Skip to content
 
If you can read this, either the style sheet didn't load or you have an older browser that doesn't support style sheets. Try clearing your browser cache and refreshing the page.

(Washington Post)   Pope Francis announces the formation of a new fast-response Whore Forgiveness Squad of priests who will dispatch around the globe to forgive women for having abortions   (washingtonpost.com) divider line
    More: Spiffy, Pope Francis, church law, Recife, abortions, pope, mercy  
•       •       •

2255 clicks; posted to Main » on 07 May 2015 at 10:30 AM (6 years ago)   |   Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook



106 Comments     (+0 »)
View Voting Results: Smartest and Funniest


Oldest | « | 1 | 2 | 3 | » | Newest | Show all

 
vpb [TotalFark]
2015-05-07 8:53:38 AM  
So they get to travel around the world on an expense account chasing hookers?
 
2015-05-07 9:06:49 AM  
I'm imagining a show with the same basic structure as Law and Order. Whore Squad. It would have two priests -- one a jaded, cynical, almost out of faith borderline alcoholic who nevertheless has an endless capacity for self-sacrifice and empathy; the other young, idealistic, inexperienced and utterly devout but who hasn't yet learned of his own frailties. Each episode is set in a different city around the world: Whore Squad: London. Whore Squad: Budapest. Whore Squad: Atlanta. In each episode they meet a fallen woman who's had an abortion, and over the course of the episode it comes out that her abortion was actually just the tip of the iceberg, that there is some dastardly plot to unravel before she can ever be truly saved. And, over the course of the first season, they start to become aware of stange coincidences between the women's cases. They start hearing whispers, rumors, about the existing of the Boning Man, a mysterious figure who is always one or two steps ahead of them, who circles the globe getting women pregnant as part of some much greater, much more nefarious plot. In each season, the priest duo is drawn deeper and deeper into this international web of mystery, intrigue, and the occult. There could even be some movie crossover potential.
 
2015-05-07 9:11:33 AM  
Holy shiat. This might be one of the most radical things he's done yet.

And that's not sarcasm. Saying abortion can be forgiven is a HUGE change.
 
2015-05-07 9:28:03 AM  
Why would I need forgiveness for a medical procedure?
 
2015-05-07 9:29:24 AM  

grumpfuff: Saying abortion can be forgiven is a HUGE change


After all the child raping, you would think that an abortion would be no big deal.
 
2015-05-07 10:30:21 AM  
Earth!
Fire!
Wind!
Water!
Harp!

By your powers combined, I am Captain Didn't Plan It!
 
2015-05-07 10:32:15 AM  

grumpfuff: Saying abortion can be forgiven is a HUGE change.


If I remember Catholic school correctly, the only unforgivable sin is the renunciation of the Holy Spirit.
 
2015-05-07 10:34:00 AM  
This of course implies that women who had abortion, need forgiveness.  While in many cases, abortion may be the wrong choice, in many others it is the necessary choice, and who am I, or anyone else, to decide for another such a serious decision?
 
2015-05-07 10:34:30 AM  
I acan hear tea bagger eyes popping out of their sockets from my desk.
 
2015-05-07 10:35:24 AM  

shut_it_down: grumpfuff: Saying abortion can be forgiven is a HUGE change.

If I remember Catholic school correctly, the only unforgivable sin is the renunciation of the Holy Spirit.


I thought it was suicide.
 
2015-05-07 10:36:07 AM  
We could use a couple squad members here.

We certainly have enough beadles.
 
2015-05-07 10:37:56 AM  

shut_it_down: grumpfuff: Saying abortion can be forgiven is a HUGE change.

If I remember Catholic school correctly, the only unforgivable sin is the renunciation of the Holy Spirit.


According to Father Harold Hill, it is talking out loud with a librarian.
 
2015-05-07 10:38:34 AM  

shut_it_down: grumpfuff: Saying abortion can be forgiven is a HUGE change.

If I remember Catholic school correctly, the only unforgivable sin is the renunciation of the Holy Spirit.


True, however abortion is a very hot button issue and as the article outlined the Catholic Church has had a very hard line position on it.  Reaching out and trying to reconcile with people they have ostracized is an enormous leap forward for the church.

This Pope, I like him.  He appears to have actually read that Bible thingy.
 
2015-05-07 10:39:18 AM  

shut_it_down: grumpfuff: Saying abortion can be forgiven is a HUGE change.

If I remember Catholic school correctly, the only unforgivable sin is the renunciation of the Holy Spirit.


thaylin: shut_it_down: grumpfuff: Saying abortion can be forgiven is a HUGE change.

