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2015-07-31 3:30:51 PM  
Because politicians, desperate to appear "tough on crime" (despite evidence that this doesn't work), keep adding bullsh*t offenses to the list of things that get you put on the registry?
 
2015-07-31 4:20:12 PM  
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2015-07-31 4:55:50 PM  
It won't just show you were they live. It'll track their cell phones so that you can see where they are at any given time.  Really, I guess the goal is to ostracize them as much as possible by assuming they're guilty for life, make them depressed and lonely, and then, as a result, cause them to have to look to people who don't assume they're evil--I dunno, maybe someone innocent, like children--and... well....

/somehow I don't think they thought their cunning plan all the way through.
 
2015-07-31 6:28:22 PM  
I don't really care about sex offenders, but I would like to know where "morning people" live so I don't move in next to them.
 
2015-07-31 7:20:03 PM  

koder: It won't just show you were they live. It'll track their cell phones so that you can see where they are at any given time.  Really, I guess the goal is to ostracize them as much as possible by assuming they're guilty for life, make them depressed and lonely, and then, as a result, cause them to have to look to people who don't assume they're evil--I dunno, maybe someone innocent, like children--and... well....

/somehow I don't think they thought their cunning plan all the way through.


Oh but they did, you see.  They want ever more people "in" the system and they want those who get out right back in ASAP.  There's money to be made!

As the father of a young daughter I have precisely ZERO sympathy for sexual predators, however once they've served their time I'd prefer it if they've had counseling and vocational training.  Guess my bleeding heart liberal ass just isn't tough on crime.
 
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2015-07-31 7:54:21 PM  
Hasn't this been around for years?
 
2015-07-31 8:20:14 PM  
One of several major flaws in our justice system is how we classify people as lifetime sexual predators. Not going to lie, some of them probably are worthy of the label, but far too many crimes get placed in the same bucket as pedophilia. It's ridiculous and it makes me kind of mad.

This is anecdotal, I realize. However, I know one person who has become a registered sexual offender because he had sexual contact with a young kid (thinking like a 7 or 8 year old). On the flip side, I know a handful of men who were prosecuted as sexual offenders for having under age girlfriends. I'm sorry a 20 year old dating a 15 year old is a little weird, but that is not the same thing as a pedophile.

Secondly, I believe that these people who are committing crimes against children, upon release, should be treated fairly. However, there should be a process where they have to show that they're going to counseling and getting regular psychological treatment. But, I think that should be mandatory for a lot of crimes, not just sexual offenders. It's part of the cost of rehabilitation, but it has the potential to make a tremendous difference to someone trying to overcome whatever circumstances lead to his or her crime, but also, to help them adjust to life outside of prison, dealing with people who've never been there, and who will never know what it is like.
 
2015-07-31 8:21:47 PM  
Why let em out of jail at all if we think they're so dangerous? Is there a Maegyne's Law for murderers?
 
2015-07-31 8:35:01 PM  
"Why the online maps of the future are likely to feature the homes of registered sex-offenders alongside the Starbucks outlets"


Because the criminal justice system is all about punishment, but not rehab and integration back into society. If some sex offenders are such a threat to offend again, then their sentences should reflect that.

 
2015-07-31 8:43:48 PM  
Online maps of sex offender residences have been around for 20 years, is this an article from 1993 or something?  Should we worry about the author getting caught in the Mississippi flooding, or buy him some new parachute pants for his keen insight?
 
2015-07-31 8:50:31 PM  
As a reminder, in the US "sex crimes" include sharing nude photos of yourself.
 
2015-07-31 8:59:09 PM  

twohotpumpsofmanlove: One of several major flaws in our justice system is how we classify people as lifetime sexual predators. Not going to lie, some of them probably are worthy of the label, but far too many crimes get placed in the same bucket as pedophilia. It's ridiculous and it makes me kind of mad.


With all this high tech shiat we have now I find it hard to believe that they can't put an annotation next to the "sex offender" label that says whether the guy is there because he diddled a little kid or because he got got taking a leak in the alley behind the Viper Room at !:00 am.
 
2015-07-31 9:50:21 PM  
I'll have a Grande Bush Urinator.

