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(WISN Milwaukee)   It's not officially back to school time until Beloit College releases its annual "Mindset List" of things the newest college class has always/never had. This year, they've always had Google, South Park, and a National Championship Game   (wisn.com) divider line
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2015-09-01 10:26:23 AM  
When I was in radio, in a university town, we passed this to all the older air staff so they could "relate" to the youngsters. Pretty handy
 
2015-09-01 10:29:11 AM  

vudukungfu: None of you know hoe to survive with out your precious little devices.


In 2010-2011 I went about a year without a smartphone, despite being in the middle of a 24/7 assignment. Not having that Blackberry light flashing at me in the middle of the night was a relief.

/luckily I was already awake when the tsunami hit Japan
 
2015-09-01 10:32:41 AM  

shpritz: FTA:
23. Kyoto has always symbolized inactivity about global climate change.

[images1.westword.com image 200x200]

Still remembers when it was Rio.


sure, blame it on Rio
 
2015-09-01 10:36:59 AM  
Yesterday my son in law informed me he had never heard an LP on a record player.

God damn I'm old.
 
2015-09-01 10:39:52 AM  

Arkham: holy fark does this make me feel old. I was in college when the first south park was made.


I was too

and for a few weeks during the 2nd season, I was in air force tech school

Wednesday nights in the dayroom included food from places that delivered on post (Chinese, pizza, kfc), and south park. I still remember the shock and awe of the t&p episode, when we were SUPPOSED to be finding out who cartman's dad was!
 
2015-09-01 10:46:14 AM  
#28 - is there an effort to identify the pre-Viet Nam unknowns entombed at Arlington?
 
2015-09-01 10:49:52 AM  

T-Servo: vudukungfu: None of you know hoe to survive with out your precious little devices.

In 2010-2011 I went about a year without a smartphone, despite being in the middle of a 24/7 assignment. Not having that Blackberry light flashing at me in the middle of the night was a relief.

/luckily I was already awake when the tsunami hit Japan


Adding to this, in some job fields a smartphone is quite honestly becoming necessary...my contract is up and I have considered pulling the plug, but people are so demanding these days that they don't want to wait for you to get back to your computer to email a reply.

Having access to the Internet for information is also quite helpful when traveling for my job. Yeah, I have lived without it, but it comes in handy very frequently.

Then there's texting, which I don't care for, but it isn't acceptable for me to be unable to receive texts from the office (we are a small company). All this in addition to phone and voice mail.

In short, because so many other people have one, I "have" to have one. Might be different with a desk job, but that isn't my shtick.

/freelancers gonna freelance
 
2015-09-01 10:53:03 AM  

Rapmaster2000: Charlton Heston is recognized for waving a rifle over his head as much as for waving his staff over the Red Sea.

Do people under 30 even recognize who Charlton Heston is?


no
the people starting college this year haven't a clue who he is
the "cold dead hands" speech was in may 2000. over 15 years ago.
 
2015-09-01 10:55:23 AM  

PleaseHamletDon'tHurtEm: Having access to the Internet for information is also quite helpful when traveling for my job. Yeah, I have lived without it, but it comes in handy very frequently.


I resisted getting a smartphone for a long time, knowing that I'd instantly be hooked.  But honestly, on business travel I feel this pinch to still be completely "on" w/r/t email responses.  It would help if the cell service didn't suck so terribly at our two primary labs, and cell phones weren't forbidden at two of the others that I visit.
 
2015-09-01 10:58:24 AM  
it's = it is.

Was I firstest?
 
2015-09-01 11:00:06 AM  

VPI-NAVY: Beloit College releases it's annual "Mindset List"

*its


Was I 2nd?
 
2015-09-01 11:07:09 AM  
That list did not seem as surprising as some previous lists.   Maybe a lot of references just haven't changed in the last 18 years?


Is there a collection of each years list?  How long has the college been making the list?
 
2015-09-01 11:09:05 AM  

ZAZ: holy fark does this make me feel old. I was in college when the first south park was made.

I was in college when the first Simpsons was made.


abe vigoda, is that you?

yakmans_dad: This text is now purple: yakmans_dad: No technological change that I've experienced in over 60 years has been more than incremental.

