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2015-07-28 1:35:57 PM  
I had wondered about that.

Your system resources are limited and each application, program or function when running can slow it down. When I switched to a new computer, I noticed that various programs did not start until I clicked on them, then they asked permission, a difference from Windows XP, which loaded almost everything at startup into the background.

My computer repair guys mentioned that various apps loaded into my browser could slow down my system also so I should choose which ones I really needed and remove the rest. When I had a virus removed, they purged the system and reloaded it, removing many new programs and I noticed a big difference in the operating speed. The same for my browsing.

However, I have noticed when cruising the web, that many sites have auto play videos, which you can't shut off, for advertising and flashing, blinking adds that are distracting. These buggers consume system resources, slowing down the speed of your browsing. I added in an as blocker, which helped, but now I often get pop-ups chastising me for using an add blocker on some sites.

I've noticed sites where I watch a video or two and have active .gif ads running at the same time often throw my video out of sync.

My system, for me anyhow, has a huge amount of memory and a huge HD (though for most of you, this would be the norm or maybe not so spectacular -- my first computer had no hard drive and 64K of ram).

I started thinking not too long ago that the ever increasing amount of ads could be causing problems with systems due to consuming resources. However, ad blockers do not get all of the ads. I think even using them will slow down the loading of a website a bit as they search for and block the mass of ads lurking in the darkness, ready to swarm on various websites like a cloud of ravenous locusts.

I understand ads help pay for the websites, but they've become a problem. I recently had to install a program that sweeps my system and wipes out all sorts of advertisement tracking cookies dumped on it and was quite surprised at how many there are. They slip right by my security program and while the program blocks many, certain cookies keep showing up time and time again.

Annoying!
 
2015-07-28 1:50:51 PM  
Two decades ago you could watch everything but the page content load and it took forever. Nothing has changed.
 
2015-07-28 2:26:40 PM  
It does suck but Adblock Plus and disabling Flash (to where you decide it runs...it will ask) are a must.

Unfortunately, they are finding ways around this - like those stupid side banners that stretch across the middle of the page when you scroll down in an article.

I knew back in the 90s that web browsing was going to eventually be reminiscent of the billboards along the road in the movie Brazil.
 
2015-07-28 3:40:11 PM  
Just stop the damned page from jumping up and down while it loads shiat.  It makes it difficult to read anything and worse to have to click on anything.
 
2015-07-28 3:41:56 PM  
Yeah, Drew, all the ads and tracking and other crap worked like a memory hole in chrome.
 
2015-07-28 3:43:11 PM  

Nonrepeating Rotating Binary: Just stop the damned page from jumping up and down while it loads shiat.  It makes it difficult to read anything and worse to have to click on anything.


Bad CSS design.

/I'm looking at you, Slate - especially your mobile responsive view
 
2015-07-28 3:47:58 PM  
NoScript
AdBlock
Ghostery

Sure, it often breaks a lot of things, but the vast majority of what it breaks isn't worth looking at... and you can always turn them off on a page-by-page basis.
=Smidge=
 
2015-07-28 3:50:35 PM  

Smidge204: NoScript
AdBlock
Ghostery

Sure, it often breaks a lot of things, but the vast majority of what it breaks isn't worth looking at... and you can always turn them off on a page-by-page basis.
=Smidge=


Now if Fark would understand that I took out a TF subscription to not have to load their ads. I shouldn't need to subscribe to barefark as well.

/Take TFers off the barefark list, or give it to us already!
 
2015-07-28 3:58:25 PM  

Nonrepeating Rotating Binary: Just stop the damned page from jumping up and down while it loads shiat.  It makes it difficult to read anything and worse to have to click on anything.


That frustrates the hell out out of me on mobile sites.
 
2015-07-28 4:25:59 PM  

Tchernobog: Nonrepeating Rotating Binary: Just stop the damned page from jumping up and down while it loads shiat.  It makes it difficult to read anything and worse to have to click on anything.

That frustrates the hell out out of me on mobile sites.


It frustrates the hell out of me on THIS site, mobile or not!
 
2015-07-28 5:16:12 PM  

UberDave: It does suck but Adblock Plus and disabling Flash (to where you decide it runs...it will ask) are a must.


I am shocked when I use a computer without some kind of blocking. "WTF! This is so slow. How do you stand this!"
 
2015-07-28 6:03:21 PM  

ajgeek: Smidge204: NoScript
AdBlock
Ghostery

Sure, it often breaks a lot of things, but the vast majority of what it breaks isn't worth looking at... and you can always turn them off on a page-by-page basis.
=Smidge=

Now if Fark would understand that I took out a TF subscription to not have to load their ads. I shouldn't need to subscribe to barefark as well.

