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(Cracked)   Duude--**pfft**--if you watch The Wizard of Oz and listen to Dark Side of the Moon, they totally match up. **pfft** It's also all about how farmers in Kansas wanted Washington to keep the dollar on the gold standard back in the 1930s **pfft**   (cracked.com) divider line
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2014-12-28 3:45:28 PM  
Old Cracked photoplasty is old.
 
2014-12-28 4:58:40 PM  
Dude, The Wizard of Oz books were written in the 1890s - 1900s, but the Gold vs Silver debates were going on at that time.
 
2014-12-28 5:54:51 PM  
Translation:  Look at all this shiat I made up because I want you to see how smart I think I am.

Try harder, it's not working.
 
2014-12-28 5:55:50 PM  
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2014-12-28 6:05:01 PM  

teto85: Dude, The Wizard of Oz books were written in the 1890s - 1900s, but the Gold vs Silver debates were going on at that time.


This is actually really old news. I remember talking about this in high school, and you don't even want to know how long ago that was.

And it's pretty obvious, at that.
 
2014-12-28 6:10:50 PM  
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2014-12-28 6:15:03 PM  
How many of these are actual author intent and how much is critical navel gazing?
 
2014-12-28 6:17:12 PM  
Someone already mentioned it was the silver vs gold debates at the turn of the century (e.g., Bryan's "Cross of Gold" speech), so I'll just mention that we had no intention of leaving the gold standard in the Thirties, and it's what made the Depression worse.
 
2014-12-28 6:18:37 PM  
Seriously, this shiat again? Cracked is running out of crap to make up, so they have to recycle crap other people made up when Usenet was still a thing?

Almost everything on that list is either painfully stupid or egregiously wrong, apart from the Oz thing which is so thoroughly debunked that even Snopes has an entry for it.

Unless there's Word of God confirming them, I call bullshiat on every single one of these.
 
2014-12-28 6:25:31 PM  
I think I'll split
 
2014-12-28 6:26:08 PM  
my crappy comment over 2.
 
2014-12-28 6:34:21 PM  
Before the Borg, before the Cybermen, there was the Tin Woodsman.
 
2014-12-28 6:41:04 PM  
U2 just announced a world tour.

I'm confused. Do I have to buy tickets, or are they just going to break into my house and start playing?
 
2014-12-28 6:53:18 PM  

MFAWG: teto85: Dude, The Wizard of Oz books were written in the 1890s - 1900s, but the Gold vs Silver debates were going on at that time.

This is actually really old news. I remember talking about this in high school, and you don't even want to know how long ago that was.

And it's pretty obvious, at that.


Baum did not offer any conclusive proof that he intended his novel to be a political allegory. Historian Ranjit S. Dighe wrote that for sixty years after the book's publication, "virtually nobody" had such an interpretation until Henry Littlefield, a high school teacher.[31] In his 1964 American Quarterly article, "The Wizard of Oz: Parable on Populism",[32] Littlefield posited that the book contained an allegory of the late 19th-century bimetallism debate regarding monetary policy.[33] At the beginning of the novel, Dorothy is swept from her farm to Oz by a cyclone, which was frequently compared to the Free Silver movement in Baum's time.[32] The Yellow Brick Road represents the gold standard and the Silver Shoes which enable Dorothy to travel more comfortably symbolizes the Populist Party's desire to construct a bimetallic standard of both gold and silver in place of the gold standard. She learns that to return home, she must reach the Emerald City, Oz's political center, to speak to the Wizard, representing the President of the United States.[32] While journeying to the Emerald City, she encounters a scarecrow, who represents a farmer; a woodman made of tin, who represents a worker dehumanized by industrialization; and a cowardly lion, who represents William Jennings Bryan, a prominent leader of the Silverite movement.[34] The villains of the story, the Wicked Witch of the West and the Wicked Witch of the East, represent the wealthy railroad and oil barons of the American West and the financial and banking interests of the eastern U.S. respectively. Both these groups opposed Populist efforts to move the U.S. to a bimetallic monetary standard since this would have devalued the dollar and made investments less valuable. Workers and poor farmers supported the move away from the gold standard as this would have lessened their crushing debt burdens. The Populist party sought to build a coalition of southern and midwestern tenant farmers and northern industrial workers. These groups are represented in the book by the Good Witches of the North and South. "Oz" is the abbreviated form of ounce, a standard measure of gold.[35]

