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2723 clicks; posted to Main » on 28 Dec 2001 at 11:04 AM (18 years ago)   |   Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook

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2001-12-28 11:07:50 AM  
Sigh. I think I should stop submitting articles.
2001-12-28 11:09:32 AM  
All your Kashmir are belong to us.
2001-12-28 11:11:58 AM  
I feel your pain.
2001-12-28 11:12:10 AM  
I don't know, those Hostess fruit pies can really pack a punch. I don't suggest getting hit by them - or eating them.
2001-12-28 11:19:22 AM  
Fruitcakes shot out of a missile silo could wipe out a metropolitan city very easily.
2001-12-28 11:20:44 AM  

look how stupid is the position of the US in this conflict. The US Governement know that pakistant is a Terrorist state before they attack of the WTC . The US gov say they wanna fight all state that support terrorist ...why they dont fight the Pakistant ??? Because they made agreement with this farking country and now they shiat in ther pants . Because if India attack Pakistant , the us gov have no choice to support them because it is a right cause , and in the other hand . This can fark up all ther plan in ther holy war against the EVIL .

Sorry american it not against you but against your GOV.
2001-12-28 11:24:19 AM  
BuRz, don't they still teach English in Quebec?

In other news, the four horsemen are seen saddling their horses.
2001-12-28 11:24:52 AM  
I don't know that it is Pakistan itself as it is Muslim extremists in Kashmir who want to draw India into a war, throw the war on terrorism off-balance, and give bin Laden some cover - to say nothing of giving Musharraf a headache(the extremists don't like him). The timing is pretty suspicious. The press has been reporting that it was Muslim extremists in Kashmir who actually bombed the Indian parliament, not Pakistan agents. Musharraf is smart enough to know that now is a bad time to pick a fight with India.
2001-12-28 11:28:44 AM  
Ouroborus : Go fark yourself . Do you speak a second language ? try the french asshole . I do my best
2001-12-28 11:31:52 AM  
That's just great. We need some serious diplomacy here and all we have is cowboy shrub. Hope they'll listen to his down-home Texas wisdom to assist in assuaging their centuries of hatred. We don't see any double standard here: we rocket and bomb the country that harbors someone who commits a terrorist attack against us. India has their parliament shot up, and is supposed to negotiate with the country who harbors the shooters...
2001-12-28 11:33:39 AM  
If there is anything worse than a Canadian, its a French-Canadian.
2001-12-28 11:37:58 AM  
We wouldn't have this problem if Great Britain hadn't cut India, Pakistan, and most of the Arab states loose from colonial rule after World War II. Maybe colonialism wasn't such a bad thing in this case.
2001-12-28 11:38:31 AM  
Anybody that speaks anything other than American is a shiat sack. Period.
2001-12-28 11:38:51 AM  
Preach it, ChodeWarrior. Even the French don't like them.
2001-12-28 11:39:58 AM  
ChodeWarrior: actually, unless it is a Quebecois, a French-Canadian is perfectly fine....asshole.
2001-12-28 11:40:28 AM  
[napoleon from bill & ted's]
[/napoleon from bill & ted's]
2001-12-28 11:41:41 AM  
If it weren't the fact that we would be downwind of the fallout, I would say let these two sh*tholes nuke each other back to the stone age.
2001-12-28 11:41:53 AM  
Why do we hate the French again?
2001-12-28 11:46:47 AM  
Einer: well... they're french.
2001-12-28 11:49:32 AM  
Because the french are cheese eating surrender monkeys
2001-12-28 11:53:01 AM  
"try the french asshole"

Which one? There's so many of them.
2001-12-28 11:53:23 AM  
Burz, I'll have to agree with Ourobus and say you're an idiot. You try to talk politics yet you can't spell Pakistan properly. There's no T, junior. And I keep hearing people talking "Don't mess with India" or "India's getting pissed". So what? India has a crappy army and third rate technology. Pakistan's army is also bad, but they have the support of China - who also have nukes. India is quite afraid of China.

India's been trying to start a war with Pakistan for a long time and purosely makes very provocative and nasty moves for this to happen. And I personally believe they are one of the biggest sponsors of state terrorism. Their army has killed about (I think) 70,000 Kasmiri civilians. And inside their country they've used minor ethnic cleansing. Some Christian and Muslim communities have been totally wiped out by governmental support. India is a very sneaky country and I wouldn't put any hope on them doing anything towards peace. They've proved they can't be trusted.

I don't think anyone really expects peace when you have to negotiate with a tyrannical government and a dictator who took control of the country in a military coup.
2001-12-28 11:56:54 AM  
Quebec - a toy province in a toy country with a toy economy and a toy flag and a toy military.

Very good looking girls tho'.
2001-12-28 11:58:12 AM  
FB-: everytime you speak you make laugh as hell lol

i know that with my comment i start a flame war . But i never imagine that the subject can be french-canadian .

