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(SanDiego UnionTribune)   "I'm going to die here," Milligan recalled thinking. "'I'm going to drown.' My hair is wrapping around my neck and I start freaking out. I'm telling them I can't breathe and they're just laughing and doing it more"   (sandiegouniontribune.com) divider line
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2015-10-29 7:44:43 AM  
I am voting this link down because of the very persistent, annoying pop up ad that would NOT LEAVE.
 
2015-10-29 9:49:21 AM  
I went to a haunted (ware) house a few years ago that was so scary I almost had an enuerysm.  In fact, it was so bad my wife and I had to leave halfway through.   I've always been conflicted on this experience because on one hand, this was one of the very few times in my life where I feel I've gotten what I've paid for.  On the other hand, there really is no need to chase a man and his wife down a hallway with an actual chainsaw while tripping over severed heads and being doused with fake blood.

The scariest part of the whole experience?  We were in Fresno.
 
2015-10-29 9:55:05 AM  
There is nothing more terrifying than dealing with local government...

BOO!!!!

Astorix: I am voting this link down because of the very persistent, annoying pop up ad that would NOT LEAVE.


Also Boo!!!! Behold the popup ad that would not die!!!!!
 
2015-10-29 11:46:27 AM  

Astorix: I am voting this link down because of the very persistent, annoying pop up ad that would NOT LEAVE.


Clicked the X. Went away. Were you afraid of clicking on the X or something?
 
2015-10-29 1:05:37 PM  
People paying to be scared is scary to me.
 
2015-10-29 1:06:43 PM  
someone threw a rock at the building McKamey planned to lease, cracking a window


Oh, dear! Those hooligans will stop at nothing!
 
2015-10-29 1:10:17 PM  

8 inches: I went to a haunted (ware) house a few years ago that was so scary I almost had an enuerysm.  In fact, it was so bad my wife and I had to leave halfway through.   I've always been conflicted on this experience because on one hand, this was one of the very few times in my life where I feel I've gotten what I've paid for.  On the other hand, there really is no need to chase a man and his wife down a hallway with an actual chainsaw while tripping over severed heads and being doused with fake blood.

The scariest part of the whole experience?  We were in Fresno.


Can you explain why you were scared? You knew, objectively, that no real harm would come to you, so why run? I'm not trying to be snarky, I just don't understand.

As for TFA, it frankly sounds like psychological torture. But the people signed up for it. Don't get sour because you're not as hardcore as you thought you were.
 
2015-10-29 1:11:20 PM  
Milligan said she knew McKamey Manor was an extreme experience, and she expected to an unpleasant, terrifying "tour" when she signed up, but she thought it was, ultimately, a haunted house.

If you're gonna be dumb you better be tough.
 
2015-10-29 1:11:59 PM  
WTF was he thinking moving his haunted house to SE Illinois? He may as well have moved it to southern Indiana. Buncha backwards, bible-thumping, G-D ferrin' inbreds in that part of the state.

Plus it's a looonnnggg way from St Louis or Chicago where they might be more tolerant of such a thing and would likely have been profitable too, since that's where the people are in the state.

/certainly not around Effingham, which is famous for a giant cross next to the interstate
 
2015-10-29 1:14:53 PM  

Tchernobog: Can you explain why you were scared? You knew, objectively, that no real harm would come to you, so why run? I'm not trying to be snarky, I just don't understand.


I don't get that either. Took my kid to a haunted maze couple weeks ago. I will admit they were able to startle me a couple times and they got my son a couple more times. But there was this 20somethnig woman in the group who flipped the flipped out, she actually clawed me a couple times trying to get a way from the staff, even clung to me, a complete stranger at one point. I think she peed her pants a little. wtf? You know they can't, in this case, even touch you. I am right there with you in not understanding it.
 
