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2015-02-09 9:08:40 PM  

Gyro the Greek Sandwich Pirate: As published in the noted scientific journal The Daily Mail.


In the future, it's highly regarded, particularly the scientist profiles they publish on page 3.
 
2015-02-09 9:10:57 PM  

FourDirections: ytiralugnis eht hcaer lliw ydaerla evah ew dna emit gnol a rof no gniog neeb sah sihT


In a thousand years, Gandahar was destroyed, and and all its people massacred. A thousand years ago, Gandahar will be saved, and what can't be avoided will be.
 
2015-02-09 9:15:39 PM  

DubtodaIll: This provides just as much evidence that humans possess the ability to consciously affect matter as it does for time travel.


There should be be a mathematical description of paying attention to, decisions, observations, etc.

What happens if two people examine a particle simultaneously?

Why does the corner of the kitchen counter by the coffee machine smell like nutmeg?
 
2015-02-10 8:23:54 AM  
Will quantum physics rip off pensioners?
 
2015-02-10 8:35:54 AM  
I am so glad I took Quantum Mechanics 30 years ago...when it still sort of, almost made sense. But I guess not understanding it now means I didn't know it then, or maybe I did.
 
2015-02-10 8:45:51 AM  
ce headline, subby. Ni
 
2015-02-10 8:53:33 AM  
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2015-02-10 9:01:18 AM  
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2015-02-10 9:05:25 AM  
As published in the noted scientific journal The Daily Mail.
 
2015-02-10 9:08:39 AM  
ytiralugnis eht hcaer lliw ydaerla evah ew dna emit gnol a rof no gniog neeb sah sihT
 
2015-02-10 9:08:47 AM  
What happened, happened.
 
2015-02-10 9:09:14 AM  
Maybe into the future...but the past, nah.
 
2015-02-10 9:09:48 AM  
This provides just as much evidence that humans possess the ability to consciously affect matter as it does for time travel.
 
2015-02-10 9:11:48 AM  
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2015-02-10 9:12:33 AM  
Is this a repeat?
 
2015-02-10 9:12:45 AM  
Boobies!
 
2015-02-10 9:12:47 AM  
One huge factor though is we are limited by human perception of the whole thing. It may be reasonable that we simply do not have the ability to conceive of states outside of our linear and temporal existence.
 
2015-02-10 9:15:16 AM  
Scientists probed the quantum mechanical properties of single particles
The particles don't have a fixed state until they are observed by scientist
Study found knowing future outcome of particle also changes initial state
They believe particles change their state due to scientist's knowledge
This suggests that time could runs both backwards and forwards
If this proves true, it could mean that we're doing now has been influenced by the decision made by a future version of us, the study claims

 

I see no reason to believe this was somehow wildly misunderstood or misreported by the Daily Mail.
 
2015-02-10 9:15:44 AM  
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Flobadob, blib blob bleeb.
 
2015-02-10 9:15:54 AM  
Boobies
Last post
 
2015-02-10 9:17:10 AM  
Good job on the headline. Don't know the entire details, but that article is written horribly regarding the subject.
 
2015-02-10 9:20:17 AM  
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2015-02-10 9:20:26 AM  
I think reading this article just now is the cause of all that time I spent getting high in college twenty years ago.
 
2015-02-10 9:22:19 AM  
This thread should run backwards
 
2015-02-10 9:24:59 AM  
Heck, just fly into a wormhole and grab the chicken puppet.
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2015-02-10 9:27:09 AM  

KingKauff: This thread should run backwards


It is moving backwards. Or maybe I'm moving backwards through time and the thread is moving forward? Eh, it's all relative.
 
2015-02-10 9:27:25 AM  
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2015-02-10 9:28:39 AM  
They proposed that at the moment of the Big Bang (illustrated), a 'mirror universe' to our own was created that moves in the opposite direction through time - and intelligent beings in each one would perceive the other to be moving backwards

Been done. Or, if you prefer, will be done.
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2015-02-10 9:30:55 AM  
Boobies!
 
2015-02-10 9:31:25 AM  
It worked!

 
2015-02-10 9:31:32 AM  
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Not for everyone.
 
2015-02-10 9:32:17 AM  
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2015-02-10 9:33:10 AM  

tlenon: One huge factor though is we are limited by human perception of the whole thing. It may be reasonable that we simply do not have the ability to conceive of states outside of our linear and temporal existence.


Yea, it would be a nonconceptual state of unconditioned existence, not limited or held within time or space. But time and space, our universe and even all experiences...would be occurring within that unchanging 'state'.
 
2015-02-10 9:34:03 AM  
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2015-02-10 9:35:41 AM  

physt: It worked!


I'm going to change my user name to physt and then go back in time and post on Fark!!
 
2015-02-10 9:36:48 AM  
Is someone going to post the winning Powerball numbers for tomorrow? I know one of you bastards has them.
 
2015-02-10 9:37:26 AM  
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Heck, I'm just excited all the old episodes are on Hulu+
 
2015-02-10 9:40:43 AM  
I'm going to see if I can time travel in fark thread. Hang on...
 