It cool because it show all the stupid ass on fark that just flame other people without knowing why the do it...they just do it , it just in ther blood to be moron.

sorry for my spelling .

I need to say it because some people here gonna say im a moron because I TRY to speak other language. These people dont wanna try it , they to scare to face other people that can say they are moron because they can make mistake .
2001-12-28 11:58:25 AM  
All your 7-11s are belong to us
2001-12-28 12:02:15 PM  
fark em both. Let them fight it out. Then wipe out the winner. Two birds with one stone.
2001-12-28 12:05:38 PM  
Their army has killed about (I think) 70,000 Kasmiri civilians .

ClownCollegeGraduate : Stop to think , give me the real statistic . I know india is not better than the Pakistan . I never said , so stop trying to convince me .
2001-12-28 12:16:57 PM  
Again, these people all overlook the obvious. Let the Kashmiris vote over which country they want to belong to. If one section wants to go the opposite direction, let them go. It's how we got West Virginia...I mean West hard can it be?
2001-12-28 12:19:32 PM  
India is taking the same stance Israel took with the Palestinians: "we don't care if your working to stop the terrorists, because you're not doing enough." They'll say this *NO MATTER WHAT* the opposition does so that they can manufacture a war. The course of action has already been decided. Everything else is just lip service.
2001-12-28 12:19:51 PM  
You stated:
"We don't see any double standard here [sarcasm]: we rocket and bomb the country that harbors someone who commits a terrorist attack against us. India has their parliament shot up, and is supposed to negotiate with the country who harbors the shooters..."

I'd say there was quite a difference between the 2 events both in kind and intensity. Think about for a moment, will you. And yes, the Bush administration is a whole lot more than 1 man. There will be lots of diplomacy going on in this situation.
And speaking of a double standard [your own], would you rather have the Bush administration urge for war between these 2 belligerents instead of negotiations?
I thought so!
2001-12-28 12:25:18 PM  
World citizen: That's why Quebec is still in Canada too.

I think that really tied the conversation together nicely.
2001-12-28 12:25:57 PM  
If one section wants to go the opposite direction, let them go. It's how we got West Virginia...I mean West hard can it be?

as opposed to Maryland?
2001-12-28 12:25:57 PM  
WorldCitizen: Eh, West Virginia's not so bad. I think a better comparison is the entire farking U.S.A. - since they voted to secede from England.
2001-12-28 12:29:14 PM  
WorldCitizen, what you are suggesting is definitely not going to heppen. A referendum or vote on which country gets Kashmir is almost impossible. Since majority of Kashmir is Muslim, they support Pakistan. But India won't let go of Kashmir because of economic reasons and their deep hatred for Pakistan.
2001-12-28 12:29:23 PM  
9/10: Yeah, but West Virginia chose between two countries that both claimed it. The US just broke away from its mother country.
2001-12-28 12:30:31 PM  
CCG: I know. It would be the rational, intelligent thing to do. I didn't say it was going to happen. Rationality and intellegence are usually the first things to go when it comes to nationalism.
2001-12-28 12:32:25 PM  
ClownCollegeGraduate> uh, India has not killed 70,000 of it's own civilizans. It's a secular democracy for farks sakes. If that really happened, the free press would report on it, dumbfark. I don't think India is really afraid of China's army either. Both are fairly modern in terms of technology. Remember that India has one of the largest technological corridors outside of Silicon Valley in Southern India (in Bangalore and Hydrabad). What seperates the Indian and Chinese armys is that China has more long range missle capablities. Of course, in the event of a war between India and China, this would not matter anyways.

And when India and China did actually go into a war (in 1962, when India was also in war with Pakistan), China got it's butt kicked trying to invade India. This was because mainly of the large mountains that make up the border :P. The historic points of invasion of India are either the Kyhber Pass (which is now in Afghanistan), or through the coast (like the British did).

Warren Peese> I'd say the intensity is much more in Kashmir than in Sept. 11. The December 13 attack was just another terrorist action in a decade long uprising in Kashmir, which is just one part of the 50+ year shiat in Kashmir between India and Pakistan.
2001-12-28 12:33:24 PM  
Dang, I spelt "happen" wrong. How silly of me.
2001-12-28 12:36:03 PM  
case in point
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2001-12-28 12:43:34 PM  
ClownCollegeGraduate, let me remind you that after the partition of British India in 1946-1948, districts that were directly administered by the British were either transferred to Pakistan or India by the majority of religion.

Kashmir and other princely states, however, went to either Pakistan or India based upon the ruler's choice. It took a long time for the Prince of Kashmir to decide. He eventually decided on India. Subsequently, Pakistan invaded.

