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2015-08-02 7:33:34 PM  
What a Koch.
 
2015-08-02 7:40:42 PM  
F*ck you Koch. If it weren't for sh*tstains like you and your ilk we wouldn't NEED as many regulations.

/go play concern troll with people stupid enough to believe you're doing it for our good
//and may I reiterate: F*CK YOU
 
2015-08-02 7:41:57 PM  
TFA: "Koch told 450 wealthy conservatives "

All you need to know about whose interest is being served is right there
 
2015-08-02 7:57:52 PM  
FTFA: "If we cannot unite the majority of Americans behind the vision, then we're done for," he added. "So that, to me, has to be our number one objective. But to do so, we've got to do a much better job of understanding what matters most to people and then to demonstrate that a free society gives them the best opportunity of achieving that."

I am going to be presumptuous and say financial, medical, and housing security.

Now please tell us how minimum wage is too high and a health care system almost entirely comprised of for-profit players is going to help us achieve these things.
 
2015-08-02 8:06:51 PM  
" "History demonstrates that when the American people get motivated by an issue of justice that they believe is just, extraordinary things can be accomplished," Koch told 450 wealthy conservatives assembled in the ballroom of a lavish oceanfront resort here.

"Look at the American revolution, the anti-slavery movement, the women's suffrage movement, the civil rights movement,"  "


Yes, all 3 of those movements began at lavish resorts. And remember the Underground Railroad? They went from Hilton to Hilton to freedom.
 
2015-08-02 8:09:41 PM  
Now that you mention it, your efforts are reminiscent of the civil rights movement.  But I hate to break it to you Charles, you're the modern counterpart to George Wallace, Bull Connor and their ilk, fighting to protect the vested interests of the powerful.
 
2015-08-02 8:14:06 PM  
He's right, as anyone who tries to start a business knows.
 
2015-08-02 8:16:38 PM  

thorpe: " "History demonstrates that when the American people get motivated by an issue of justice that they believe is just, extraordinary things can be accomplished," Koch told 450 wealthy conservatives assembled in the ballroom of a lavish oceanfront resort here.

"Look at the American revolution, the anti-slavery movement, the women's suffrage movement, the civil rights movement,"  "

Yes, all 3 of those movements began at lavish resorts. And remember the Underground Railroad? They went from Hilton to Hilton to freedom.


The American revolution was begun by wealthy people who wanted to keep more of it.
 
2015-08-02 9:17:43 PM  

RobertBruce: thorpe: " "History demonstrates that when the American people get motivated by an issue of justice that they believe is just, extraordinary things can be accomplished," Koch told 450 wealthy conservatives assembled in the ballroom of a lavish oceanfront resort here.

"Look at the American revolution, the anti-slavery movement, the women's suffrage movement, the civil rights movement,"  "

Yes, all 3 of those movements began at lavish resorts. And remember the Underground Railroad? They went from Hilton to Hilton to freedom.

The American revolution was begun by wealthy people who wanted to keep more of it.


Not really.  The wealthy were quite divided between loyalists and patriots, we just leave the loyalists out of the high school history books.
 
2015-08-02 9:58:40 PM  
Won't someone think of all those downtrodden billionaires?!?
 
2015-08-02 10:18:21 PM  
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2015-08-02 10:25:07 PM  
You and your ilk can't die off fast enough, old fossil.
 
2015-08-02 10:25:52 PM  
"What we've been doing in the past is not sufficient," Koch added. "We are going to have to raise our efforts to the next level."

So, all the skull farkery we've seen from the Kochs up until now is just a warm up. The real fun is going to start now.

*shudder*
 
2015-08-02 10:26:56 PM  

stan unusual: RobertBruce: thorpe: " "History demonstrates that when the American people get motivated by an issue of justice that they believe is just, extraordinary things can be accomplished," Koch told 450 wealthy conservatives assembled in the ballroom of a lavish oceanfront resort here.

"Look at the American revolution, the anti-slavery movement, the women's suffrage movement, the civil rights movement,"  "

Yes, all 3 of those movements began at lavish resorts. And remember the Underground Railroad? They went from Hilton to Hilton to freedom.

The American revolution was begun by wealthy people who wanted to keep more of it.

Not really.  The wealthy were quite divided between loyalists and patriots, we just leave the loyalists out of the high school history books.


You didn't refute his point.  He said "started by wealthy people", not "started by all wealthy people" or even "the wealthy people", so he never claimed that every colonial with 3 shilling to rub together were patriots, just that the set of "people agitating for revolution" fit within the set of "not-poor colonials".
 
2015-08-02 10:31:58 PM  
As some Farker said in a different thread: "I want YOU to have freedom so *I* can do what I want."
 
2015-08-02 10:32:26 PM  

Laughing Budda: "What we've been doing in the past is not sufficient," Koch added. "We are going to have to raise our efforts to the next level."

