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2015-06-26 11:10:35 AM  
Yes please help end Burning Man. Do it for the childrens.
 
2015-06-26 11:42:39 AM  
FTA: "The proposed Blue Pit compound will be an exclusive set-up reserved for BLM officials and VIP guests."

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2015-06-26 11:52:31 AM  
Once you go FUBAR, you can never go back.
Just walk away.
 
2015-06-26 12:10:53 PM  
 
2015-06-26 1:18:32 PM  
Although TFA has its leanings toward comfort etc. I would venture to guess that the BLM is doing this more safety of staff with all the hatred towrds the Bureau in NV right now. Im guessing but yeah.
 
2015-06-26 1:21:36 PM  
BLM, local counties, etc. have been riding this gravy train hard.  Permit fees have multiplied over the past 4 years while the population has leveled off.

But the event sells out every year now, so the tickets are below market value.  So the government milks the Org.  The Org milks the participants.  And we just continue to pay.

As much as I love it, a year off would do everyone good.  Regionals would get a boost.  The govt would lose out on the revenue.  The BLM and  and police would miss out on that sweet, sweet overtime pay.  The local towns would lose out on sales and drug/moving violation money.
 
2015-06-26 1:24:05 PM  
renting 16 trailers for a week, that comes close to $9,000/day to get to the stupid $1M figure.
 
2015-06-26 1:24:11 PM  
Isn't Burning Man now all about celebrities popping in for a day to show how trendy they are then hesding back to the private jet?
 
2015-06-26 1:25:34 PM  
Cliven Bundy signal
 
2015-06-26 1:33:42 PM  

mama2tnt: FTA: "The proposed Blue Pit compound will be an exclusive set-up reserved for BLM officials and VIP guests."


Eight VIP beds. Eight showers. Six toilets. I guess two of them have to pee in the shower.
 
2015-06-26 1:34:13 PM  
I remember thinking BM looked cool when I was in college.  These recent incantations look to be an experience somewhere between Woodstock '99 and a meet-n-greet at the Airport Ramada.  Good drugs can only do so much to compensate for bad company.
 
2015-06-26 1:35:18 PM  
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2015-06-26 1:36:49 PM  

ArgusRun: BLM, local counties, etc. have been riding this gravy train hard.  Permit fees have multiplied over the past 4 years while the population has leveled off.

But the event sells out every year now, so the tickets are below market value.  So the government milks the Org.  The Org milks the participants.  And we just continue to pay.

As much as I love it, a year off would do everyone good.  Regionals would get a boost.  The govt would lose out on the revenue.  The BLM and  and police would miss out on that sweet, sweet overtime pay.  The local towns would lose out on sales and drug/moving violation money.


HOLY CARP! I just checked the Burning Man website and tix are $390! Plus an additional $50 for a vehicle pass. Thats a lot of money, I guess I will be holding off for a couple years for a visit.
 
2015-06-26 1:39:22 PM  
Hey now, these are Important People. Some of them are even Very Important People.

You don't expect them to actually mingle with the common folk, do you?
 
2015-06-26 1:39:25 PM  
Sounds like every bigwig or person who thinks they are "somebody" in the government wants to come visit, and the BLM is trying to set up these VIP areas for them. Nothing to do with "reviewing the safety of the event" or whatever else BS they come up with.

Also, "safety of staff" my ass. Plenty of gov't field jobs have less-than-vip living conditions, no reason the BLM staff can't live in tents like everyone else.
 
2015-06-26 1:39:39 PM  

Sapper_Topo: Although TFA has its leanings toward comfort etc. I would venture to guess that the BLM is doing this more safety of staff with all the hatred towrds the Bureau in NV right now. Im guessing but yeah.


for the record, these are the "primitive" accomodations in Gerlach they say are just too rough for thier tender BLM behinds:

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2015-06-26 1:40:13 PM  
Shut it down. No reason to let all the druggos have free reign on our lands.
 
2015-06-26 1:42:04 PM  

jimmythefly: Also, "safety of staff" my ass. Plenty of gov't field jobs have less-than-vip living conditions, no reason the BLM staff can't live in tents like everyone else.


I think you really dont grasp how disliked the BLM is here. See the above Bundy commenter.
 
2015-06-26 1:42:31 PM  

ArgusRun: BLM, local counties, etc. have been riding this gravy train hard.  Permit fees have multiplied over the past 4 years while the population has leveled off.

But the event sells out every year now, so the tickets are below market value.  So the government milks the Org.  The Org milks the participants.  And we just continue to pay.

