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2016-01-14 2:27:17 AM  
The lack of a central registry or reciprocal data sharing is criminal.
 
2016-01-14 2:39:18 AM  
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Relieved to hear that.
 
2016-01-14 3:02:06 AM  
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Chico is chipped and collared.
 
2016-01-14 6:50:12 AM  

feckingmorons: The lack of a central registry or reciprocal data sharing is criminal.


not sure how the ones in your area work, but I'm pretty sure if you scan the one in my dog you get the website for the company that made it and the ID on the chip and when you look up the ID you will get the the dog's and my info that i registered to that ID when he got chipped.
 
2016-01-14 7:00:06 AM  
The chip is useless period.  True story. A tree broke my fences, dogs got out.  I go to the pound, ask if they have my dogs.  They say no.  I hear my dog barking in the back.  I barge back there, there are both my dogs in a cage. I told the lady they are chipped, did she scan them.  She says yes, she did scan them as they are required by law to do so. Yes, they did detect the chip and they got the information.  Why didn't they call me? Quote "we are not legally required to notify you". What about admitting that you have my dogs when I ask face to face? "we are not legally required to tell you".  Bastard farkers.

The people who work in the industry, including the so-called "good guys" like the humane society and peta are just flat out pet murders.  Do not trust them.  If you lose your dog, they will kill your pet as soon as it is legal to do so, so search the pens!
 
2016-01-14 7:02:00 AM  

delciotto: feckingmorons: The lack of a central registry or reciprocal data sharing is criminal.

not sure how the ones in your area work, but I'm pretty sure if you scan the one in my dog you get the website for the company that made it and the ID on the chip and when you look up the ID you will get the the dog's and my info that i registered to that ID when he got chipped.


I could very well be wrong, but I believe that there was a gun control joke.
 
2016-01-14 7:09:34 AM  

delciotto: feckingmorons: The lack of a central registry or reciprocal data sharing is criminal.

not sure how the ones in your area work, but I'm pretty sure if you scan the one in my dog you get the website for the company that made it and the ID on the chip and when you look up the ID you will get the the dog's and my info that i registered to that ID when he got chipped.


Did you RTFA?

The problem is that not all scanners can read all three of these frequencies. So if your pet has a HomeAgain chip but he is brought to a shelter that only has a 125 kHz scanner, the shelter staff will never know he is chipped.
 
2016-01-14 7:17:45 AM  
Sometimes, Cooper doesn't want to be found, and sometimes he's just asleep under the pillows....

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2016-01-14 7:19:51 AM  

abhorrent1: delciotto: feckingmorons: The lack of a central registry or reciprocal data sharing is criminal.

not sure how the ones in your area work, but I'm pretty sure if you scan the one in my dog you get the website for the company that made it and the ID on the chip and when you look up the ID you will get the the dog's and my info that i registered to that ID when he got chipped.

Did you RTFA?

The problem is that not all scanners can read all three of these frequencies. So if your pet has a HomeAgain chip but he is brought to a shelter that only has a 125 kHz scanner, the shelter staff will never know he is chipped.


I just skimmed it so i missed that, but if you are running a shelter and don't have a universal scanner, I'm pretty sure the local vet that checks the animals  will have one, they are only a couple hundred dollars.
 
2016-01-14 7:35:13 AM  
Yesterday, I was in an obscure bit of Wandsworh Town, and I had no data so couldn't use my smartphone to navigate out of there. i was honestly standing there wishing I could call up my husband or sister, tell them to 'activate' me (some magical GPS chip I dont have), find me, and tell me how to get where I needed to go.

A part of me fully believed that was entirely possible.
 
2016-01-14 7:35:48 AM  

Boloxor the Insipid: The people who work in the industry, including the so-called "good guys" like the humane society and peta are just flat out pet murders.  Do not trust them.  If you lose your dog, they will kill your pet as soon as it is legal to do so, so search the pens!


Your comment is the first that I've seen critical of the Humane Society. Do you have any more information on them? I wouldn't want to make the mistake of recommending a bad charity.

PETA, on the other hand, are well known. Certainly well known on Fark for their hypocrisy and mass killing of animals. The closest I've seen to a positive comment here regarding them is the odd Farker wondering how they get so many attractive young women to do their publicity as they've not yet twigged that those are hired models.
 
2016-01-14 7:40:02 AM  

Boloxor the Insipid: The chip is useless period.  True story. A tree broke my fences, dogs got out.  I go to the pound, ask if they have my dogs.  They say no.  I hear my dog barking in the back.  I barge back there, there are both my dogs in a cage. I told the lady they are chipped, did she scan them.  She says yes, she did scan them as they are required by law to do so. Yes, they did detect the chip and they got the information.  Why didn't they call me? Quote "we are not legally required to notify you". What about admitting that you have my dogs when I ask face to face? "we are not legally required to tell you".  Bastard farkers.

