen the ads they're serving up.

That's the number one reason every family member runs a browser that has either Adblock Plus or uBlock Origin installed. (Yes, I'm slowly migrating from ABP to uBO...)

What's the benefit over ABP?


As JonBuck points out, some are upset at ABP's whitelisting feature. Geeks like uBlock Orgin because it's open-source and not controlled by a corporation and has access to a lot more blocking lists. It also has some of the functionality of Ghostery and will block social media beacons and trackers. It can be more lightweight than ABP, but only if you don't activate too many lists.
 
2016-06-01 3:08:18 PM  
Newspapers have only themselves to blame for not listening to guys like Arthur C. Clarke. Clarke wrote in the 1970's that newspapers would be the first things to disappear when the digital revolution arrived. As he pointed out a ten pound Sunday paper is enormously wasteful when you only read at most a pound of it. With the arrival of the internet, papers SHOULD have offered al la carte menus providing each subscriber with only the news and features they wanted with subscription prices based upon how much of the paper you subscribed to. Instead, papers continued to push the whole enchilada while people discovered google news. Newspapers are operated by dinosaurs, they belong dead!
 
2016-06-01 4:34:44 PM  

Delawheredad: Newspapers are operated by dinosaurs, they belong dead!


You sound like the sort of person who would go to a library and biatch about the quality of the wi-fi.
 
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