1955 is pre-space age. It's also pre-internet and pre-integrated circuit. Those were pretty revolutionary.

[img.fark.net image 210x240]
[img.fark.net image 280x180]

Computers existed prior to the IC. Dr. Crippen was captured by the telegraph.


my 5 year old son and I watched "trip to the moon" a few weeks ago. I think he liked it even more than I did
 
2015-09-01 11:10:49 AM  

Bob Down: Google - nope not always been there, but sadly always there now. In your pages, phone, street, sky, anus.


Tickle tickle tickle!
 
2015-09-01 11:12:32 AM  

PleaseHamletDon'tHurtEm: in some job fields a smartphone is quite honestly becoming necessary.


Yeah, I told them if you want to contact me 24/7. you're paying me hourly 24/7.
And buying the phone and unlimited data.

Now, want to budget that?
Or find some other wage slave?
 
2015-09-01 11:15:15 AM  

H31N0US: Want to feel real old? In a mere 4 years, there will never have been twin towers in lower Manhattan. In two years after that, there will always have been US troops deployed in active combat in the Middle East.


Laugh it up, my kid just started high school. It has always been a post-9/11 world.
 
2015-09-01 11:16:16 AM  
1) Released about two weeks ago.
2) Numbers 30 and 43 are not quite true; I suspect they meant "pets" for #43.
 
2015-09-01 11:23:59 AM  

vudukungfu: PleaseHamletDon'tHurtEm: in some job fields a smartphone is quite honestly becoming necessary.

Yeah, I told them if you want to contact me 24/7. you're paying me hourly 24/7.
And buying the phone and unlimited data.

Now, want to budget that?
Or find some other wage slave?


Did you get the job?
 
2015-09-01 11:26:09 AM  

vudukungfu: PleaseHamletDon'tHurtEm: in some job fields a smartphone is quite honestly becoming necessary.

Yeah, I told them if you want to contact me 24/7. you're paying me hourly 24/7.
And buying the phone and unlimited data.

Now, want to budget that?
Or find some other wage slave?


Fortunately, nobody calls after-hours.  They even (mostly) leave me alone on vacations.  Hence no desire right now to go elsewhere.

And I asked the tax lady about writing the phone bill off...no can do according to her because it's not "required" by our company.

Though, maybe I can finagle the boss into listing it as a "requirement" so that we can write it off...hmm.
 
2015-09-01 11:27:50 AM  

Monkeyhouse Zendo: I watched my kid try to figure out how to operate a rotary phone a few months ago. She kept pushing the numbers under the dial and was getting increasingly frustrated and angry with me for laughing. She really didn't like it when I told her to remember the experience the next time she felt like laughing at someone struggling with new technology.


Soon after the invention of the telephone, some visionary predicted that, "In the future, there will be a telephone in every city and town."
 
2015-09-01 11:28:22 AM  

pdieten: H31N0US: Want to feel real old? In a mere 4 years, there will never have been twin towers in lower Manhattan. In two years after that, there will always have been US troops deployed in active combat in the Middle East.

Laugh it up, my kid just started high school. It has always been a post-9/11 world.


same here
 
2015-09-01 11:28:47 AM  

Uzzah: H31N0US: Want to feel real old? In a mere 4 years, there will never have been twin towers in lower Manhattan. In two years after that, there will always have been US troops deployed in active combat in the Middle East.

This year's incoming freshmen will be the last that can have even the slightest personal recollection of the events of 9/11 -- they were 4 years old at the time.


Even then, I was in 5th grade and my sister was in 2nd.

Our "personal recollection" is:

* Mom called the school and told us to get on the bus home
* We got a little note talking about "today's tragedy" or similar "Don't let the kiddies know what happened" wording.
* There were no contrails in the sky.
* At THAT point, we get home about 3:30 in the afternoon, and turn to the local news channels.

Now it sounds like the middle schoolers got to watch the whole thing live because their teachers just turned the classroom TV's to CNN, but at our level, we were pretty detached.
 
2015-09-01 11:30:36 AM  

PleaseHamletDon'tHurtEm: Adding to this, in some job fields a smartphone is quite honestly becoming necessary...my contract is up and I have considered pulling the plug, but people are so demanding these days that they don't want to wait for you to get back to your computer to email a reply.