The people who work in the industry, including the so-called "good guys" like the humane society and peta are just flat out pet murders.  Do not trust them.  If you lose your dog, they will kill your pet as soon as it is legal to do so, so search the pens!


That is a great story. GSB? I'm thinking your dogs are pure and some sort of magnificent breed and that biatch was getting ready to sell them. Two details missing from your story: the breed and your location.

My guess is a rural area of the South. Or at least rural. And your dogs are hunters or the like.
 
2016-01-14 7:40:47 AM  
My parents had a black female cat with a collar named Flower impose herself. Just started showing up at the back door, insisting on coming inside. She'd been kicked out along with the wife a couple streets over. In the end, the husband died of cancer, and Flower spent her last years in a house that liked black cats.
 
2016-01-14 7:41:55 AM  

delciotto: abhorrent1: delciotto: feckingmorons: The lack of a central registry or reciprocal data sharing is criminal.

not sure how the ones in your area work, but I'm pretty sure if you scan the one in my dog you get the website for the company that made it and the ID on the chip and when you look up the ID you will get the the dog's and my info that i registered to that ID when he got chipped.

Did you RTFA?

The problem is that not all scanners can read all three of these frequencies. So if your pet has a HomeAgain chip but he is brought to a shelter that only has a 125 kHz scanner, the shelter staff will never know he is chipped.

I just skimmed it so i missed that, but if you are running a shelter and don't have a universal scanner, I'm pretty sure the local vet that checks the animals  will have one, they are only a couple hundred dollars.


The sad part is, it's not likely a shelter employee is going to go out of their way like that.  They'll scan, see no chip and throw them in a cage to either adopt out or put down. But like the lack of a central registry, the fact that all scanners aren't universal is criminal.
 
2016-01-14 7:47:03 AM  

abhorrent1: delciotto: abhorrent1: delciotto: feckingmorons: The lack of a central registry or reciprocal data sharing is criminal.

not sure how the ones in your area work, but I'm pretty sure if you scan the one in my dog you get the website for the company that made it and the ID on the chip and when you look up the ID you will get the the dog's and my info that i registered to that ID when he got chipped.

Did you RTFA?

The problem is that not all scanners can read all three of these frequencies. So if your pet has a HomeAgain chip but he is brought to a shelter that only has a 125 kHz scanner, the shelter staff will never know he is chipped.

I just skimmed it so i missed that, but if you are running a shelter and don't have a universal scanner, I'm pretty sure the local vet that checks the animals  will have one, they are only a couple hundred dollars.

The sad part is, it's not likely a shelter employee is going to go out of their way like that.  They'll scan, see no chip and throw them in a cage to either adopt out or put down. But like the lack of a central registry, the fact that all scanners aren't universal is criminal.


You keep using the word "criminal" but doing so only makes you come across as a bit of an entitled douche. You paid for a service that isn't universally available. No one needs to go for jail for that. Do you call 911 when McDonald's doesn't take Diners Club?

I don't disagree that the lack of standardization really hurts the effectiveness of the system.
 
2016-01-14 7:51:21 AM  

Gordon Bennett: Your comment is the first that I've seen critical of the Humane Society. Do you have any more information on them? I wouldn't want to make the mistake of recommending a bad charity.


http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/douglas-anthony-cooper/humane-society_b_​1​943902.html
 
2016-01-14 7:55:06 AM  

Invincible: abhorrent1: delciotto: abhorrent1: delciotto: feckingmorons: The lack of a central registry or reciprocal data sharing is criminal.

not sure how the ones in your area work, but I'm pretty sure if you scan the one in my dog you get the website for the company that made it and the ID on the chip and when you look up the ID you will get the the dog's and my info that i registered to that ID when he got chipped.

Did you RTFA?

The problem is that not all scanners can read all three of these frequencies. So if your pet has a HomeAgain chip but he is brought to a shelter that only has a 125 kHz scanner, the shelter staff will never know he is chipped.

I just skimmed it so i missed that, but if you are running a shelter and don't have a universal scanner, I'm pretty sure the local vet that checks the animals  will have one, they are only a couple hundred dollars.

The sad part is, it's not likely a shelter employee is going to go out of their way like that.  They'll scan, see no chip and throw them in a cage to either adopt out or put down. But like the lack of a central registry, the fact that all scanners aren't universal is criminal.