2015-10-29 1:16:26 PM  
germ78:
/certainly not around Effingham, which is famous for a giant cross next to the interstate

Isn't it kinda weird that Christians are so into displaying crosses? I would think if he ever does come back that's the last thing he is going to want to see.
 
2015-10-29 1:18:42 PM  
I haven't been to a haunted house in years, but thinking they are literally going to harm/murder you with a gas seems a tad irrational.
 
2015-10-29 1:21:56 PM  
How about NOPE?
 
2015-10-29 1:23:05 PM  
"McKamey said the "kidnapping" was him bringing an electrician to his own home. He said he doesn't like people to know where he lives, so he picked up the electrician from another location and hooded him for the ride. Suddenly, the police were on his doorstep."

Seriously what the fark is wrong with this guy?
 
2015-10-29 1:23:20 PM  
That seems like an awful lot of trouble just to get some cash and dog food donations for a greyhound rescue operation.
 
2015-10-29 1:24:10 PM  

8 inches: I went to a haunted (ware) house a few years ago that was so scary I almost had an enuerysm.  In fact, it was so bad my wife and I had to leave halfway through.   I've always been conflicted on this experience because on one hand, this was one of the very few times in my life where I feel I've gotten what I've paid for.  On the other hand, there really is no need to chase a man and his wife down a hallway with an actual chainsaw while tripping over severed heads and being doused with fake blood.

The scariest part of the whole experience?  We were in Fresno.


Even if it was real with a real blade (highly unlikely) you know going in that it's a show.  I'm curious to go to these just to see what the whole deal is.
 
2015-10-29 1:26:01 PM  
I once went to a haunted house where a scantly clad woman beat me for an hour. Cost me $200.
 
2015-10-29 1:26:13 PM  

busy chillin': I haven't been to a haunted house in years, but thinking they are literally going to harm/murder you with a gas seems a tad irrational.


It is easy to get caught up in the situation.  These are longer experiences with far more leeway for the actors to engage with the customers. Initially you may be able to think logically, but after an hour or two of that, doubts start creeping in and you can really get the experience that you thought you wanted.  If you want one of the most extreme experience, don't be surprised if it is very rough.  You got what you paid for.  There should definitely be a safe word given to end the experience:

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2015-10-29 1:26:35 PM  

busy chillin': I haven't been to a haunted house in years, but thinking they are literally going to harm/murder you with a gas seems a tad irrational.


Or sexually aroused
 
2015-10-29 1:29:15 PM  
Why would you trust these people they look like skeezos
 
2015-10-29 1:29:23 PM  
Yeah, what this guy does falls under consent violations.  So nope.  Not cool,  not ok.  Definitely a bdsm vibe without the fun.
 
2015-10-29 1:29:34 PM  
At the house, they are subjected to simulated drowning and suffocating, force-feeding, unwelcome haircuts and physically rough treatment.

the fiend!

also..  seriously you see the videos online and go.. hey.. thats for me..  and then go.. oh noes he did those things to me?
 
2015-10-29 1:29:40 PM  

Tchernobog: 8 inches: I went to a haunted (ware) house a few years ago that was so scary I almost had an enuerysm.  In fact, it was so bad my wife and I had to leave halfway through.   I've always been conflicted on this experience because on one hand, this was one of the very few times in my life where I feel I've gotten what I've paid for.  On the other hand, there really is no need to chase a man and his wife down a hallway with an actual chainsaw while tripping over severed heads and being doused with fake blood.

The scariest part of the whole experience?  We were in Fresno.

Can you explain why you were scared? You knew, objectively, that no real harm would come to you, so why run? I'm not trying to be snarky, I just don't understand.

As for TFA, it frankly sounds like psychological torture. But the people signed up for it. Don't get sour because you're not as hardcore as you thought you were.


It's hard to explain.  I'm not frightened by horror movies and have never been frightened by a haunted house before, but this was different.  I think it was primarily all of the misdirection that they did.