The greatest thing that ever happened was the day that Stagefright happened.

Because they blocked all devices from the network, and still haven't let us back on.
 
2015-09-01 11:32:41 AM  

Not_The_Target_Market: Mindset includes unawareness/indifference towards possessive pronouns....

("... it's annual ...")


Yeah. I couldn't get past the first 10 or 12 because of that. At least try to proofread! Make SOME effort.

\old and crabby
 
2015-09-01 11:42:03 AM  

ipxodi: That list did not seem as surprising as some previous lists.   Maybe a lot of references just haven't changed in the last 18 years?


Is there a collection of each years list?  How long has the college been making the list?


Number 50 on the list might be a clue.
 
2015-09-01 11:45:31 AM  

meyerkev: PleaseHamletDon'tHurtEm: Adding to this, in some job fields a smartphone is quite honestly becoming necessary...my contract is up and I have considered pulling the plug, but people are so demanding these days that they don't want to wait for you to get back to your computer to email a reply.

The greatest thing that ever happened was the day that Stagefright happened.

Because they blocked all devices from the network, and still haven't let us back on.


Huh.  Hadn't heard of that bug.
 
2015-09-01 11:45:48 AM  

tiamet4: Not_The_Target_Market: Mindset includes unawareness/indifference towards possessive pronouns....

("... it's annual ...")

Yeah. I couldn't get past the first 10 or 12 because of that. At least try to proofread! Make SOME effort.

\old and crabby


...and I bet they refer to a graduate as an "alumni" (singular), too.
 
2015-09-01 11:50:35 AM  

TommyDeuce: ipxodi: That list did not seem as surprising as some previous lists.   Maybe a lot of references just haven't changed in the last 18 years?


Is there a collection of each years list?  How long has the college been making the list?

Number 50 on the list might be a clue.


I suspect the reply will include tl;dr
 
2015-09-01 11:53:55 AM  

meyerkev: Uzzah: H31N0US: Want to feel real old? In a mere 4 years, there will never have been twin towers in lower Manhattan. In two years after that, there will always have been US troops deployed in active combat in the Middle East.

This year's incoming freshmen will be the last that can have even the slightest personal recollection of the events of 9/11 -- they were 4 years old at the time.

Even then, I was in 5th grade and my sister was in 2nd.

Our "personal recollection" is:

* Mom called the school and told us to get on the bus home
* We got a little note talking about "today's tragedy" or similar "Don't let the kiddies know what happened" wording.
* There were no contrails in the sky.
* At THAT point, we get home about 3:30 in the afternoon, and turn to the local news channels.

Now it sounds like the middle schoolers got to watch the whole thing live because their teachers just turned the classroom TV's to CNN, but at our level, we were pretty detached.


Last year of high school.  I was seventeen.  Homeroom class, right about 8:45 in the morning, so about an hour after it happened (Central time).  I remember who came in with the announcement, where I was sitting, what I was wearing.  Then the old box TV came on, and that's pretty much all we did that day.  Or week, for that matter, it was such a massive thing.  The smoke plumes went on for days and days.  Nobody knew what the hell was going on, neither us kids, nor the adults in authority over us, nor the people supposedly leading the country.  When you don't know who to turn to for answers, things get scary real quick.

It's probably a good thing every day is not that vivid.
 
2015-09-01 11:56:30 AM  
In a couple of years, there will have always been an American in orbit. That's pretty cool. Sure, we haven't been to the moon in a long time, but we haven't left space in over a decade.
 
2015-09-01 12:06:55 PM  

Arkham: holy fark does this make me feel old. I was in college when the first south park was made.


I work with high schoolers, so I have a little exercise I do to constantly remind myself of how old I am: I graduated HS in '85, which means my high school experience is as relevant to today's seniors as a 1955 graduate's experience was to me.

Not, in other words, at all.
 
2015-09-01 12:15:22 PM  

T-Servo: [img.fark.net image 300x248]


This
 
2015-09-01 12:17:39 PM  

meyerkev: Uzzah: H31N0US: Want to feel real old? In a mere 4 years, there will never have been twin towers in lower Manhattan. In two years after that, there will always have been US troops deployed in active combat in the Middle East.