So, all the skull farkery we've seen from the Kochs up until now is just a warm up. The real fun is going to start now.

*shudder*


Which means Kansas is too libral-socialist-hippie for his liking.

Charles Koch: "We shall rape on the beaches, we shall rape on the landing grounds, we shall rape in the fields and in the streets, we shall rape in the hills; we shall never surrender,"
 
2015-08-02 10:34:32 PM  
As part of the program, which was not open to the news media, officials from Chile gave presentations on the country's economic and political history.

They literally want us to be like Pinochet's Chile.  I can't wait to hear the Koch-defenders try and explain away that one.
 
2015-08-02 10:35:29 PM  
FTA: "History demonstrates that when the American people get motivated by an issue of justice that they believe is just, extraordinary things can be accomplished," Koch told 450 wealthy conservatives assembled in the ballroom of a lavish oceanfront resort here.

When Charles Koch used the word "justice", the 450 wealthy conservatives automatically translated the word to "JUST US".
 
2015-08-02 10:35:51 PM  
If you told me five years ago Rupert Murdoch wouldn't be a big deal and American politics would instead be overrun by two douchebags from Kansas I wouldn't believe it.
 
2015-08-02 10:37:12 PM  
Regulations aren't a farking 'injustice', let alone even CLOSE to being comparable to the civil rights movements. Regulations are what PREVENT the sort of injustices we saw during the Industrial Revolution, and through a huge chunk of the 20th century. Hell, it's not hard, even today, to find corporations causing havoc in places without regulations.

Charles Koch, like his brother and the rest of their greedy, parasitic ilk, is a piece of shiat.
 
2015-08-02 10:38:06 PM  
So according to Republican logic, billionaires like Koch face the same struggles as African Americans who were beaten or doused by fire hoses for daring to consider themselves equal. Just when I think Conservatives can't disgust me any more, they rise to the challenge
 
2015-08-02 10:38:08 PM  

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Christ, was he really a Bircher?  That would explain a helluva lot.


Dude.

His father was one of the farking founding members.
 
2015-08-02 10:41:17 PM  
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2015-08-02 10:43:09 PM  
If you're gonna lie, lie big.
 
2015-08-02 10:43:52 PM  

The Why Not Guy: So according to Republican logic, billionaires like Koch face the same struggles as African Americans who were beaten or doused by fire hoses for daring to consider themselves equal. Just when I think Conservatives can't disgust me any more, they rise to the challenge


Guy is a Libertarian.  What did you expect?
 
2015-08-02 10:46:13 PM  

The Why Not Guy: So according to Republican logic, billionaires like Koch face the same struggles as African Americans who were beaten or doused by fire hoses for daring to consider themselves equal. Just when I think Conservatives can't disgust me any more, they rise to the challenge


During the Civil War the southern aristocracy were the REAL victims because they had their property forcibly emancipated by the government.
 
2015-08-02 10:46:22 PM  
Let me know when he's ready to sacrifice his life for his version of "freedom"
 
2015-08-02 10:48:50 PM  
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2015-08-02 10:49:43 PM  

Lost Thought 00: Let me know when he's ready to sacrifice his life for his version of "freedom"


At that wealth level you don't die in war. You send some poor sap to die in your place.
 
2015-08-02 10:49:52 PM  

thorpe: " "History demonstrates that when the American people get motivated by an issue of justice that they believe is just, extraordinary things can be accomplished," Koch told 450 wealthy conservatives assembled in the ballroom of a lavish oceanfront resort here.

"Look at the American revolution, the anti-slavery movement, the women's suffrage movement, the civil rights movement,"  "

Yes, all 3 of those movements began at lavish resorts. And remember the Underground Railroad? They went from Hilton to Hilton to freedom.


Actually the abolitionist and woman suffrage movements were generally upper middleclass and wealthy in their origins..
 
2015-08-02 10:50:02 PM  

Mentat: As part of the program, which was not open to the news media, officials from Chile gave presentations on the country's economic and political history.

They literally want us to be like Pinochet's Chile.  I can't wait to hear the Koch-defenders try and explain away that one.



None dare call it fascism.
 
2015-08-02 10:51:15 PM  
Koch's remarks came at the start of a session about the strategy of the network, which aims to spend $889 million on issue advocacy, higher education grants and political activity by the end of next year.

Well, not a cent of this will directly help the poor.  All going to the right wing noise chamber.  There is never enough money for this movement.  I wonder if the UW system will get some of those higher education grants per Scott Walker.
 
2015-08-02 10:55:07 PM  

stan unusual: RobertBruce: thorpe: " "History demonstrates that when the American people get motivated by an issue of justice that they believe is just, extraordinary things can be accomplished," Koch told 450 wealthy conservatives assembled in the ballroom of a lavish oceanfront resort here.