See a bloody person sitting in a chair?  Meh.  Zombies roaming around aimlessly?  Meh.  Have a guy with a chainsaw at the end of the hallway waiting for you, then disappear, then have a man with a chainsaw two seconds later pop out from behind a wall and chase you until the first chainsaw guy RE-APPEARS (meaning there are now two chainsaw people closing in on you in a dark hallway) while your wife falls down paralyzed like some sort of cliche horror movie...yeah, my head almost burst.
 
2015-10-29 1:29:47 PM  
It's really no different from BDSM. If there isn't a safeword or a kill switch of some sort then it isn't safe. Period.
 
2015-10-29 1:30:02 PM  

drjekel_mrhyde: busy chillin': I haven't been to a haunted house in years, but thinking they are literally going to harm/murder you with a gas seems a tad irrational.

Or sexually aroused


Getting chased by a guy with a chainsaw and a raging hard on does seem scary.
 
2015-10-29 1:31:11 PM  

jst3p: Tchernobog: Can you explain why you were scared? You knew, objectively, that no real harm would come to you, so why run? I'm not trying to be snarky, I just don't understand.

I don't get that either. Took my kid to a haunted maze couple weeks ago. I will admit they were able to startle me a couple times and they got my son a couple more times. But there was this 20somethnig woman in the group who flipped the flipped out, she actually clawed me a couple times trying to get a way from the staff, even clung to me, a complete stranger at one point. I think she peed her pants a little. wtf? You know they can't, in this case, even touch you. I am right there with you in not understanding it.


CSB time

I went to visit the Emerald Cave in Thailand...i went alone at dawn before any of the tourists trips would be there...i kayaked out, and halfway there realized i didn't know *exatly* which cavern i had to enter....i entered each one that looked promising and started realizing i could really easily get caught in a swell and get trapped or knocked unconscious as the cave ceilings were so low i had to lay down in my kayake to get through and the swells were pretty good raising me and lowering me 3 feet either way - oh i can't really swim either...when i finally found the right cave, about halfway through (still not certain i had the exact right cave), things turned 100% pitch black as I was warned would happen - i had no idea which way i was facing, or how low the ceiling might be - the ceiling being jagged pointy rocks...the ocean was rising and falling and swelling into the cavities of the cavern, blasting out air explosively in the darkness...the cave sounded like a godammn monster rising from the bowls of hell, and i could feel the panic rising within me...my brain was telling me that IT WAS A MONSTER COMING AND IT WAS GOING TO EAT ME! "  and I was thisclose to believing it.

So yea, you can be totally rational, knowing that the noises you are hearing and things you are seeing  are your imagination or not going to hurt you, but guess what, your lizard brain doesn't always get that message.

That is how panic works.
 
2015-10-29 1:33:05 PM  

asmodeus224: I went to visit the Emerald Cave in Thailand...i went alone at dawn before any of the tourists trips would be there...i kayaked out, and halfway there realized i didn't know *exatly* which cavern i had to enter....i entered each one that looked promising and started realizing i could really easily get caught in a swell and get trapped or knocked unconscious as the cave ceilings were so low i had to lay down in my kayake to get through and the swells were pretty good raising me and lowering me 3 feet either way - oh i can't really swim either..


Tip. If you're going to use a boat as your means of entertainment, learn how to swim well.
 
2015-10-29 1:33:51 PM  
Visitors meet the haunted house staff at a remote location, where they are blindfolded, bound and gagged and taken to the manor in a location unknown to them in a large blood-red red van.

At the house, they are subjected to simulated drowning and suffocating, force-feeding, unwelcome haircuts and physically rough treatment. Participants agree that they will not be released until McKamey gives his permission.


That's not a haunt attraction; that's a BDSM club. And it appears to be a very poorly run one with few safety controls. I don't see any reason for the town to give that idiocy a business permit.
 