As much as I love it, a year off would do everyone good.  Regionals would get a boost.  The govt would lose out on the revenue.  The BLM and  and police would miss out on that sweet, sweet overtime pay.  The local towns would lose out on sales and drug/moving violation money.


as a founder of an East coast regional and someone who hasn;t been on Playa for almost 15 years now, I can only say Amen.  BM is in desperate need of a reboot and and "back to our roots"movement before it is too late.   And frankly the org should tell the BLM what they tell everyone else:  You want a swag camp?  then build it your damnselves
 
2015-06-26 1:44:29 PM  

Magorn: Sapper_Topo: Although TFA has its leanings toward comfort etc. I would venture to guess that the BLM is doing this more safety of staff with all the hatred towrds the Bureau in NV right now. Im guessing but yeah.

for the record, these are the "primitive" accomodations in Gerlach they say are just too rough for thier tender BLM behinds:

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Ive been to Gerlach I know. I grew up about 2 hours from the Playa on the CA side of the border. Im not justifying or condemning the BLM for their choice. Im just trying to reason. I really do feel like its a safety thing.
 
2015-06-26 1:46:51 PM  

Sapper_Topo: jimmythefly: Also, "safety of staff" my ass. Plenty of gov't field jobs have less-than-vip living conditions, no reason the BLM staff can't live in tents like everyone else.

I think you really dont grasp how disliked the BLM is here. See the above Bundy commenter.


Ah, so they need like a guarded compound for their staff?

I was thinking "safety" more along the lines of that they were requesting hot water and flush toilets and such, which is obviously extravagent. As I said, there are LOTS of gov't jobs where for a period of each year you are required as part of the duties of that job to "rough it". Fire lookouts, military, wildlife surveys, etc.

Suck it up BLM.

I also just read the part about the attendance remaining mostly flat, but fees keep going up massively, its egregious.
 
2015-06-26 1:50:36 PM  

jimmythefly: Sapper_Topo: jimmythefly: Also, "safety of staff" my ass. Plenty of gov't field jobs have less-than-vip living conditions, no reason the BLM staff can't live in tents like everyone else.

I think you really dont grasp how disliked the BLM is here. See the above Bundy commenter.

Ah, so they need like a guarded compound for their staff?

I was thinking "safety" more along the lines of that they were requesting hot water and flush toilets and such, which is obviously extravagent. As I said, there are LOTS of gov't jobs where for a period of each year you are required as part of the duties of that job to "rough it". Fire lookouts, military, wildlife surveys, etc.

Suck it up BLM.

I also just read the part about the attendance remaining mostly flat, but fees keep going up massively, its egregious.


I hear you but BLMers are advised not to go out in the field wearing uniforms around here now etc. plus The Las Vegas paper published this yesterday which will surely have some more backlash for the BLM. When you live out here and see whats going on with them its pretty scary.

By SANDRA CHEREB
LAS VEGAS REVIEW-JOURNAL CAPITAL BUREAU
INCLINE VILLAGE - Interior Secretary Sally Jewell said Wednesday she is confident that Bunkerville rancher Cliven Bundy, who with armed supporters faced down federal officials over grazing cattle on public land, will be held accountable.
"Cliven Bundy has had multiple court orders to remove his cattle from federal public lands and he has not paid his grazing fees and he has not abided by the law," Jewell told the Las Vegas Review-Journal. "We will continue to pursue that."
Jewell spoke in Incline Village, where she was to deliver the keynote address to the  http://www.reviewjournal.com/politics/governors-tackle-drought-lake-ta hoe-forum" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204); margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border: 0px; font-style: inherit; font-variant: inherit; vertical-align: baseline;">Western Governors' Association later in the day.
In April 2014,  http://www.reviewjournal.com/news/nevada/militias-mobilizing-support-e mbattled-clark-county-rancher-clash-federal-rangers" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204); margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border: 0px; font-style: inherit; font-variant: inherit; vertical-align: baseline;">Bundy supporters from around the country congregated on his remote Southern Nevada ranch after Bureau of Land Management officers tried to round up his cattle for failing to pay $1 million in grazing fees over the past 20 years.
http://www.reviewjournal.com/news/bundy-blm/strife-dissipates-after- ca ttle-roundup-federal-land-agency-pursue-other-action" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204); margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border: 0px; font-style: inherit; font-variant: inherit; vertical-align: baseline;">A tense standoff ensued before federal officials backed down and the cattle were released back to the range.
"The safety of our law enforcement officers and the safety of people that represent land managers at every level is of paramount importance to me," Jewell said.
"The wheels of justice move at their own pace," Jewell said. "I am confident this issue is going to be appropriately resolved."
 