This year's incoming freshmen will be the last that can have even the slightest personal recollection of the events of 9/11 -- they were 4 years old at the time.

Even then, I was in 5th grade and my sister was in 2nd.

Our "personal recollection" is:

* Mom called the school and told us to get on the bus home
* We got a little note talking about "today's tragedy" or similar "Don't let the kiddies know what happened" wording.
* There were no contrails in the sky.
* At THAT point, we get home about 3:30 in the afternoon, and turn to the local news channels.

Now it sounds like the middle schoolers got to watch the whole thing live because their teachers just turned the classroom TV's to CNN, but at our level, we were pretty detached.


I was 20.

One of my coworkers had a second job as an aide to developmentally-delayed kids, and the school was under strict instructions not to mention ANYTHING that had happened that day.  She didn't have a clue what was going on until she got to her second job that evening.
 
2015-09-01 12:17:42 PM  

I_Can't_Believe_it's_not_Boutros: Arkham: holy fark does this make me feel old. I was in college when the first south park was made.

I work with high schoolers, so I have a little exercise I do to constantly remind myself of how old I am: I graduated HS in '85, which means my high school experience is as relevant to today's seniors as a 1955 graduate's experience was to me.

Not, in other words, at all.


There's a Back to the Future joke to be made with those dates, but then I realize that 2015 is "the future" of BTTF, and feel old, and angry that we don't have hover boards.
 
2015-09-01 12:34:44 PM  

Dead for Tax Reasons: 15. The airport in Washington, D.C., has always been Reagan National Airport.

they moved the airport into dc?  when did that happen?


Needed to get it closer to the White House so Reagan didn't forget where he was going on the way there.

/Reagan nap
 
2015-09-01 12:39:10 PM  

bungle_jr: pdieten: H31N0US: Want to feel real old? In a mere 4 years, there will never have been twin towers in lower Manhattan. In two years after that, there will always have been US troops deployed in active combat in the Middle East.

Laugh it up, my kid just started high school. It has always been a post-9/11 world.

same here


Going to be 3rd on this one.  Kid was born 2 weeks after.
 
2015-09-01 12:50:55 PM  
meyerkev:
Now it sounds like the middle schoolers got to watch the whole thing live because their teachers just turned the classroom TV's to CNN, but at our level, we were pretty detached.

Sounds like me and the Kennedy assassination. We got called to the auditorium and told the school day was being suspended and we should get on the bus or walk home. Me and my pal Patrick looked at each other and said "So, we're gonna miss lunch?"

/tough crowd
 
2015-09-01 12:55:11 PM  

Prof. Frink: Dead for Tax Reasons: 15. The airport in Washington, D.C., has always been Reagan National Airport.

they moved the airport into dc?  when did that happen?

Needed to get it closer to the White House so Reagan didn't forget where he was going on the way there.

/Reagan nap


didn't need to waste as many jelly beans in leaving a trail to know how to get back too
 
2015-09-01 1:01:20 PM  

ipxodi: Is there a collection of each years list? How long has the college been making the list?


Yes.

https://www.beloit.edu/mindset/previouslists/

And they edited 43 from this year's list.  Perhaps they read Fark:

43. Humans have always had the ability to use implanted radio frequency ID chips-slightly larger than a grain of rice.
 
2015-09-01 1:21:05 PM  

OldManDownDRoad: meyerkev:
Now it sounds like the middle schoolers got to watch the whole thing live because their teachers just turned the classroom TV's to CNN, but at our level, we were pretty detached.

Sounds like me and the Kennedy assassination. We got called to the auditorium and told the school day was being suspended and we should get on the bus or walk home. Me and my pal Patrick looked at each other and said "So, we're gonna miss lunch?"

/tough crowd


I was just barely 4 when Kennedy was assassinated and I don't remember a thing. My older brother says he remembers my mother crying. For me the big "where were you when" event would be the Apollo 11 landing on the moon.

I got my first e-mail account just a few months before the space shuttle Challenger blew up.
 
2015-09-01 1:45:06 PM  

Inflatable Rhetoric: Did you get the job?


here now.
 