You keep using the word "criminal" but doing so only makes you come across as a bit of an entitled douche. You paid for a service that isn't universally available. No one needs to go for jail for that. Do you call 911 when McDonald's doesn't take Diners Club?

I don't disagree that the lack of standardization really hurts the effectiveness of the system.


You're taking it too literally. Relax, it's just a saying. No one thinks anyone should be charged with a crime for these problems.
And no, I only call 911 when they run out of chicken nuggets.
 
2016-01-14 7:55:33 AM  
Chip does not work for time travelers.

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Nor does it help the pet find lost owners.
 
2016-01-14 7:56:27 AM  
I had something called a courser chip installed in my dog. He disappeared for a few days. He's back now, but he is wearing this strange trench coat and sunglasses.
 
2016-01-14 7:56:42 AM  

Boloxor the Insipid: The chip is useless period.  True story. A tree broke my fences, dogs got out.  I go to the pound, ask if they have my dogs.  They say no.  I hear my dog barking in the back.  I barge back there, there are both my dogs in a cage. I told the lady they are chipped, did she scan them.  She says yes, she did scan them as they are required by law to do so. Yes, they did detect the chip and they got the information.  Why didn't they call me? Quote "we are not legally required to notify you". What about admitting that you have my dogs when I ask face to face? "we are not legally required to tell you".  Bastard farkers.

The people who work in the industry, including the so-called "good guys" like the humane society and peta are just flat out pet murders.  Do not trust them.  If you lose your dog, they will kill your pet as soon as it is legal to do so, so search the pens!



That's scary, to think that someone working at an animal shelter would lie about having your dogs. I hope you reported her. Unless there's some information you've left out of the story, what she did is weird and immoral.

For those keeping track at home - chipping your pet is a good idea, but it has to be done right (register the chip and update your contact info with the company when applicable), and it's not a guarantee someone is going to appear at your door and hand you your pet.
 
2016-01-14 8:03:01 AM  

Marksrevenge: Boloxor the Insipid: The chip is useless period.  True story. A tree broke my fences, dogs got out.  I go to the pound, ask if they have my dogs.  They say no.  I hear my dog barking in the back.  I barge back there, there are both my dogs in a cage. I told the lady they are chipped, did she scan them.  She says yes, she did scan them as they are required by law to do so. Yes, they did detect the chip and they got the information.  Why didn't they call me? Quote "we are not legally required to notify you". What about admitting that you have my dogs when I ask face to face? "we are not legally required to tell you".  Bastard farkers.

The people who work in the industry, including the so-called "good guys" like the humane society and peta are just flat out pet murders.  Do not trust them.  If you lose your dog, they will kill your pet as soon as it is legal to do so, so search the pens!


That's scary, to think that someone working at an animal shelter would lie about having your dogs. I hope you reported her. Unless there's some information you've left out of the story, what she did is weird and immoral.

For those keeping track at home - chipping your pet is a good idea, but it has to be done right (register the chip and update your contact info with the company when applicable), and it's not a guarantee someone is going to appear at your door and hand you your pet.


Frankly given the cost of some purebreeds I wouldn't be surprised that this happens. We had to specifically ask our vet to scan our dog the first time just to make sure it was working and even then she didn't bother verifying the owner registration. So I don't see the chip being a large disincentive to theft. And for some specific breeds I've seen "adoption" fees be in the hundreds of dollars for commonly saught breeds. While I understand that these fees fund the good work they do in the majority of cases I am sure there is a strong temptation to turn a blind eye by some individuals
 
2016-01-14 8:16:59 AM  

Prank Call of Cthulhu: Gordon Bennett: Your comment is the first that I've seen critical of the Humane Society. Do you have any more information on them? I wouldn't want to make the mistake of recommending a bad charity.

http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/douglas-anthony-cooper/humane-society_b_1​943902.html


Interesting, thank you. I'll bear that in mind. Personally, I support a local wild animal rescue who I know put money towards actual animal care but it's useful to have an idea as to who to recommend to others who are elsewhere or may prefer to donate to a good domestic animal shelter.
 
2016-01-14 8:50:47 AM  

Gordon Bennett: Prank Call of Cthulhu: Gordon Bennett: Your comment is the first that I've seen critical of the Humane Society. Do you have any more information on them? I wouldn't want to make the mistake of recommending a bad charity.

http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/douglas-anthony-cooper/humane-society_b_1​943902.html

Interesting, thank you. I'll bear that in mind. Personally, I support a local wild animal rescue who I know put money towards actual animal care but it's useful to have an idea as to who to recommend to others who are elsewhere or may prefer to donate to a good domestic animal shelter.


I've always thought highly of HSI.
 