2015-06-26 1:51:08 PM  
Ack sorry for the embedded stuff.
 
2015-06-26 1:58:03 PM  
Let's see, you want to hold an event on public land, but you don't want to cover the cost of the required presence of authorities.

I see nothing outrageous in the request from the BLM for the size of the event.  Flush toilets?  OK.  Showers?  After a day of interacting with the Burning Man crowd I'd want to scrub the hippy off at the end of the day.  Hot Water? Seems reasonable if you have showers.  Mirrors?  That should be a total non issue unless the organizers are vampires.
 
2015-06-26 2:05:49 PM  
The whole idea of Burning Man is kind of silly. 60,000 people attending, to show how different they are, except for the other 59,999 who are the same as them.
 
2015-06-26 2:09:55 PM  
Burning Man and Disney World are both on my "not in the bucket" list.  Last good thing that came out of BM was the hexayurt.
 
2015-06-26 2:17:51 PM  

Mr. Eugenides: Let's see, you want to hold an event on public land, but you don't want to cover the cost of the required presence of authorities.

I see nothing outrageous in the request from the BLM for the size of the event.  Flush toilets?  OK.  Showers?  After a day of interacting with the Burning Man crowd I'd want to scrub the hippy off at the end of the day.  Hot Water? Seems reasonable if you have showers.  Mirrors?  That should be a total non issue unless the organizers are vampires.


But here's the thing - none of those things exist for the participants.  You have to haul in (and haul out) everything that you have for the event.  Flush toilets?  Why can't they use portapotties like the rest of us?   Showers?  Most camps don't have them.  It's a level of infrastructure that far exceeds the infrastructure that's there.
 
2015-06-26 2:18:43 PM  
This is exactly what happened to the Grateful Dead scene. Next year they'll set up "court in a trailer", and the great circle of ruin will be complete.
 
jvl [BareFark]
2015-06-26 2:20:08 PM  
So basically they'd like a couple of portables for the BLM support staff who are brought in to monitor this multi-million dollar enterprise which takes place on BLM land. With drawings of what a portable looks like, in case the Burning Man staff are unfamiliar with the concept.

My outrage is missing.
 
2015-06-26 2:21:14 PM  

TEA-PARTY-PATRIOT: Shut it down. No reason to let all the druggos have free reign on our lands.


The Burning Man Organization pays about $4.5 million to use the land, and the leave no trace policy means after the event it looks no different than it did before.
 
2015-06-26 2:23:22 PM  

wiseolddude: The whole idea of Burning Man is kind of silly. 60,000 people attending, to show how different they are, except for the other 59,999 who are the same as them.


Sigh.  Nope.  That's not why people go.  Music, art, a social experiment, extreme camping, creativity, lots of reasons, but I can tell you that my group of friends who go don't give a damn if we're "different" or not (we're mostly not - Hell, I'm a corporate lawyer).
 
2015-06-26 2:26:08 PM  

Sapper_Topo: ArgusRun: BLM, local counties, etc. have been riding this gravy train hard.  Permit fees have multiplied over the past 4 years while the population has leveled off.

But the event sells out every year now, so the tickets are below market value.  So the government milks the Org.  The Org milks the participants.  And we just continue to pay.

As much as I love it, a year off would do everyone good.  Regionals would get a boost.  The govt would lose out on the revenue.  The BLM and  and police would miss out on that sweet, sweet overtime pay.  The local towns would lose out on sales and drug/moving violation money.

HOLY CARP! I just checked the Burning Man website and tix are $390! Plus an additional $50 for a vehicle pass. Thats a lot of money, I guess I will be holding off for a couple years for a visit.


Tickets are likely your smallest expense (but the hardest thing to get a hold of, at least this year).  Getting all the gear, etc., necessary for a week in the desert adds up.  You can't show up with a cheap Walmart tent and expect it to hold up to the wind.  There are no facilities (other than port-a-potties), so you're hauling in (and hauling out) everything.  It's a complex logistical challenge, particularly if you're coming from far away.
 
2015-06-26 2:27:41 PM  
Skwrl: ... I can tell you that my group of friends who go don't give a damn if we're "different" or not (we're mostly not - Hell, I'm a corporate lawyer).