2015-02-10 9:41:02 AM  
honestly, the really tough part about time travel will be sorting out the proper grammar, especially when you've run into yourself.
 
2015-02-10 9:41:49 AM  
Death comes to all who wait.
 
2015-02-10 9:43:22 AM  
Does that mean we'll get better whiskey sooner?
 
2015-02-10 9:44:23 AM  
Ha! perfect opportunity to re-post my transcription of a song:

Back in yonder's world

Standing like old sentinels of some long and bygone war,
a gateway of cedar trees from home leads afar.
They say the clocks run backward,
time's banners, they stand furled.
And yesterday's tomorrow,
Back in Yonder's world.

As I awoke one morning in a ditch beside the way,
Drowned in demonic dreams and the wine of yesterday.
Thinking on my wasted life did my spirit go,
when a team of horses I did spy comin' over the road.
"Where are you travelin' sir?" I did inquire.
"Where is your wagon bound, and are you for hire?"
"Your clothes are all ragged, your shoes they are worn.
Why do you gaze on me with amusement and scorn?"
"I've traveled through the swamps my boy, and the mountains rusty red.
Up and across the great high plains my journey it has led.
Turn yourself around my boy, in the strength of your youth.
Set not upon the road of lies, but the pathway of truth."
[Guitar solo]
"We meet upon this rutted road in the grey light of day.
I'm traveling up and across the fields, you're going the wrong way."
Then speaking to his horses and lifting up the reins,
He drove between the twisted trees with a jingling of the chains.
To the summit of that grassy hill so swiftly I did go,
and gazed across the raged brush to the dusty road below.
The wagon and the tired old man nowhere could I see,
and I wondered if his yonder's world was called "Eternity".

Standing like old sentinels of some long and bygone war,
a gateway of cedar trees from home leads afar.
They say the clocks run backward,
time's banners, they stand furled.
And yesterday's tomorrow,
Back in Yonder's world.

Yes, the clocks they all run backward,
Time's banners, they stand furled.
And a man might live forever,
back in Yonder's world.


/reposted from an old fark thread as other transcriptions don't seem to exist.
 
2015-02-10 9:44:41 AM  
submtted ths wth a better headlne tomorrow.
 
2015-02-10 9:46:34 AM  
So, Daily Mail is science fail, let's see what they're actually blathering on about. Ah, here we go.

PhysNow has a good article: In the Feb. 13 issue of Physical Review Letters, Kater Murch describes a way to narrow the odds. By combining information about a quantum system's evolution after a target time with information about its evolution up to that time, his lab was able to narrow the odds of correctly guessing the state of the two-state system from 50-50 to 90-10.

Basically, this guy takes weak measurements of a qubit, takes a strong measurement but doesn't look at it, then takes weak measurements after the strong measurement, and could predict the results of the strong measurement 90% of the time. It's like a card trick where the magician shuffles the deck, has you draw a card and put it back in the deck without him looking, then shuffles again and says "Is that your card?" Except in this case, the card is the quantum state of a qubit, and the magician is a physicist who gets it right 90% of the time.
Pretty impressive, but nobody's in any danger of violating IATT Bulletin 1147 any time soon.
 
2015-02-10 9:47:28 AM  
FTA: "Professor Murch told Dailymail.com that it's as if you left your keys somewhere in the house, but couldn't remember where. In the quantum world, they could exist in every room of the house simultaneously.
When you eventually find them in the kitchen, in the classical world it is clear that they were there all along,"

No....they didn't exist until you found them.
 
2015-02-10 9:47:54 AM  
Don't worry guys. This picture will explain everything.
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2015-02-10 9:49:10 AM  
Daily Mail? I will wait confirmation by Dr. Sheldon Cooper on a special episode of the Big Bang Theory.
 
2015-02-10 9:49:48 AM  
...so we're that much closer to the "instant home movies" thing introduced in Spaceballs?
 
2015-02-10 9:52:35 AM  

phyrkrakr: So, Daily Mail is science fail, let's see what they're actually blathering on about. Ah, here we go.

PhysNow has a good article: In the Feb. 13 issue of Physical Review Letters, Kater Murch describes a way to narrow the odds. By combining information about a quantum system's evolution after a target time with information about its evolution up to that time, his lab was able to narrow the odds of correctly guessing the state of the two-state system from 50-50 to 90-10.

Basically, this guy takes weak measurements of a qubit, takes a strong measurement but doesn't look at it, then takes weak measurements after the strong measurement, and could predict the results of the strong measurement 90% of the time. It's like a card trick where the magician shuffles the deck, has you draw a card and put it back in the deck without him looking, then shuffles again and says "Is that your card?" Except in this case, the card is the quantum state of a qubit, and the magician is a physicist who gets it right 90% of the time.
Pretty impressive, but nobody's in any danger of violating IATT Bulletin 1147 any time soon.


So there's no possibility I will ever be able to tell my younger self not to marry my ex?
 
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