2015-10-29 1:33:57 PM  
1) If you sign up for this unofficial psycho-show voluntarily, suck it up, Buttercup. You did it to yourself.

2) The two best haunted houses/mazes I've been to have been amateur productions. One by a large extended family through the woods on their farm, which was more a story telling experience, little horror vignettes acted out by family members, and the other was by high school kids as a fundraiser. Both were very well done. The high school kids had a mild version for the young ones, with cackling witches stirring cauldrons, stick your hands into the mystery boxes of icky stuff, and floating ghosts and such. The extreme version was farking terrifying. I jumped. A lot. Squealed a bit, too. Newsflash: high school kids make really convincing psychos.
 
2015-10-29 1:34:09 PM  

asmodeus224: jst3p: Tchernobog: Can you explain why you were scared? You knew, objectively, that no real harm would come to you, so why run? I'm not trying to be snarky, I just don't understand.

I don't get that either. Took my kid to a haunted maze couple weeks ago. I will admit they were able to startle me a couple times and they got my son a couple more times. But there was this 20somethnig woman in the group who flipped the flipped out, she actually clawed me a couple times trying to get a way from the staff, even clung to me, a complete stranger at one point. I think she peed her pants a little. wtf? You know they can't, in this case, even touch you. I am right there with you in not understanding it.

CSB time

I went to visit the Emerald Cave in Thailand...i went alone at dawn before any of the tourists trips would be there...i kayaked out, and halfway there realized i didn't know *exatly* which cavern i had to enter....i entered each one that looked promising and started realizing i could really easily get caught in a swell and get trapped or knocked unconscious as the cave ceilings were so low i had to lay down in my kayake to get through and the swells were pretty good raising me and lowering me 3 feet either way - oh i can't really swim either...when i finally found the right cave, about halfway through (still not certain i had the exact right cave), things turned 100% pitch black as I was warned would happen - i had no idea which way i was facing, or how low the ceiling might be - the ceiling being jagged pointy rocks...the ocean was rising and falling and swelling into the cavities of the cavern, blasting out air explosively in the darkness...the cave sounded like a godammn monster rising from the bowls of hell, and i could feel the panic rising within me...my brain was telling me that IT WAS A MONSTER COMING AND IT WAS GOING TO EAT ME! "  and I was thisclose to believing it.

So yea, you can be totally rational, knowing that the noises you are hearing and things yo ...


csb'd
 
2015-10-29 1:34:51 PM  

asmodeus224: So yea, you can be totally rational, knowing that the noises you are hearing and things you are seeing  are your imagination or not going to hurt you, but guess what, your lizard brain doesn't always get that message.

That is how panic works.


The difference is that you were actually in very real danger.
 
2015-10-29 1:35:50 PM  
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2015-10-29 1:36:08 PM  

LarryDan43: drjekel_mrhyde: busy chillin': I haven't been to a haunted house in years, but thinking they are literally going to harm/murder you with a gas seems a tad irrational.

Or sexually aroused

Getting chased by a guy with a chainsaw and a raging hard on does seem scary.


"How did you know he was a rapist?"
"When I seen a man chasing a woman down an alley with a butcher knife and a hardon I doubt he's collecting for the red cross"
 
2015-10-29 1:36:39 PM  

MugzyBrown: asmodeus224: I went to visit the Emerald Cave in Thailand...i went alone at dawn before any of the tourists trips would be there...i kayaked out, and halfway there realized i didn't know *exatly* which cavern i had to enter....i entered each one that looked promising and started realizing i could really easily get caught in a swell and get trapped or knocked unconscious as the cave ceilings were so low i had to lay down in my kayake to get through and the swells were pretty good raising me and lowering me 3 feet either way - oh i can't really swim either..

Tip. If you're going to use a boat as your means of entertainment, learn how to swim well.


oh look who is so helpful Mr Forethought and Proper Planning!

Swimming and flashlights are for pussies!
 