2016-01-14 9:03:20 AM  
5 Things You Don't Know, assuming you're a farking moron.
 
2016-01-14 9:18:28 AM  
I paid for my rescue pup to be neutered as well as chipped, as a condition of adoption.  Don't know if the chip will ever be scanned, but presumably it would link him to me and his vet.  Regardless, he's been worth every cent I shelled out.

/his name is "Elvis"

//he ain't nothin' but a hound dog
 
2016-01-14 9:25:47 AM  
Also Tractor Supply Company offers very inexpensive microchipping service. For dogs (dunno about other animals) they will do the microchip and lifetime registration for $15. Its not something they do every day so you have to see when they do scheduled events.

http://petvet.vippetcare.com/
 
2016-01-14 9:42:09 AM  
A chip also won't stop a dog from running into traffic, or running into any other potential fatal hazard beyond their yard.
 
2016-01-14 10:02:13 AM  

Boloxor the Insipid: The chip is useless period.  True story. A tree broke my fences, dogs got out.  I go to the pound, ask if they have my dogs.  They say no.  I hear my dog barking in the back.  I barge back there, there are both my dogs in a cage. I told the lady they are chipped, did she scan them.  She says yes, she did scan them as they are required by law to do so. Yes, they did detect the chip and they got the information.  Why didn't they call me? Quote "we are not legally required to notify you". What about admitting that you have my dogs when I ask face to face? "we are not legally required to tell you".  Bastard farkers.

The people who work in the industry, including the so-called "good guys" like the humane society and peta are just flat out pet murders.  Do not trust them.  If you lose your dog, they will kill your pet as soon as it is legal to do so, so search the pens!


That's awful. Could you tell us what city/state this occurred in?
 
2016-01-14 10:09:33 AM  

wildcardjack: My parents had a black female cat with a collar named Flower impose herself. Just started showing up at the back door, insisting on coming inside. She'd been kicked out along with the wife a couple streets over. In the end, the husband died of cancer, and Flower spent her last years in a house that liked black cats.


Cool. Good for you.
 
2016-01-14 10:13:15 AM  

Psylent1: Chip does not work for time travelers.

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Nor does it help the pet find lost owners.


Why'd you have to do that?  That is one of the most depressing things I've ever seen, even if it's just animation it's all too true.
 
2016-01-14 10:17:15 AM  

Lady J: Yesterday, I was in an obscure bit of Wandsworh Town, and I had no data so couldn't use my smartphone to navigate out of there. i was honestly standing there wishing I could call up my husband or sister, tell them to 'activate' me (some magical GPS chip I dont have), find me, and tell me how to get where I needed to go.

A part of me fully believed that was entirely possible.


It is if you set your phone up as a kid tracker.
 
2016-01-14 11:00:38 AM  
My cats always get collars, tags, and chips. And bells, because they're sneaky little bastards.
 
2016-01-14 11:19:19 AM  

Cold_Sassy: Psylent1: Chip does not work for time travelers.

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Nor does it help the pet find lost owners.

Why'd you have to do that?  That is one of the most depressing things I've ever seen, even if it's just animation it's all too true.


It's from Futurama the episode is jurassic bark. Basically about the day fry got trapped and the last thing he told his dog was to stay outside the pizza restaurant and wait for him of which the dog did faithfully for 12 years.

I am fairly sure the clinical test for a psychopath in the DSM is being able to watch that episode without tearing up at the end
 
2016-01-14 11:26:07 AM  

Loki009: Cold_Sassy: Psylent1: Chip does not work for time travelers.

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Nor does it help the pet find lost owners.

Why'd you have to do that?  That is one of the most depressing things I've ever seen, even if it's just animation it's all too true.

It's from Futurama the episode is jurassic bark. Basically about the day fry got trapped and the last thing he told his dog was to stay outside the pizza restaurant and wait for him of which the dog did faithfully for 12 years.

I am fairly sure the clinical test for a psychopath in the DSM is being able to watch that episode without tearing up at the end


Futurama retconned the sad fate of Seymour Asses (Fry's dog) in Bender's Big Score, years after Jurassic Bark. A cloned copy of Fry stayed in the past and lived a long happy life with Seymour. But I still can't watch Jurassic Bark without getting choked up.
 
2016-01-14 11:36:39 AM  
I like these.  Really well made, not so expensive.  Have my dogs' names and my phone number on them.  And I don't have dog tags clanking around.

http://www.orvis.com/p/personalized-adjustable-dog-collar/9x3y
 
2016-01-14 12:07:43 PM  
The chip in your dog is so he can control the chip in you.
 