/sounds refreshing
 
2015-07-31 11:53:37 PM  

twohotpumpsofmanlove: One of several major flaws in our justice system is how we classify people as lifetime sexual predators. Not going to lie, some of them probably are worthy of the label, but far too many crimes get placed in the same bucket as pedophilia. It's ridiculous and it makes me kind of mad.

This is anecdotal, I realize. However, I know one person who has become a registered sexual offender because he had sexual contact with a young kid (thinking like a 7 or 8 year old). On the flip side, I know a handful of men who were prosecuted as sexual offenders for having under age girlfriends. I'm sorry a 20 year old dating a 15 year old is a little weird, but that is not the same thing as a pedophile.

Secondly, I believe that these people who are committing crimes against children, upon release, should be treated fairly. However, there should be a process where they have to show that they're going to counseling and getting regular psychological treatment. But, I think that should be mandatory for a lot of crimes, not just sexual offenders. It's part of the cost of rehabilitation, but it has the potential to make a tremendous difference to someone trying to overcome whatever circumstances lead to his or her crime, but also, to help them adjust to life outside of prison, dealing with people who've never been there, and who will never know what it is like.


I knew the brother of a mentally retarded guy who was imprisoned for killing a child by sitting on him til he stopped breathing, and then while in prison was found in possession of pictures of children from the Sears catalog. This information was used to label the guy a violent offender and have him locked up indefinitely as a "violent pedophile".

So frankly the law can go fark itself, I've seen its true face.
 
2015-08-01 12:45:23 AM  
Eight-year-olds, dude.
 
2015-08-01 1:16:28 AM  

Napoleon Bonerfart: twohotpumpsofmanlove: One of several major flaws in our justice system is how we classify people as lifetime sexual predators. Not going to lie, some of them probably are worthy of the label, but far too many crimes get placed in the same bucket as pedophilia. It's ridiculous and it makes me kind of mad.

This is anecdotal, I realize. However, I know one person who has become a registered sexual offender because he had sexual contact with a young kid (thinking like a 7 or 8 year old). On the flip side, I know a handful of men who were prosecuted as sexual offenders for having under age girlfriends. I'm sorry a 20 year old dating a 15 year old is a little weird, but that is not the same thing as a pedophile.

Secondly, I believe that these people who are committing crimes against children, upon release, should be treated fairly. However, there should be a process where they have to show that they're going to counseling and getting regular psychological treatment. But, I think that should be mandatory for a lot of crimes, not just sexual offenders. It's part of the cost of rehabilitation, but it has the potential to make a tremendous difference to someone trying to overcome whatever circumstances lead to his or her crime, but also, to help them adjust to life outside of prison, dealing with people who've never been there, and who will never know what it is like.

I knew the brother of a mentally retarded guy who was imprisoned for killing a child by sitting on him til he stopped breathing, and then while in prison was found in possession of pictures of children from the Sears catalog. This information was used to label the guy a violent offender and have him locked up indefinitely as a "violent pedophile".

So frankly the law can go fark itself, I've seen its true face.


He killed a kid he should be put away for life anyway
 
2015-08-01 2:40:53 AM  
Ftfa: There are other potentially controversial databases which could be grafted into mapping services, such as the ability to calculate the risk of violent crime from walking in a particular area by cross-calculating the time of day (or night) of the walk with crime statistics from municipal police databases."


So... why is that controversial?
 
2015-08-01 11:06:53 AM  

DerAppie: Ftfa: There are other potentially controversial databases which could be grafted into mapping services, such as the ability to calculate the risk of violent crime from walking in a particular area by cross-calculating the time of day (or night) of the walk with crime statistics from municipal police databases."


So... why is that controversial?


Because it's an unreliable way to color a neighborhood.
 
2015-08-01 12:30:45 PM  

rzrwiresunrise: DerAppie: Ftfa: There are other potentially controversial databases which could be grafted into mapping services, such as the ability to calculate the risk of violent crime from walking in a particular area by cross-calculating the time of day (or night) of the walk with crime statistics from municipal police databases."


So... why is that controversial?

Because it's an unreliable way to color a neighborhood.


Ooh, I was just trying to tune my dog whistle to properly state it. Good work.
 
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