Littlefield's thesis achieved some popular interest and elaboration[36] but is not taken seriously by literary historians.[citation needed] Littlefield's argument was taken seriously by the 1980s by many political scientists but has since been refuted.
 
2014-12-28 7:10:47 PM  
Cecil Adams pretty much destroyed that "Oz as populaism" argument in 1983, and a further scholarly paper from 1994 nailed the coffin lid down.

Most obviously, Baum was a Republican and wrote  against populism and wrote:

When McKinley gets the chair (i.e., is elected), boys,
There'll be a jollification
Throughout our happy nation
And contentment everywhere!
Great will be our satisfaction
When the "honest money" faction
Seats McKinley in the chair!
 
2014-12-28 7:17:44 PM  
Bravo subby posting a link to the last page of article!
 
2014-12-28 7:37:58 PM  
L Frank Baum actually supported the silver movement.  The allegory is that silver will safely carry you over the gold path and silver will protect you with its power.  Those supporting the gold standard were aware of the power of silver and thus were trying to take it away from Dorothy.  In the end Dorothy returns to Kansas but without the silver slippers.
 
2014-12-28 7:38:39 PM  
Is subby supposed to be farting while speaking the headline or something?
 
2014-12-28 8:40:09 PM  

GungFu: True Facts:

1. The Cowardly Lion was based on Frank L. Baum's cat, Tiddles.
2. Somewhere Over the Rainbow was a late addition to the film and was based on a LSD trip as told to the song writers by Judy Garland.
3. The Munchkins were so horny and farking all over the place, the set builders actually made a large house for them to fark in. The same house that fell on the wicked witch of the west. Or was it East?
4. If you sync the opening 20 minutes of the film to Michael Jackson's Thriller, it's a very good masturbation aid.


By the time filming was over, Garland had seen enough of the Munchkins' unsavoury amorous antics to go right off the idea of anything like a relationship.

She said: "They were drunks. They got smashed every night and the police used to scoop them up in butterfly nets."
 
2014-12-28 9:37:55 PM  
But does the old Wonka movie match with the new Primus album?
 
2014-12-28 9:52:16 PM  

GungFu: 3. The Munchkins were so horny and farking all over the place, the set builders actually made a large house for them to fark in. The same house that fell on the wicked witch of the west. Or was it East?


Man, had to stink for the lady under the house, hadn't it?
 
2014-12-28 9:55:28 PM  
 
2014-12-28 10:16:47 PM  

LewDux: Interpret this


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2014-12-28 10:48:39 PM  

czetie: Seriously, this shiat again? Cracked is running out of crap to make up, so they have to recycle crap other people made up when Usenet was still a thing?


I don't get how any of this is cracked's fault. Their readers made the slides and dip-shiat subby had us look at a photoshop contest that's a few years old. It obviously wasn't great, but why be angry at cracked?- their users and subby deserve the derision.
 
2014-12-28 11:51:44 PM  

with great power comes great insanity: U2 just announced a world tour.

I'm confused. Do I have to buy tickets, or are they just going to break into my house and start playing?


No, they won't come unless you ask them to. But paid shills and brainwashed douchebags will still claim that U2 broke into their house.
 
2014-12-29 5:25:07 AM  
Regarding the Dark Side of Oz:

Really, what's going on is that in any frame of film (especially a film as expressive as The Wizard of Oz) there are about a dozen moving things/objects/people/events going on simultaneously. So theoretically, ANY piece of music will sync up with ANY film if you only pay attention to the things that sync up. But for every one that does, there are hundreds of chord progressions, key changes, lyrics, verse/bridges/choruses that pass by with no relation to the film whatsoever. This is what we call sample bias.