If I remember Catholic school correctly, the only unforgivable sin is the renunciation of the Holy Spirit.

I thought it was suicide.


Both of those are unforgivable, and up til now abortion as as well. There are a few more I can't recall off the top of my head.
 
2015-05-07 10:40:35 AM  

plushpuppy: Why would I need forgiveness for a medical procedure?


img.fark.netView Full Size
 
2015-05-07 10:41:06 AM  

Some Coke Drinking Guy: This of course implies that women who had abortion, need forgiveness.  While in many cases, abortion may be the wrong choice, in many others it is the necessary choice, and who am I, or anyone else, to decide for another such a serious decision?


no no no, you're supposed to be all judgey and act pious and look down on people. Get it together!
 
2015-05-07 10:41:11 AM  

thaylin: I acan

Iocane powder you mean?

 
2015-05-07 10:41:58 AM  

Pocket Ninja: I'm imagining a show with the same basic structure as Law and Order. Whore Squad. It would have two priests -- one a jaded, cynical, almost out of faith borderline alcoholic who nevertheless has an endless capacity for self-sacrifice and empathy; the other young, idealistic, inexperienced and utterly devout but who hasn't yet learned of his own frailties. Each episode is set in a different city around the world: Whore Squad: London. Whore Squad: Budapest. Whore Squad: Atlanta. In each episode they meet a fallen woman who's had an abortion, and over the course of the episode it comes out that her abortion was actually just the tip of the iceberg, that there is some dastardly plot to unravel before she can ever be truly saved. And, over the course of the first season, they start to become aware of stange coincidences between the women's cases. They start hearing whispers, rumors, about the existing of the Boning Man, a mysterious figure who is always one or two steps ahead of them, who circles the globe getting women pregnant as part of some much greater, much more nefarious plot. In each season, the priest duo is drawn deeper and deeper into this international web of mystery, intrigue, and the occult. There could even be some movie crossover potential.



img.fark.netView Full Size

 
2015-05-07 10:41:59 AM  
They dip the coathangers in holy-water.
 
2015-05-07 10:42:23 AM  
The Catholic church is slightly less repugnant. Whoop-di-doo.
 
2015-05-07 10:45:26 AM  
I've always heard that most women who get abortions become so depressed that they kill themselves. Will the WFS have the authority to forgive that, too?
 
2015-05-07 10:48:48 AM  

grumpfuff: shut_it_down: grumpfuff: Saying abortion can be forgiven is a HUGE change.

If I remember Catholic school correctly, the only unforgivable sin is the renunciation of the Holy Spirit.

thaylin: shut_it_down: grumpfuff: Saying abortion can be forgiven is a HUGE change.

If I remember Catholic school correctly, the only unforgivable sin is the renunciation of the Holy Spirit.

I thought it was suicide.

Both of those are unforgivable, and up til now abortion as as well. There are a few more I can't recall off the top of my head.


To be fair, suicide would be unforgivable just due to the mechanics of confession.  You can't exactly confess to a suicide or say a bunch of hail Mary's after you've committed it.
 
2015-05-07 10:52:01 AM  
hbogameofthronesseason5.comView Full Size



Yes, my dear, Salvation is at hand.  Try finding it in my front pocket.
 
2015-05-07 10:52:18 AM  

plushpuppy: Why would I need forgiveness for a medical procedure?


Because it kills another human being?
 
2015-05-07 10:53:07 AM  

vpb: So they get to travel around the world on an expense account chasing hooker

Why should the Secret Squirrels have all the fun?
 
2015-05-07 10:54:10 AM  

Pocket Ninja: I'm imagining a show with the same basic structure as Law and Order. Whore Squad. It would have two priests -- one a jaded, cynical, almost out of faith borderline alcoholic who nevertheless has an endless capacity for self-sacrifice and empathy; the other young, idealistic, inexperienced and utterly devout but who hasn't yet learned of his own frailties. Each episode is set in a different city around the world: Whore Squad: London. Whore Squad: Budapest. Whore Squad: Atlanta. In each episode they meet a fallen woman who's had an abortion, and over the course of the episode it comes out that her abortion was actually just the tip of the iceberg, that there is some dastardly plot to unravel before she can ever be truly saved. And, over the course of the first season, they start to become aware of stange coincidences between the women's cases. They start hearing whispers, rumors, about the existing of the Boning Man, a mysterious figure who is always one or two steps ahead of them, who circles the globe getting women pregnant as part of some much greater, much more nefarious plot. In each season, the priest duo is drawn deeper and deeper into this international web of mystery, intrigue, and the occult. There could even be some movie crossover potential.


+10 Would watch.
 