They don't care about being different, which is what sets them apart.
 
jvl [BareFark]
2015-06-26 2:29:02 PM  

Skwrl: Flush toilets?  Why can't they use portapotties like the rest of us?   Showers?  Most camps don't have them.


RVs are permitted at BM; they have flush toilets and showers.

Also, if you rent a house to people who live like animals, are you obligated to live like an animal? (Please don't judge me for my fetish)


Skwrl: It's a level of infrastructure that far exceeds the infrastructure that's there.


Construction sites always start out without infrastructure. Somehow they manage to have temporary buildings brought to the site for office use by some kind of wizardry.
 
2015-06-26 2:31:01 PM  

Magorn: ArgusRun: BLM, local counties, etc. have been riding this gravy train hard.  Permit fees have multiplied over the past 4 years while the population has leveled off.

But the event sells out every year now, so the tickets are below market value.  So the government milks the Org.  The Org milks the participants.  And we just continue to pay.

As much as I love it, a year off would do everyone good.  Regionals would get a boost.  The govt would lose out on the revenue.  The BLM and  and police would miss out on that sweet, sweet overtime pay.  The local towns would lose out on sales and drug/moving violation money.

as a founder of an East coast regional and someone who hasn;t been on Playa for almost 15 years now, I can only say Amen.  BM is in desperate need of a reboot and and "back to our roots"movement before it is too late.   And frankly the org should tell the BLM what they tell everyone else:  You want a swag camp?  then build it your damnselves


Oooh.  Which one?  Boyfriend is angling for a a regional this year.  We've got tickets for Portal Burn in upstate New York.
 
2015-06-26 2:32:40 PM  

Skwrl: Sapper_Topo: ArgusRun: BLM, local counties, etc. have been riding this gravy train hard.  Permit fees have multiplied over the past 4 years while the population has leveled off.

But the event sells out every year now, so the tickets are below market value.  So the government milks the Org.  The Org milks the participants.  And we just continue to pay.

As much as I love it, a year off would do everyone good.  Regionals would get a boost.  The govt would lose out on the revenue.  The BLM and  and police would miss out on that sweet, sweet overtime pay.  The local towns would lose out on sales and drug/moving violation money.

HOLY CARP! I just checked the Burning Man website and tix are $390! Plus an additional $50 for a vehicle pass. Thats a lot of money, I guess I will be holding off for a couple years for a visit.

Tickets are likely your smallest expense (but the hardest thing to get a hold of, at least this year).  Getting all the gear, etc., necessary for a week in the desert adds up.  You can't show up with a cheap Walmart tent and expect it to hold up to the wind.  There are no facilities (other than port-a-potties), so you're hauling in (and hauling out) everything.  It's a complex logistical challenge, particularly if you're coming from far away.


Im pretty close actually. But yeah I get where youre coming from. My intern is a Burner and seeing all the stuff they have stocked up for it is quite impressive. I really have to pick her brain more about it before her internship is up.
 
2015-06-26 2:33:04 PM  
Burning Man sounded cool ten or fifteen years ago. Now it sounds like the Gathering of the Juggalos for self-important yuppie twats.
 
2015-06-26 2:34:20 PM  

BarkingUnicorn: Burning Man and Disney World are both on my "not in the bucket" list.  Last good thing that came out of BM was the hexayurt.


I've never been there, but Burning Man in the early 90's would have been something to see.

/ these days? it's too big, has too many people, and judging from the slick website, it's too corporate.
// parallels with the growth of Comic Con ( San Diego) seem appropriate to point out here...
 
2015-06-26 2:34:39 PM  

jvl: Skwrl: Flush toilets?  Why can't they use portapotties like the rest of us?   Showers?  Most camps don't have them.

RVs are permitted at BM; they have flush toilets and showers.

Also, if you rent a house to people who live like animals, are you obligated to live like an animal? (Please don't judge me for my fetish)


Skwrl: It's a level of infrastructure that far exceeds the infrastructure that's there.

Construction sites always start out without infrastructure. Somehow they manage to have temporary buildings brought to the site for office use by some kind of wizardry.


By all means, BMOrg should pay for RV for BLM to camp at the periphery; that cost would be a lot less than the $1m facility that BLM is asking for.  Additionally, it's a little unreasonable for the BLM ask to be made this late in the game, when revenue (ticket sales) and budgets have already been in place for well over a year.
 
2015-06-26 2:36:00 PM  
I couldn't care much less about Burning Man, but it sure sounds like someone is milking a bunch of people for every dollar they can get out of them.