2015-09-01 1:47:22 PM  
Oddly enough, this looked like me just this week ...

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Damn kids!
 
2015-09-01 1:49:06 PM  
They never knew Bryant Gumbel on the Today show

They were never on the planet with Gene Roddenberry (alive or ashes)

Never got to hear Sinatra Live

Never got to shop at Woolworth's
 
2015-09-01 2:08:13 PM  

I_Can't_Believe_it's_not_Boutros: Arkham: holy fark does this make me feel old. I was in college when the first south park was made.

I work with high schoolers, so I have a little exercise I do to constantly remind myself of how old I am: I graduated HS in '85, which means my high school experience is as relevant to today's seniors as a 1955 graduate's experience was to me.

Not, in other words, at all.


Class of '86 here. I'm still freaked out when I see music & technology from the '80 as labeled "classic" and/or "vintage"...

It doesn't feel that long ago...and  the older I get, the faster time seems to pass.   :-(
 
2015-09-01 3:20:30 PM  

vudukungfu: None of you know hoe to survive with out your precious little devices.


And apparently you don't know how to survive without spell correct.

/I survived pretty well long before having a cellphone, I'm sure other young people can do the same
 
2015-09-01 3:25:09 PM  

IlGreven: serial_crusher: Teachers have always had to insist that term papers employ sources in addition to those found online.

That's still a thing?  Are they just patronizing the last of the ancient librarians until they die off?

/ My dogs name is Dewie. I always say, "like the decimal system", but kids these days have no idea what I'm talking about.
// yes I know the decimal system is spelled Dewey. They're pronounced the same though.

It's DOY!

/The class of 2026 will get that.
//You farkers, not so much unless you were fond of a certain '90s show and decided to see what they're up to now...


---I loved that episode, I hope Doy shows up again on GMW.

As a teen of the 80's that was interested in history & politics, #42 is pretty amazing:

42. Poland, Hungary, and the Czech Republic have always been members of NATO.
 
2015-09-01 4:07:17 PM  
43. Humans have always had implanted radio frequency ID chips, slightly larger than a grain of rice.
......wait....what!?!?
 
2015-09-01 4:53:11 PM  

meyerkev: Uzzah: H31N0US: Want to feel real old? In a mere 4 years, there will never have been twin towers in lower Manhattan. In two years after that, there will always have been US troops deployed in active combat in the Middle East.

This year's incoming freshmen will be the last that can have even the slightest personal recollection of the events of 9/11 -- they were 4 years old at the time.

Even then, I was in 5th grade and my sister was in 2nd.

Our "personal recollection" is:

* Mom called the school and told us to get on the bus home
* We got a little note talking about "today's tragedy" or similar "Don't let the kiddies know what happened" wording.
* There were no contrails in the sky.
* At THAT point, we get home about 3:30 in the afternoon, and turn to the local news channels.

Now it sounds like the middle schoolers got to watch the whole thing live because their teachers just turned the classroom TV's to CNN, but at our level, we were pretty detached.


I remember watching the OJ verdict in my freshman spanish class. I still dont understand what educational value that held.
 
2015-09-01 4:55:43 PM  

steve_wmn: OldManDownDRoad: meyerkev:
Now it sounds like the middle schoolers got to watch the whole thing live because their teachers just turned the classroom TV's to CNN, but at our level, we were pretty detached.

Sounds like me and the Kennedy assassination. We got called to the auditorium and told the school day was being suspended and we should get on the bus or walk home. Me and my pal Patrick looked at each other and said "So, we're gonna miss lunch?"

/tough crowd

I was just barely 4 when Kennedy was assassinated and I don't remember a thing. My older brother says he remembers my mother crying. For me the big "where were you when" event would be the Apollo 11 landing on the moon.



My sister was 5-1/2 when JFK bought it.  She said all the afternoon cartoons on TV were pre-empted.
My "WWYW?" event was also probably the moon landing, but I also remember when MLK was assassinated,
I was really confused, because he was one of the good guys, and that wasn't supposed to happen. (I was about
5-1/2 then).
 
2015-09-01 5:22:35 PM  
Aaaaaw, crap. When did i get old.

/Get off the phone, I'm on the internet
//9600 baud sure is fast.
 
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