/Take TFers off the barefark list, or give it to us already!


Haven't needed or heard of ghostery.
Worth it?
 
2015-07-28 6:11:59 PM  

Best Princess Celestia: ajgeek: Smidge204: NoScript
AdBlock
Ghostery

Sure, it often breaks a lot of things, but the vast majority of what it breaks isn't worth looking at... and you can always turn them off on a page-by-page basis.
=Smidge=

Now if Fark would understand that I took out a TF subscription to not have to load their ads. I shouldn't need to subscribe to barefark as well.

/Take TFers off the barefark list, or give it to us already!

Haven't needed or heard of ghostery.
Worth it?


It is but I wouldn't run it on firefox, firefox is noticably slower when using it however palemoon (a 64bit derivative of firefox) has so much extra headroom that ghostery is hardly felt with it.  So basically just throw in 'use palemoon as your browser instead' onto the list.
 
2015-07-28 6:14:32 PM  

Best Princess Celestia: ajgeek: Smidge204: NoScript
AdBlock
Ghostery
...
Haven't needed or heard of ghostery.
Worth it?


Yeah. Ghostery is worth risking the $0.
 
2015-07-28 6:19:05 PM  
Only 14 million impressions a month?  Must not be much of a "global news company".
 
2015-07-28 7:07:49 PM  
http://links.twibright.com/

Best. Browser. Ever.
 
2015-07-28 7:21:38 PM  
FARK is kind of weird. I use the palemoon with no script and ublock most of the time even when posting like this (no quoting or pictures or whatnot). However when I want to do some fancy posting I will allow just fark.com temporarily. Unfortunately the scripting is so bad on this site that it will then only post maybe a 3rd of the time.

Can't this stuff be done server side or something?
 
2015-07-28 10:37:25 PM  

Smidge204: NoScript
AdBlock
Ghostery

Sure, it often breaks a lot of things, but the vast majority of what it breaks isn't worth looking at... and you can always turn them off on a page-by-page basis.
=Smidge=


I usually go one step further with the Element Hiding Helper in AdBlock. It gets rid of most of those things that nag you about using an ad blocker. it's not 100% perfect, but it's close and comes in handy for those things that slip by AdBlock.
 
2015-07-28 10:40:10 PM  

UberDave: Unfortunately, they are finding ways around this - like those stupid side banners that stretch across the middle of the page when you scroll down in an article.


Those are often css elements, and can be blocked individually while allowing the rest of the page to load as normal. This is worth doing if you visit a site often; not so much if you don't. My general behavior is block everything by default (AB+, noscript, etc) and only go through the motions of unblocking pages I like or frequent. In the case of fark, I tell noscript to allow fark scripts to run, but none of the ad servers trying to run stuff at the same time. Then, using AB+ or similar, look at the stuff fark's running and kill the stuff that's not useful. Lots of neat tools out there.
 
2015-07-29 1:47:28 AM  
Or you could just not put farking ad services on your farking site. What is this, Geocities? We're back in the Dark Ages. Where are my rotating skull GIFs? Where's my "UNDER CONSTRUCTION" banner? Bring me my auto-play MIDI backgrounds!!
 
2015-07-29 1:50:27 AM  

ajgeek: Smidge204: NoScript
AdBlock
Ghostery

Sure, it often breaks a lot of things, but the vast majority of what it breaks isn't worth looking at... and you can always turn them off on a page-by-page basis.
=Smidge=

Now if Fark would understand that I took out a TF subscription to not have to load their ads. I shouldn't need to subscribe to barefark as well.

/Take TFers off the barefark list, or give it to us already!


Wait. TotalFark still has ads? Really?

Wow, Drew. Seriously. Woe.
 
2015-07-29 1:50:50 AM  
Awesome autocorrect right there.
 
Zel
2015-07-29 8:37:01 AM  
After about a year of the popups saying 'hey we see you blocking ads... Please consider totalfark...'
I signed up for a year to be a good citizen.
A month later the 'pay us half again more for barefark' popped up.
Weasels.
 
2015-07-29 1:34:09 PM  

blahpers: Or you could just not put farking ad services on your farking site.


Hosting costs for a large site are at least five figures per month.  Do you think a Patreon link in the sidebar is going to cover it?
 
2015-07-29 4:02:22 PM  

blahpers: Or you could just not put farking ad services on your farking site. What is this, Geocities? We're back in the Dark Ages. Where are my rotating skull GIFs? Where's my "UNDER CONSTRUCTION" banner? Bring me my auto-play MIDI backgrounds!!


This should help sooth you. http://hampsterdance.spacebison.com/
 
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