"Look at the American revolution, the anti-slavery movement, the women's suffrage movement, the civil rights movement,"  "

Yes, all 3 of those movements began at lavish resorts. And remember the Underground Railroad? They went from Hilton to Hilton to freedom.

The American revolution was begun by wealthy people who wanted to keep more of it.

Not really.  The wealthy were quite divided between loyalists and patriots, we just leave the loyalists out of the high school history books.


The Boston Tea Party was a revolt against monopolization as well as taxes that were too low on British big business.

Occupy Wall Street was truer to the spirit of the Boston Tea Party than the teabaggers ever will be.
 
2015-08-02 11:15:57 PM  
Well corporations  are people so I can see why he'd say something like that.
 
2015-08-02 11:16:35 PM  
The Civil Rights movement was a campaign for MORE government regulation.  It was all about intrusive government regulation to root out racism in the private and public sectors.
 
2015-08-02 11:17:53 PM  
If only we could get the poors to understand that only by letting us poison their water and food, pay them slave wages to work in unreasonably unsafe working conditions, and letting us slough off the nations tax burden onto them exclusively... can they truly be able to grasp those bootstraps and ascend to the Real American way of life.
 
2015-08-02 11:19:12 PM  

The Why Not Guy: So according to Republican logic, billionaires like Koch face the same struggles as African Americans who were beaten or doused by fire hoses for daring to consider themselves equal. Just when I think Conservatives can't disgust me any more, they rise to the challenge


Hey, I have nothing against corporations, but I wouldn't want one marrying my daughter.
 
2015-08-02 11:22:02 PM  

Mentat: As part of the program, which was not open to the news media, officials from Chile gave presentations on the country's economic and political history.

They literally want us to be like Pinochet's Chile.  I can't wait to hear the Koch-defenders try and explain away that one.


There's at least one Farker who thinks Pinochet was just peachy. I won't name him but the direct quote was "America could use a guy like Pinochet in charge here"
 
2015-08-02 11:22:10 PM  
"Look at the American revolution, the anti-slavery movement, the women's suffrage movement, the civil rights movement," he said. "All of these struck a moral chord with the American people. They all sought to overcome an injustice. And we, too, are seeking to right injustices that are holding our country back."

Interesting. I didn't know he was quite that far out there. I just figured he was anti-government because of taxes and shiat, not because he was batshiat insane. It sounds like he wants to take an issue like civil rights, and then attach a bunch of tax cuts to it? Like, "we'll reform the criminal justice system, but us rich folk are gonna need a little taste too" or "we'll release a bunch of black guys from jail, but they're gonna have to agree to work for a company who doesn't have to pay them more than $3 an hour for the amount of time that was left on their sentence, and at the end of that time, the company has an option to buy.
 
2015-08-02 11:23:25 PM  
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2015-08-02 11:23:56 PM  
Not at all surprising that they see themselves as moral crusaders.
 
2015-08-02 11:28:10 PM  
Well, he will be OK in his walled guarded compound while the world burns.
 
2015-08-02 11:34:35 PM  

RobertBruce: He's right, as anyone who tries to start a business knows.


Trying to start a business.Trying to start a business. Are you trying to start a business? Why don't you stop trying, and just start a business. Then you will see that the deregulation of big business and specific legislations favorable to big business as Kochs plan it make it so difficult for small business, the real backbone of America's economy.
 
2015-08-02 11:35:16 PM  
Does the Facebook widget just not work at all or something?
 
2015-08-02 11:38:49 PM  
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2015-08-02 11:42:48 PM  

JavierLobo: The Civil Rights movement was a campaign for MORE government regulation.  It was all about intrusive government regulation to root out racism in the private and public sectors.


The civil rights movement was not about MORE regulations. It was about removing legislation that said no coloreds allowed in the St. Louis public swimming pool. It was removing legislation that said coloreds could not go to whites only schools. It was about taking down legislation that made it an arrestable crime to be a black man married to a white woman in Virginia. Or for that matter, a white man wanting to marry a Chinese woman in California before 1947.
 
2015-08-02 11:43:54 PM  
I think we need less rollign back regulations, and more pikes and guillotines.
 
2015-08-02 11:44:40 PM  
I love these people, I really do.

"Regulations are choking our industries! We need to get rid of them arbidhgdigh."

Which is when I step in and say, "HI! I work in nuclear power! Tell me more about how you want all of my job's regulations removed!"

Then suddenly they're sputtering and walking shiat backwards...
 
2015-08-02 11:45:38 PM  
Well, to a psychopath, not being allowed to rape and plunder at will is oppression.

/won't somebody please think of the poor psychopaths?
 
2015-08-03 12:03:35 AM  

Mentat: As part of the program, which was not open to the news media, officials from Chile gave presentations on the country's economic and political history.

They literally want us to be like Pinochet's Chile.  I can't wait to hear the Koch-defenders try and explain away that one.


I'll wager they won't. There's a lot of Pinochet love among certain right-wing circles.
 
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