2015-10-29 1:36:50 PM  

namegoeshere: 1) If you sign up for this unofficial psycho-show voluntarily, suck it up, Buttercup. You did it to yourself.

2) The two best haunted houses/mazes I've been to have been amateur productions. One by a large extended family through the woods on their farm, which was more a story telling experience, little horror vignettes acted out by family members, and the other was by high school kids as a fundraiser. Both were very well done. The high school kids had a mild version for the young ones, with cackling witches stirring cauldrons, stick your hands into the mystery boxes of icky stuff, and floating ghosts and such. The extreme version was farking terrifying. I jumped. A lot. Squealed a bit, too. Newsflash: high school kids make really convincing psychos.


I've worked in a haunt attraction, and one of the industry-wide rules is very simple. You don't touch the guests, and they don't touch the actors. We often had to throw out drunks who got too caught up in the story and couldn't abide by that.
 
2015-10-29 1:37:04 PM  
I decided to watch one of the videos. It's sadism.
 
2015-10-29 1:37:14 PM  

H31N0US: asmodeus224: So yea, you can be totally rational, knowing that the noises you are hearing and things you are seeing  are your imagination or not going to hurt you, but guess what, your lizard brain doesn't always get that message.

That is how panic works.

The difference is that you were actually in very real danger.


That is what my brain said too!

Hush you
 
2015-10-29 1:38:40 PM  

jst3p: germ78:
/certainly not around Effingham, which is famous for a giant cross next to the interstate

Isn't it kinda weird that Christians are so into displaying crosses? I would think if he ever does come back that's the last thing he is going to want to see.


you should have to pay double for TF.
 
2015-10-29 1:39:28 PM  
This sounds like borderline BDSM kinda shiat. And for no money? i dunno man. It's a strange hobby. And what about his helpers, can you tell me they just whistle while they work and are fine with everything they are doing?

"Sorry Jimmy I gotta fire you, you actually killed that guy!"
 
2015-10-29 1:40:11 PM  

jst3p: Tchernobog: Can you explain why you were scared? You knew, objectively, that no real harm would come to you, so why run? I'm not trying to be snarky, I just don't understand.

I don't get that either. Took my kid to a haunted maze couple weeks ago. I will admit they were able to startle me a couple times and they got my son a couple more times. But there was this 20somethnig woman in the group who flipped the flipped out, she actually clawed me a couple times trying to get a way from the staff, even clung to me, a complete stranger at one point. I think she peed her pants a little. wtf? You know they can't, in this case, even touch you. I am right there with you in not understanding it.


We had nicknames for patrons who got too scared. Code Yellow was when they peed themselves, and Code Green was when they threw up. Had at least one Code Brown, too.
 
2015-10-29 1:42:35 PM  

asmodeus224: jst3p: Tchernobog: Can you explain why you were scared? You knew, objectively, that no real harm would come to you, so why run? I'm not trying to be snarky, I just don't understand.

I don't get that either. Took my kid to a haunted maze couple weeks ago. I will admit they were able to startle me a couple times and they got my son a couple more times. But there was this 20somethnig woman in the group who flipped the flipped out, she actually clawed me a couple times trying to get a way from the staff, even clung to me, a complete stranger at one point. I think she peed her pants a little. wtf? You know they can't, in this case, even touch you. I am right there with you in not understanding it.

CSB time

I went to visit the Emerald Cave in Thailand...i went alone at dawn before any of the tourists trips would be there...i kayaked out, and halfway there realized i didn't know *exatly* which cavern i had to enter....i entered each one that looked promising and started realizing i could really easily get caught in a swell and get trapped or knocked unconscious as the cave ceilings were so low i had to lay down in my kayake to get through and the swells were pretty good raising me and lowering me 3 feet either way - oh i can't really swim either...when i finally found the right cave, about halfway through (still not certain i had the exact right cave), things turned 100% pitch black as I was warned would happen - i had no idea which way i was facing, or how low the ceiling might be - the ceiling being jagged pointy rocks...the ocean was rising and falling and swelling into the cavities of the cavern, blasting out air explosively in the darkness...the cave sounded like a godammn monster rising from the bowls of hell, and i could feel the panic rising within me...my brain was telling me that IT WAS A MONSTER COMING AND IT WAS GOING TO EAT ME! "  and I was thisclose to believing it.