2015-05-07 10:55:39 AM  

TurnerBrown: plushpuppy: Why would I need forgiveness for a medical procedure?

Because it kills another human being?


TurnerBrown: plushpuppy: Why would I need forgiveness for a medical procedure?

Because it kills another human being?



hu·man be·ing
noun
a man, woman, or child of the species  Homo sapiens, distinguished from other animals by superior mental development, power of articulate speech, and upright stance.


Abortion does not kill a man, woman, or child, it kills a fetus, so you are not killing a human being.
 
2015-05-07 10:56:16 AM  

grumpfuff: Holy shiat. This might be one of the most radical things he's done yet.

And that's not sarcasm. Saying abortion can be forgiven is a HUGE change.


Really? I think Jesus said there's only one sin that will not be forgiven:  denying the Grace offered by the Holy Spirit.
 
2015-05-07 10:58:39 AM  

shut_it_down: grumpfuff: Saying abortion can be forgiven is a HUGE change.

If I remember Catholic school correctly, the only unforgivable sin is the renunciation of the Holy Spirit.


Yep, the "Son Of God/Son Of Man" pointed that out more than once in a very clear way in the gospels.

Yet you never see it mentioned.

I always found that... odd.

/And that whole "Son Of God/Son Of Man" thing-- if the Big J was both, doesn't that mean that Man and God are one and the same?
//I'm cool with the Big J, but He REALLY needs to put the smack down on most chapters of His fan club.
 
2015-05-07 10:59:06 AM  

BarkingUnicorn: grumpfuff: Holy shiat. This might be one of the most radical things he's done yet.

And that's not sarcasm. Saying abortion can be forgiven is a HUGE change.

Really? I think Jesus said there's only one sin that will not be forgiven:  denying the Grace offered by the Holy Spirit.


This may come as a shock to you, but church doctrine isn't always dependent on what Jesus said.
 
2015-05-07 11:00:40 AM  
Great, they can start with poor girl in Paraguay.

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/may/05/to-make-a-10-ye ar -old-give-birth-isnt-just-horrifying-its-life-threatening

Her stepfather on the other hand gets one of the levels of hell.
 
2015-05-07 11:02:47 AM  

thaylin: TurnerBrown: plushpuppy: Why would I need forgiveness for a medical procedure?

Because it kills another human being?

TurnerBrown: plushpuppy: Why would I need forgiveness for a medical procedure?

Because it kills another human being?


hu·man be·ing
noun
a man, woman, or child of the species  Homo sapiens, distinguished from other animals by superior mental development, power of articulate speech, and upright stance.


Abortion does not kill a man, woman, or child, it kills a fetus, so you are not killing a human being.


And if you tell that to yourself enough you will probably believe it. People can learn to justify anything.
 
2015-05-07 11:03:17 AM  

thaylin: TurnerBrown: plushpuppy: Why would I need forgiveness for a medical procedure?

Because it kills another human being?

TurnerBrown: plushpuppy: Why would I need forgiveness for a medical procedure?

Because it kills another human being?


hu·man be·ing
noun
a man, woman, or child of the species  Homo sapiens, distinguished from other animals by superior mental development, power of articulate speech, and upright stance.


Abortion does not kill a man, woman, or child, it kills a fetus, so you are not killing a human being.


By that definition a baby is not human for the first few months after birth...
 
2015-05-07 11:05:30 AM  

shut_it_down: grumpfuff: shut_it_down: grumpfuff: Saying abortion can be forgiven is a HUGE change.

If I remember Catholic school correctly, the only unforgivable sin is the renunciation of the Holy Spirit.

thaylin: shut_it_down: grumpfuff: Saying abortion can be forgiven is a HUGE change.

If I remember Catholic school correctly, the only unforgivable sin is the renunciation of the Holy Spirit.

I thought it was suicide.

Both of those are unforgivable, and up til now abortion as as well. There are a few more I can't recall off the top of my head.

To be fair, suicide would be unforgivable just due to the mechanics of confession.  You can't exactly confess to a suicide or say a bunch of hail Mary's after you've committed it.


There's also the problem that any act must be uncoerced and done with the doer's informed consent in order to be a sin.  Such consent may be impossible in cases of suicide.
 
2015-05-07 11:06:00 AM  

wxboy: thaylin: TurnerBrown: plushpuppy: Why would I need forgiveness for a medical procedure?

Because it kills another human being?

TurnerBrown: plushpuppy: Why would I need forgiveness for a medical procedure?

Because it kills another human being?


hu·man be·ing
noun
a man, woman, or child of the species  Homo sapiens, distinguished from other animals by superior mental development, power of articulate speech, and upright stance.


