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(Lowering the Bar)   Paramount Pictures: We're going to sue you for infringing copyright in the Klingon language. What do you think about that? Defendants: Heghlu'meH QaQ jajvam   ( loweringthebar.net) divider line
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2016-05-02 01:56:30 PM  
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2016-05-02 02:20:09 PM  
How do you say "repeat" in Klingon?
 
2016-05-02 02:29:30 PM  

FrancoFile: How do you say "repeat" in Klingon?


"baHtaH"
 
2016-05-02 02:29:48 PM  
So, I'm thinking Paramount's lawyers don't get out to Comicon much.
 
2016-05-02 02:44:01 PM  

sno man: So, I'm thinking Paramount's lawyers don't get out to Comicon much.


A group of geeks need to dress up as a band of Paramount lawyers for the next Comicon.  They can rush up to random cosplayers and hand them "cease and desist" orders.
 
2016-05-02 02:44:48 PM  
I met Richard Hatch of Battlestar Galactica fame at a convention in December.  He talked about Axanar, and it sounds really cool.
 
2016-05-02 02:48:56 PM  

baronbloodbath: I met Richard Hatch of Battlestar Galactica fame at a convention in December.  He talked about Axanar, and it sounds really cool.


he's right, it is...
Prelude to Axanar - Trailer
Youtube zh4JbLhH_8w
 
2016-05-02 03:04:41 PM  
Their reply needs more p'taH.
 
2016-05-02 03:12:38 PM  
How do you say "petty" in Klingon?
 
2016-05-02 03:27:19 PM  
latlh boobies nIS
latlh boobies nIS Hoch pagh
 
2016-05-02 03:32:13 PM  

Rusty Shackleford: A group of geeks need to dress up as a band of Paramount lawyers for the next Comicon.  They can rush up to random cosplayers and hand them "cease and desist" orders.


Now that's a great idea. You can go to Comicon dressed in a suit and still claim to be cosplaying, but then you can leave and nobody will look at you funny. Win-win.
 
2016-05-02 03:32:41 PM  
What are the chances this becomes another seminal 1A case like Hustler v Falwell or Carlin's Seven Dirty Words?
 
2016-05-02 03:44:33 PM  

Dr Dreidel: What are the chances this becomes another seminal 1A case like Hustler v Falwell or Carlin's Seven Dirty Words?


Unlikely, this is one point out of a long list of things the Axanar team DID infringe on.

I really wanted to see the film...but those guys got big heads and seriously screwed the pooch.
 
2016-05-02 03:46:19 PM  
Zinda, his face black, his eyes red.
 
2016-05-02 03:59:51 PM  

Mugato: How do you say "petty" in Klingon?


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Suoxi?   Or is that Chinese?  I keep getting them confused.
 
2016-05-02 04:00:57 PM  

dittybopper: Mugato: How do you say "petty" in Klingon?

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Suoxi?   Or is that Chinese?  I keep getting them confused.


Mmm, whorelicious.
 
2016-05-02 04:09:24 PM  

sno man: baronbloodbath: I met Richard Hatch of Battlestar Galactica fame at a convention in December.  He talked about Axanar, and it sounds really cool.

he's right, it is...
[YouTube video]


It's definitely a cool concept, but it's a little weird that the guy decided to cast himself as the greatest hero in Federation history who was Kirk's role model.
 
2016-05-02 04:16:35 PM  
The judge will love the concern trolling (isn't that what a "amicus curiae" brief really is?) from google and oracle.
 
2016-05-02 05:27:46 PM  
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2016-05-02 06:53:52 PM  
Suck my QaQ
 
2016-05-02 06:55:02 PM  
Def lawyers should have filed in Klingon.
 
2016-05-02 08:01:39 PM  
Odd, I thought rome was long dead
 
2016-05-02 08:59:22 PM  
Paramount makes the argument that it's not a real language because there are no Klingons, but there's a group associated with The Long Now foundation that collects dead languages. If a language is dead, does that make the owners of the documentation of that language owners of the whole language?
 
2016-05-02 09:23:16 PM  
Paramount really farking hates the Star Trek fan base, don't they?
 
2016-05-02 09:25:39 PM  

sno man: baronbloodbath: I met Richard Hatch of Battlestar Galactica fame at a convention in December.  He talked about Axanar, and it sounds really cool.

he's right, it is...
[iFrame https://www.youtube.com/embed/zh4JbLhH_8w - 480x270]


This is the full proof-of-concept video that was made. It's amazingly well done.

Prelude to Axanar
Youtube 1W1_8IV8uhA


I thought the problem is that the producers are trying to make money from the movie? There have been plenty of Star Trek fan films before and I don't think any of them got in trouble. And know with Star Wars fan films the big rule is you can't make money off of it.
 