So yea, you can be totally rational, knowing that the noises you are hearing and things yo ...


wtf? Solo kayaking in unfamiliar caves and not knowing how to swim? No offense but that sounds really really stupid.
 
2015-10-29 1:43:24 PM  

sinko swimo: jst3p: germ78:
/certainly not around Effingham, which is famous for a giant cross next to the interstate

Isn't it kinda weird that Christians are so into displaying crosses? I would think if he ever does come back that's the last thing he is going to want to see.

you should have to pay double for TF.


I have never paid or it, but I am not sure I understand what you are saying. It appears to be some form of insult.
 
2015-10-29 1:44:12 PM  

LazyMedia: jst3p: Tchernobog: Can you explain why you were scared? You knew, objectively, that no real harm would come to you, so why run? I'm not trying to be snarky, I just don't understand.

I don't get that either. Took my kid to a haunted maze couple weeks ago. I will admit they were able to startle me a couple times and they got my son a couple more times. But there was this 20somethnig woman in the group who flipped the flipped out, she actually clawed me a couple times trying to get a way from the staff, even clung to me, a complete stranger at one point. I think she peed her pants a little. wtf? You know they can't, in this case, even touch you. I am right there with you in not understanding it.

We had nicknames for patrons who got too scared. Code Yellow was when they peed themselves, and Code Green was when they threw up. Had at least one Code Brown, too.


I will say I really enjoyed the costumes, the acting, and the sets. This one was very well done.
 
2015-10-29 1:45:17 PM  

busy chillin': I haven't been to a haunted house in years, but thinking they are literally going to harm/murder you with a gas seems a tad irrational.


Stay gassy, San Diego.
 
2015-10-29 1:45:33 PM  
Idiots, both sides.
 
2015-10-29 1:46:40 PM  
I've got family in McLeansboro. Considering the size of the town, I would have to guess they have heard of this.

To give an idea of the size of McLeansboro, it was a really big deal when they got a McDonalds in town.
 
2015-10-29 1:48:06 PM  

jst3p: wtf? Solo kayaking in unfamiliar caves and not knowing how to swim? No offense but that sounds really really stupid


Oh no, no offense at all...you are right...I don't generally index 'stupidest things I have done' but yea, that is a top 3...could be #1, but i am sure there is a few worse things.  I will say when I got through I felt a great appreciation for life and living...I really thought I was a goner.  I didn't even check tide tables.  Like, did the cave totally fill up at some point - maybe while I was spinning around in the dark?  I didn't know...sheesh.
 
2015-10-29 1:50:15 PM  
I'll just flat-out say this is sick.. I can't picture anyone who would actually want to go through an abduction, being restrained and tortured.. and pay for the experience.

After a very short time, I don't think I'd be afraid.. I'd be too deep into a full-blown, PTSD fugue to notice much of anything until I calm down.. then there'd be a police report, either for what I managed to do, or what they felt the need to do to me to get me to stop.

No thanks.
 
2015-10-29 1:52:48 PM  
Can he get a do-over?
 
2015-10-29 1:52:59 PM  

0z79: I'll just flat-out say this is sick.. I can't picture anyone who would actually want to go through an abduction, being restrained and tortured.. and pay for the experience.

After a very short time, I don't think I'd be afraid.. I'd be too deep into a full-blown, PTSD fugue to notice much of anything until I calm down.. then there'd be a police report, either for what I managed to do, or what they felt the need to do to me to get me to stop.

No thanks.


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