Abortion does not kill a man, woman, or child, it kills a fetus, so you are not killing a human being.

By that definition a baby is not human for the first few months after birth...


Nor am I after a few drinks.
 
2015-05-07 11:07:51 AM  

TurnerBrown: thaylin: TurnerBrown: plushpuppy: Why would I need forgiveness for a medical procedure?

Because it kills another human being?

TurnerBrown: plushpuppy: Why would I need forgiveness for a medical procedure?

Because it kills another human being?


hu·man be·ing
noun
a man, woman, or child of the species  Homo sapiens, distinguished from other animals by superior mental development, power of articulate speech, and upright stance.


Abortion does not kill a man, woman, or child, it kills a fetus, so you are not killing a human being.

And if you tell that to yourself enough you will probably believe it. People can learn to justify anything.


I am sorry that you want your words to have no absolute meanings so that you can twist it to mean what you want it to mean, when you want it, however that is not how society works or language, at least not English.
 
2015-05-07 11:10:25 AM  

thaylin: TurnerBrown: thaylin: TurnerBrown: plushpuppy: Why would I need forgiveness for a medical procedure?

Because it kills another human being?

TurnerBrown: plushpuppy: Why would I need forgiveness for a medical procedure?

Because it kills another human being?


hu·man be·ing
noun
a man, woman, or child of the species  Homo sapiens, distinguished from other animals by superior mental development, power of articulate speech, and upright stance.


Abortion does not kill a man, woman, or child, it kills a fetus, so you are not killing a human being.

And if you tell that to yourself enough you will probably believe it. People can learn to justify anything.

I am sorry that you want your words to have no absolute meanings so that you can twist it to mean what you want it to mean, when you want it, however that is not how society works or language, at least not English.


my head literally exploded reading this.
 
2015-05-07 11:10:40 AM  
This is funny, from the article:
"God's law is above any human law," Archbishop Jose Cardoso Sobrinho of Olinda and Recife announced. "So when a human law ... is contrary to God's law, this human law has no value."

Apparently he's unfamiliar with Romans 13. According to the Bible, the government is put there by God and obeying the law of the land is tantamount to obeying God's law.
 
2015-05-07 11:11:32 AM  
Catherine's Francis' flying squad?

/obscure to non-history buffs
 
2015-05-07 11:11:44 AM  

shut_it_down: grumpfuff: Saying abortion can be forgiven is a HUGE change.

If I remember Catholic school correctly, the only unforgivable sin is the renunciation of the Holy Spirit.


I think that's Mormonism.
 
2015-05-07 11:13:01 AM  

Cthulhu Theory: This is funny, from the article:
"God's law is above any human law," Archbishop Jose Cardoso Sobrinho of Olinda and Recife announced. "So when a human law ... is contrary to God's law, this human law has no value."

Apparently he's unfamiliar with Romans 13. According to the Bible, the government is put there by God and obeying the law of the land is tantamount to obeying God's law.


Anyone who say's their god's law is above human law should remove themselves from humanity and go live with their god.
 
2015-05-07 11:13:02 AM  

plushpuppy: Why would I need forgiveness for a medical procedure?


Because you voluntarily belong to a religion that claims it's *not* just a medical procedure?

People who think that abortion is murder probably think the forgiveness is necessary.  I expect people who think abortion is just like getting a mole removed probably think that needing the church's forgiveness for anything is always unnecessary.

If you have decided to have an abortion without renouncing your Catholicism this is probably a pretty big deal.
 
2015-05-07 11:13:05 AM  

grumpfuff: shut_it_down: grumpfuff: Saying abortion can be forgiven is a HUGE change.

If I remember Catholic school correctly, the only unforgivable sin is the renunciation of the Holy Spirit.

thaylin: shut_it_down: grumpfuff: Saying abortion can be forgiven is a HUGE change.

If I remember Catholic school correctly, the only unforgivable sin is the renunciation of the Holy Spirit.

I thought it was suicide.

Both of those are unforgivable, and up til now abortion as as well. There are a few more I can't recall off the top of my head.


A lot of us who have had an abortion do not feel the need to BE forgiven. But hey, whatever promotes any forward change, I suppose.
 
2015-05-07 11:15:57 AM  
so technically, he's following the rules
off the books he's sending people for support

if that's the plan, I can dig it.
first, they can make the galactic arseholes who picket the clinic STFU
 
2015-05-07 11:16:43 AM  

thaylin: TurnerBrown: plushpuppy: Why would I need forgiveness for a medical procedure?

Because it kills another human being?

TurnerBrown: plushpuppy: Why would I need forgiveness for a medical procedure?