Besides, there's no reason it can't be held on some other featureless stretch of hell.
 
2015-06-26 2:38:06 PM  

ArgusRun: But the event sells out every year now, so the tickets are below market value


Below market value starting at $400 per head, which as you say is less than most people actually pay. And that's just to get you in, not to get you there, park your vehicle, feed you, keep you hydrated, decorate your art car, get you altered, or anything else you might spend money on there. On a per-person basis, your average Burning Man experience is going to cost as much as any other splurge vacation.

Burning Man has been a mostly white-collar affair for years now, and every year those collars are made with a slightly higher thread count. Sure, there are free-spirited 20-something women wandering around in nothing but body paint. That's because sociology professors and HR managers appreciate their "free spirits." Their boyfriends' tickets weren't comped, though.

I'm surprised there wasn't  already a VIP laundromat. Besides, now the day trader who isn't part of the VIP crowd can feel good that he's "roughing it" in his rented RV, which has a shower and a toilet BUT NO LAUNDRY.
 
2015-06-26 2:39:08 PM  

Skwrl: jvl: Skwrl: Flush toilets?  Why can't they use portapotties like the rest of us?   Showers?  Most camps don't have them.

RVs are permitted at BM; they have flush toilets and showers.

Also, if you rent a house to people who live like animals, are you obligated to live like an animal? (Please don't judge me for my fetish)


Skwrl: It's a level of infrastructure that far exceeds the infrastructure that's there.

Construction sites always start out without infrastructure. Somehow they manage to have temporary buildings brought to the site for office use by some kind of wizardry.

By all means, BMOrg should pay for RV for BLM to camp at the periphery; that cost would be a lot less than the $1m facility that BLM is asking for.  Additionally, it's a little unreasonable for the BLM ask to be made this late in the game, when revenue (ticket sales) and budgets have already been in place for well over a year.


Slightly more accurate statement - since budgets have been established for over a year, and the vast majority of ticket sales has been completed already.  It's not as though they can meaningfully add revenue to offset the additional cost.
 
jvl [BareFark]
2015-06-26 2:45:57 PM  

deschinc: Burning Man sounded cool ten or fifteen years ago. Now it sounds like the Gathering of the Juggalos for self-important yuppie twats.


I'd like to go just for the art. Lot of neat projects. But the drugs and music sound pathetic in a "look how cool we self-important yuppie twats are" kind of way.
 
2015-06-26 2:49:25 PM  

Sudlow: Isn't Burning Man now all about celebrities popping in for a day to show how trendy they are then hesding back to the private jet?


Yeah, I'd say it's dead. I never made it out there.

Once government gets involved, it's going to be a mess.
 
2015-06-26 2:51:44 PM  

semiotix: ArgusRun: But the event sells out every year now, so the tickets are below market value

Below market value starting at $400 per head, which as you say is less than most people actually pay. And that's just to get you in, not to get you there, park your vehicle, feed you, keep you hydrated, decorate your art car, get you altered, or anything else you might spend money on there. On a per-person basis, your average Burning Man experience is going to cost as much as any other splurge vacation.

Burning Man has been a mostly white-collar affair for years now, and every year those collars are made with a slightly higher thread count. Sure, there are free-spirited 20-something women wandering around in nothing but body paint. That's because sociology professors and HR managers appreciate their "free spirits." Their boyfriends' tickets weren't comped, though.

I'm surprised there wasn't  already a VIP laundromat. Besides, now the day trader who isn't part of the VIP crowd can feel good that he's "roughing it" in his rented RV, which has a shower and a toilet BUT NO LAUNDRY.


There are people who rough it.  Not me.  My Kodiak Canvas Tent and monkey hut are LUXURIOUS. I could RV it, but I prefer to spend my money on gifts, and art, and food, and wine.

But there are those who come via ride share with a small backpacking tent, some water and trail mix.  They tend to congregate in center camp to sleep in the shade, but it can be done.  We feed hundreds of them every year when they wander in to our pancake breakfast.  But it's still say a minimum of $500.  Which for a week vacation isn't bad.  If your idea of a vacation is to shiat in a portopotty for a week.

Fun times.  Less than two months before I leave.
 
2015-06-26 2:52:18 PM  

ArgusRun: Magorn: ArgusRun: BLM, local counties, etc. have been riding this gravy train hard.  Permit fees have multiplied over the past 4 years while the population has leveled off.

But the event sells out every year now, so the tickets are below market value.  So the government milks the Org.  The Org milks the participants.  And we just continue to pay.