2016-05-02 09:40:04 PM  

Satanic_Hamster: Paramount really farking hates the Star Trek fan base, don't they?


Based on the last two movies (and the trailer for the third), yes.
 
2016-05-02 09:50:00 PM  

Pentaxian: I thought the problem is that the producers are trying to make money from the movie? There have been plenty of Star Trek fan films before and I don't think any of them got in trouble. And know with Star Wars fan films the big rule is you can't make money off of it.


I think they're just trying to run the Star Trek brand entirely into the ground for a decade.
 
2016-05-02 09:50:48 PM  

Pentaxian: sno man: baronbloodbath: I met Richard Hatch of Battlestar Galactica fame at a convention in December.  He talked about Axanar, and it sounds really cool.

he's right, it is...
[iFrame https://www.youtube.com/embed/zh4JbLhH_8w - 480x270]

This is the full proof-of-concept video that was made. It's amazingly well done.

[YouTube video]

I thought the problem is that the producers are trying to make money from the movie? There have been plenty of Star Trek fan films before and I don't think any of them got in trouble. And know with Star Wars fan films the big rule is you can't make money off of it.


Well, from what I understand, the producers built a working studio with the kickstarter money,  announced that the profits would be used to finance other films, and started paying themselves salaries.  Paramount/CBS generally ignored fan productions provided they didn't use established characters and ships.  There are alot of models out there, but as long as they don't compete with official licensees, again, largely ignored.  The whole Axanar thing may really screw things up for alot of people.
 
2016-05-02 09:56:41 PM  

Pentaxian: sno man: baronbloodbath: I met Richard Hatch of Battlestar Galactica fame at a convention in December.  He talked about Axanar, and it sounds really cool.

he's right, it is...
[iFrame https://www.youtube.com/embed/zh4JbLhH_8w - 480x270]

This is the full proof-of-concept video that was made. It's amazingly well done.

[iFrame https://www.youtube.com/embed/1W1_8IV8uhA - 480x270]

I thought the problem is that the producers are trying to make money from the movie? There have been plenty of Star Trek fan films before and I don't think any of them got in trouble. And know with Star Wars fan films the big rule is you can't make money off of it.


They started a crowdfunder to cover production costs.  Seems quality CGI and decent (SAG) actors cost actual money.  That sent up the red flags with Paramount. I hope that can work something out that this will see the light of day, because this would do wonders for the Trek franchise.
 
2016-05-02 10:04:57 PM  

mr intrepid: Pentaxian: sno man: baronbloodbath: I met Richard Hatch of Battlestar Galactica fame at a convention in December.  He talked about Axanar, and it sounds really cool.

he's right, it is...
[iFrame https://www.youtube.com/embed/zh4JbLhH_8w - 480x270]

This is the full proof-of-concept video that was made. It's amazingly well done.

[YouTube video]

I thought the problem is that the producers are trying to make money from the movie? There have been plenty of Star Trek fan films before and I don't think any of them got in trouble. And know with Star Wars fan films the big rule is you can't make money off of it.

Well, from what I understand, the producers built a working studio with the kickstarter money,  announced that the profits would be used to finance other films, and started paying themselves salaries.  Paramount/CBS generally ignored fan productions provided they didn't use established characters and ships.  There are alot of models out there, but as long as they don't compete with official licensees, again, largely ignored.  The whole Axanar thing may really screw things up for alot of people.


The premise was to cover production costs.. it was of course, way too wildly successful, which led to the whole alternate Trekverse talk of other films and getting paid. Paramount cannot allow an alternate Trekverse if there is money involved.  The difficulty for them is they have been allowing *all* the fan fic up to this point.
 
2016-05-02 11:37:28 PM  

sno man: The premise was to cover production costs.. it was of course, way too wildly successful, which led to the whole alternate Trekverse talk of other films and getting paid. Paramount cannot allow an alternate Trekverse if there is money involved. The difficulty for them is they have been allowing *all* the fan fic up to this point.


Paramount's going to lose their Tre-ek!

/honestly, it's probably for the best.
//DS9 WAS THE BEST!
 
2016-05-03 12:37:02 AM  
All Paramount is doing here, though, is alienating Trek fans even more than they did with the NuTrek movies. They should just buy into the Axanar project themselves, release it as a direct-to-video movie, and take their cut.
 
2016-05-03 10:27:14 AM  
The Axanar issue has nothing to do with how much the Kickstarter raised, whether they're paying the staff and actors, or the use of canon characters and ships. It's entirely that they sold products with the Star Trek branding on it, which is a clear violation of Paramount's copyright. It's the one thing the Axanar crew did that none of the other fan-Trek projects did and the legitimate reason they got shut down.

I dunno how all that relates to this dumb Klingon language issue, tho.
 
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