Because it kills another human being?


hu·man be·ing
noun
a man, woman, or child of the species  Homo sapiens, distinguished from other animals by superior mental development, power of articulate speech, and upright stance.


Abortion does not kill a man, woman, or child, it kills a fetus, so you are not killing a human being.


OK, can we stop this hyperjustifying bullshiat?  I'm pro-choice and even I see the desperation in this argument.  It's not as simple as "let's remove a wart."  It's a complex issue and this crap doesn't help anyone.
 
2015-05-07 11:16:50 AM  

lindalouwho: grumpfuff: shut_it_down: grumpfuff: Saying abortion can be forgiven is a HUGE change.

If I remember Catholic school correctly, the only unforgivable sin is the renunciation of the Holy Spirit.

thaylin: shut_it_down: grumpfuff: Saying abortion can be forgiven is a HUGE change.

If I remember Catholic school correctly, the only unforgivable sin is the renunciation of the Holy Spirit.

I thought it was suicide.

Both of those are unforgivable, and up til now abortion as as well. There are a few more I can't recall off the top of my head.

A lot of us who have had an abortion do not feel the need to BE forgiven. But hey, whatever promotes any forward change, I suppose.


Oh, no argument there. I wasn't commenting on whether or not people should feel the need to be forgiven, just noticing that, doctrinally speaking, this is one of the biggest shake-ups Francis has done.
 
2015-05-07 11:23:39 AM  
(loud whisper) Don't mention the whore!


/oh wait, that was for the previous pope
//still and all
///neberminds!
 
2015-05-07 11:24:27 AM  

Pocket Ninja: I'm imagining a show with the same basic structure as Law and Order. Whore Squad. It would have two priests -- one a jaded, cynical, almost out of faith borderline alcoholic who nevertheless has an endless capacity for self-sacrifice and empathy; the other young, idealistic, inexperienced and utterly devout but who hasn't yet learned of his own frailties. Each episode is set in a different city around the world: Whore Squad: London. Whore Squad: Budapest. Whore Squad: Atlanta. In each episode they meet a fallen woman who's had an abortion, and over the course of the episode it comes out that her abortion was actually just the tip of the iceberg, that there is some dastardly plot to unravel before she can ever be truly saved. And, over the course of the first season, they start to become aware of stange coincidences between the women's cases. They start hearing whispers, rumors, about the existing of the Boning Man, a mysterious figure who is always one or two steps ahead of them, who circles the globe getting women pregnant as part of some much greater, much more nefarious plot. In each season, the priest duo is drawn deeper and deeper into this international web of mystery, intrigue, and the occult. There could even be some movie crossover potential.


If Boning Man's antics get a lot of screentime, you can call it the XXX-Files.
 
2015-05-07 11:28:57 AM  

grumpfuff: lindalouwho: grumpfuff: shut_it_down: grumpfuff: Saying abortion can be forgiven is a HUGE change.

If I remember Catholic school correctly, the only unforgivable sin is the renunciation of the Holy Spirit.

thaylin: shut_it_down: grumpfuff: Saying abortion can be forgiven is a HUGE change.

If I remember Catholic school correctly, the only unforgivable sin is the renunciation of the Holy Spirit.

I thought it was suicide.

Both of those are unforgivable, and up til now abortion as as well. There are a few more I can't recall off the top of my head.

A lot of us who have had an abortion do not feel the need to BE forgiven. But hey, whatever promotes any forward change, I suppose.

Oh, no argument there. I wasn't commenting on whether or not people should feel the need to be forgiven, just noticing that, doctrinally speaking, this is one of the biggest shake-ups Francis has done.


Yes, that's true.
Though I also have to say, my boyfriend at the time and I both would say that WE had an abortion. I'll just let that idea sit there...
 
2015-05-07 11:33:31 AM  
Yeah, I think you can just go to confession and confess this sin of abortion (if you are Catholic, it is a sin, whether I believe it or not). I know this from personal experience with two friends, a cousin, and a family friend, that had abortions and subsequently went to confession and were able to participate in other sacraments, including Holy Matrimony Communion.   Anyway,  that's the USA Catholic church, maybe clergy in other countries see it differently, hence the need for the stormtroopers.
 
Displayed 50 of 106 comments


Oldest | « | 1 | 2 | 3 | » | Newest | Show all


View Voting Results: Smartest and Funniest

This thread is archived, and closed to new comments.

Continue Farking




On Twitter


  1. Links are submitted by members of the Fark community.

  2. When community members submit a link, they also write a custom headline for the story.

  3. Other Farkers comment on the links. This is the number of comments. Click here to read them.

  4. Click here to submit a link.