As much as I love it, a year off would do everyone good.  Regionals would get a boost.  The govt would lose out on the revenue.  The BLM and  and police would miss out on that sweet, sweet overtime pay.  The local towns would lose out on sales and drug/moving violation money.

as a founder of an East coast regional and someone who hasn;t been on Playa for almost 15 years now, I can only say Amen.  BM is in desperate need of a reboot and and "back to our roots"movement before it is too late.   And frankly the org should tell the BLM what they tell everyone else:  You want a swag camp?  then build it your damnselves

Oooh.  Which one?  Boyfriend is angling for a a regional this year.  We've got tickets for Portal Burn in upstate New York.


Haven't been to Portal but have close friends who do an say great things about it.   Playa Del Fuego is my "home" burn and the one I helped get up and running.   The October will be our 29th event and 15th straight year holding it in its current location.   (we burn twice a year because 12 months is just too damn long to wait).  PDF';s on drawback is that is sell out FAST because tickets are capped due to space limitations at its current venue, but a strong push is underway to have the org buy its own land....likely somewhere equidistant from DC, Baltimore NYC and Philly where most of our participants are from
 
2015-06-26 2:54:26 PM  
You become what you hate. No sympathy.
 
2015-06-26 2:57:15 PM  

Magorn: ArgusRun: Magorn: ArgusRun: BLM, local counties, etc. have been riding this gravy train hard.  Permit fees have multiplied over the past 4 years while the population has leveled off.

But the event sells out every year now, so the tickets are below market value.  So the government milks the Org.  The Org milks the participants.  And we just continue to pay.

As much as I love it, a year off would do everyone good.  Regionals would get a boost.  The govt would lose out on the revenue.  The BLM and  and police would miss out on that sweet, sweet overtime pay.  The local towns would lose out on sales and drug/moving violation money.

as a founder of an East coast regional and someone who hasn;t been on Playa for almost 15 years now, I can only say Amen.  BM is in desperate need of a reboot and and "back to our roots"movement before it is too late.   And frankly the org should tell the BLM what they tell everyone else:  You want a swag camp?  then build it your damnselves

Oooh.  Which one?  Boyfriend is angling for a a regional this year.  We've got tickets for Portal Burn in upstate New York.

Haven't been to Portal but have close friends who do an say great things about it.   Playa Del Fuego is my "home" burn and the one I helped get up and running.   The October will be our 29th event and 15th straight year holding it in its current location.   (we burn twice a year because 12 months is just too damn long to wait).  PDF';s on drawback is that is sell out FAST because tickets are capped due to space limitations at its current venue, but a strong push is underway to have the org buy its own land....likely somewhere equidistant from DC, Baltimore NYC and Philly where most of our participants are from


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2015-06-26 2:58:41 PM  

semiotix: ArgusRun: But the event sells out every year now, so the tickets are below market value

Below market value starting at $400 per head, which as you say is less than most people actually pay. And that's just to get you in, not to get you there, park your vehicle, feed you, keep you hydrated, decorate your art car, get you altered, or anything else you might spend money on there. On a per-person basis, your average Burning Man experience is going to cost as much as any other splurge vacation.

Burning Man has been a mostly white-collar affair for years now, and every year those collars are made with a slightly higher thread count. Sure, there are free-spirited 20-something women wandering around in nothing but body paint. That's because sociology professors and HR managers appreciate their "free spirits." Their boyfriends' tickets weren't comped, though.

I'm surprised there wasn't  already a VIP laundromat. Besides, now the day trader who isn't part of the VIP crowd can feel good that he's "roughing it" in his rented RV, which has a shower and a toilet BUT NO LAUNDRY.


you are mistaking cause and effect  in 1999 Sergey Brin was at Burning man, but he was just a geeky math guy who had founded a company a year before  ( i know because I drunkenly tech 'splained to him how searching the WHOLE internet was basically mathematically impossible, and he promptly and correctly eviscerated my arguments.


Now he and about half his company still go, its just they are all kazillionaires and as they always have travel in the best style they can manage...its just now was used to be whimsical excess seems more like wealth flaunting
 
2015-06-26 2:59:45 PM  

ArgusRun: There are people who rough it.


Yeah, I didn't mean to paint all Burners with that brush, and you're right... it's not all investment bankers (NTTAWWT). Although I think $500 total on a $400 ticket would still be some sort of world frugality record. Or charity, which is also fine and dandy, but SOMEBODY pays for that stuff.
 
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