2016-01-14 12:26:01 PM  
Driving down a busy 2-lane street near a residential neighborhood a couple of months ago, with high curbs and no sidewalk. Traffic swerving around something in the left lane. A lady was driving slow behind a big mixed bulldog. People were screaming and cursing at her as they got around her. Parked in someone's yard and went and grabbed the dog, gawd he was heavy. No collar. Holding onto him on the side of the road, and he looked like he was overheating. Called 911, routed to the shelter, can't get anyone there for an hour. Carried him across the street and he let me put him in my car. Drove to the shelter, about 20 min away, he didn't appear in distress on the ride or freaked out, so figured he was somebody's pup. Shelter said he was in good shape, but no chip.

It was a sinking feeling watching them lead him away on a temporary leash. I was almost certain he would be put down. I was ready to adopt him on the spot, except that our place is tiny and we already have 2x. Took some pics of him and passed around on social.

Called back a couple of days later to ask, & the shelter employee said, "Yes, he's been redeemed." Heart skipped a beat...is that a new PC euphemism for getting put down? "What does that mean?" "His owner came by and got him, he got out of their yard."

Lot of dust in my office. I can totally see how people dedicate their lives to animal rescue.
 
2016-01-14 12:41:56 PM  
The problem is there's 4 different companies with 4 different chip readers that range from I believe $500-2000. Guess what? When they update their software/hardware you need a new reader. Bam, every shelter needs new equipment. $$$

The equipment should work together.
 
2016-01-14 1:22:10 PM  

haterade: The problem is there's 4 different companies with 4 different chip readers that range from I believe $500-2000. Guess what? When they update their software/hardware you need a new reader. Bam, every shelter needs new equipment. $$$

The equipment should work together.


A collar and an email address is just too difficult.
 
2016-01-14 1:47:07 PM  

Russ1642: haterade: The problem is there's 4 different companies with 4 different chip readers that range from I believe $500-2000. Guess what? When they update their software/hardware you need a new reader. Bam, every shelter needs new equipment. $$$

The equipment should work together.

A collar and an email address is just too difficult.


Except when the collar gets hung up on something while the dog is exploring its new found freedom and loosens or breaks away like its supposed to in order to not choke the dog.
 
2016-01-14 3:13:28 PM  
Chip is an extra measure that's advisable for animals that go outdoors IN ADDITION TO a collar w/ phone/address/email on it.  Chip alone is not a sound strategy.
 
2016-01-14 6:43:13 PM  

Boloxor the Insipid: The people who work in the industry, including the so-called "good guys" like the humane society and peta are just flat out pet murders. Do not trust them. If you lose your dog, they will kill your pet as soon as it is legal to do so, so search the pens!


My dog got taken to doggie jail.  Doggie jail sucks in Mesquite Texas.

I had an experience similar to yours, where they did the best they could to keep me from finding out that they had the dog.
 
2016-01-14 9:27:04 PM  
I work in an animal shelter. You'd be surprised how many people call and ask us if we can track their dog because "he's got one of them chips in him."
 
2016-01-15 1:36:12 PM  

delciotto: feckingmorons: The lack of a central registry or reciprocal data sharing is criminal.

not sure how the ones in your area work, but I'm pretty sure if you scan the one in my dog you get the website for the company that made it and the ID on the chip and when you look up the ID you will get the the dog's and my info that i registered to that ID when he got chipped.


I thought it just came up with the number. At least the scanners Customs (or Animal Immigration or whatever it is) in Mexico just show the number. Of course they don't look up the number or anything, but you have to have the chip.
 
2016-01-15 1:37:26 PM  

holdmybones: delciotto: feckingmorons: The lack of a central registry or reciprocal data sharing is criminal.

not sure how the ones in your area work, but I'm pretty sure if you scan the one in my dog you get the website for the company that made it and the ID on the chip and when you look up the ID you will get the the dog's and my info that i registered to that ID when he got chipped.

I could very well be wrong, but I believe that there was a gun control joke.


No, not at all.
 
2016-01-15 1:45:41 PM  

feckingmorons: holdmybones: delciotto: feckingmorons: The lack of a central registry or reciprocal data sharing is criminal.

not sure how the ones in your area work, but I'm pretty sure if you scan the one in my dog you get the website for the company that made it and the ID on the chip and when you look up the ID you will get the the dog's and my info that i registered to that ID when he got chipped.

I could very well be wrong, but I believe that there was a gun control joke.

No, not at all.


Heh - i realized that eventually (actually forgot I'd made the comment until I saw the new comment notification just now). Apologies for the assumption - a bit of a stretch, but it actually sort of read like a comment about gun registrations when i first read it.
 
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