Overall, I blame the British for all of this. They should have never paritioned India in the first place. If the partition had not taken place, parts of Afghanistan+Pakistan+India+Sikkim+Bangladesh+Burma, would include a population of about 600 million Muslims and 800 million Hindus, with about 20 million Buddhists. Back in 1947, the ordinary Muslims in India did not support partition. It was only very rich Muslims like Pakistan's founder, Jinnah, who wanted a seperate muslim state so they could hold power. Gandhi, on the other hand, wanted a large peaceful secular state.
2001-12-28 12:47:41 PM  
...and what happened to Gandhi?
2001-12-28 12:50:20 PM  

I not scart to tri ur langage. I tink me do it good. Doent yu? Canada gud plase. I katch gud fish n mooses der.

Thunk ya.
2001-12-28 12:50:58 PM  
What is stupid about people who say "This comment or this action isn't against Americans -- it's against their government" reflects the lack of knowledge of people who can't fully fathom the concept of a representative democracy. Such types include people from Arab autocracies, and, apparently, people from Quebec. Strangely enough, Osama bin Laden, for all of his ill will and sadism, does realize this. He attacked American civilians, and while this was a vile and deplorable act (and inexcusable,) he did rightly say that the American people and the US government are largely one and the same (which by no means makes the American civilian populace legitimate targets.) That is not true in other countries.
2001-12-28 12:52:34 PM  
I wouldn't be surprised if the timing of the latest escalation is intended to provide some cover for our frined bin Laden. If Musharraf pulls troops from the Afghani border to shore up Kashmir, that just makes it easier to get across the border, and gives bin Laden eastern Pakistan to move around in. I think, if he's not dead already, he'll pop up in Sudan or Somalia next. Of course, if the CIA gets their hands on him first, which is very possible, i think we'll just hear one day that he was found dead. Several days of intense questioning at the hands of proffesionals can do that to you.
Speaking of which, sort of, if bin Laden were found alive, and brought back to the US for trial, who'd defend him? Not even Johnny Cochran would touch that one. If you win, Americans lynch you. If you lose, Muslims lynch you. So would it fall to a public defender? Imagine getting that one.
"Jones, I know you're fresh out of law school, and you're broke becasue we don't pay squat, and you're not good enough to get a job in a real firm, but I want you to take this very important case. The defendant's name is Ossama bin Laden. Would you like to hear the charges against him?"

"AAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH! Boom!" (sound of brand new lawyer's head exploding)

Where would you find a jury that wasn't tainted? And would you want to try a case in front of them?
2001-12-28 12:56:27 PM  
I don't know if I agree. There are plenty (and I mean plenty) of lawyers out there who would take this case for an opportunity at publicity and the chance to write a book afterwards (see: Dershowitz, Alan)...

"I mean, could you imagine a world without lawyers?"
- Lionel Hutz, Atty at law, Real Estate Agent
2001-12-28 12:58:47 PM  
Ctenidae, sure, go down to the south and get some rednecks who don't have TV to be in the jury.
2001-12-28 1:00:33 PM  
Jph: Well, the US government might represent the 49% of people who bother to vote. And of course, those 49% vote for candidates (from both major parties) that were chosen by big money. Then there are the 51% that don't even bother. A representative democracy can only represent those that chose to chose their representatives. I would think that countries whose populations vote in larger numbers would be more closely tied to their government--say any Western democracy outside of the US.
2001-12-28 1:03:51 PM  
HEY! India and Pakistan getting uppity with each other just in time for the greatest fireworks display in the world for the New Year! New York's got nothing on them (that's deep if you want it to be).

Just so you know, we don't like the French, and by default, all other french speakers, because of the French. Snotty windbags speaking french trigger a genetic reaction in us to be annoyed. If they speak english it triggers a reaction to vote for them. It's not personal. Kudo's on speaking a language and a half. I thought that Canadian's were supposed to be fluent in both... you learn something new every day.

Soon it will be time to head home and down some "Polygamy Porter". Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhh beer.
2001-12-28 1:08:04 PM  
Fault- being a recent transplant to the North from the environs of North Carolina and Arkansas, I have two points to make- 1)The Yankee Redneck is a far more ridiculous specimen than its Southern cousin. At the very least, Southern Rednecks only come in the gun-toting, tobacco spitting, pick-up truck driving, John Deere cap wearing sort. Northern Rednecks come in the New Hampshire and Vermont varients of the Southern, as well as the Italian, Irish, Polish, and Russian variants. They are distinguishable by their (respective) IROCs, Pints, generally poor attitudes, and mafia-like clans, but are united by their universal hatred of each other, and anyone else they come across. BElieve me, Southern Rednecks are not so bad.
2) A jury from the South is the last thing the defense would want. They may not be able to spell Afghanistan, but they know the location of the nearest tall tree, and probably have some rope handy.
2001-12-28 1:09:10 PM  

I was comparing the seperate events of Sept. 11 vs. Dec. 13 in Kashmir. To me, the former appears to be a lot more severe and drastic than the latter.

But thanks for your attempt at correction anyway.
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