The big noticeable one is that the movie fades to color/Oz at the exact moment the album switches to side 2/Money. That is interesting but really just a coincidence. In fact, after that big revelation, the second half of the album has virtually no relation to the film at all. The witch shows up and the music doesn't change (it goes through Money and Us and Them during the Munchkin scene... there are no lyric connections, no chord connections, no spacey Gilmour solo filling in for the Lollipop Guild). And then the rest just falls apart. Any Colour You Like during the Scarecrow scene. And the big, epic, sweeping finale -- Eclipse -- explodes into its fantastic denouement while they're oiling the god damn Tin Man, the most mundane of scenes.

In fact, if anything, it's the limitations of vinyl that sync up with Oz, not that specific album.

It's just a coincidence that Dorothy arrives to Oz around the 23 minute mark of the film. This is the exact maximum length of music that vinyl cutters could squeeze onto one side of a 12" vinyl at 33rpm without some serious compression (so no band could record an album longer than about 45 minutes tops before the advent of tape/digital media). So any band -- especially space rock, psychedelic rock or prog rock bands known for long, sweeping soundscapes and noodling movements and sections that seem to go on forever -- that released an album in the 60s or 70s that filled the vinyl to the brim with music will have side A sync up exactly with Oz. Because one side is always the same length as Dorothy in Kansas.
 
2014-12-29 5:58:43 AM  

Uchiha_Cycliste: czetie: Seriously, this shiat again? Cracked is running out of crap to make up, so they have to recycle crap other people made up when Usenet was still a thing?

I don't get how any of this is cracked's fault. Their readers made the slides and dip-shiat subby had us look at a photoshop contest that's a few years old. It obviously wasn't great, but why be angry at cracked?- their users and subby deserve the derision.


I don't know if this is a serious question, but just in case: my derision, not anger, is directed at Cracked collectively, which includes its publishers, its submitters, its readers, and the content they create/support.
 
2014-12-29 7:14:18 AM  
Published September 4 2013.  Did subby find this on a sidebar ad?
 
2014-12-29 9:24:00 AM  
Yeah, everyone has know about both of those for a very long time. Way to be relevant, subby.

/DSotM only matches up through the 1st playthrough of the album
 
2014-12-29 10:37:06 AM  

doglover: GungFu: True Facts:

1. The Cowardly Lion was based on Frank L. Baum's cat, Tiddles.
2. Somewhere Over the Rainbow was a late addition to the film and was based on a LSD trip as told to the song writers by Judy Garland.
3. The Munchkins were so horny and farking all over the place, the set builders actually made a large house for them to fark in. The same house that fell on the wicked witch of the west. Or was it East?
4. If you sync the opening 20 minutes of the film to Michael Jackson's Thriller, it's a very good masturbation aid.

By the time filming was over, Garland had seen enough of the Munchkins' unsavoury amorous antics to go right off the idea of anything like a relationship.

She said: "They were drunks. They got smashed every night and the police used to scoop them up in butterfly nets."


Judy had a wicked sense of humor, and many Munchkin rumors can be traced back to her.
 
2014-12-29 10:42:39 AM  

MFAWG: teto85: Dude, The Wizard of Oz books were written in the 1890s - 1900s, but the Gold vs Silver debates were going on at that time.

This is actually really old news. I remember talking about this in high school, and you don't even want to know how long ago that was.

And it's pretty obvious, at that.


Eh. It pretty much falls apart when the actual details of the book are taken into account.

Basically, it's just people seeing what they want to see. Sometimes, a pair of slippers is just a pair of slippers. While there are many ways of interpreting it, there is a far cry between that and proclaiming the author's intention, especially when he himself contradicted that claim.
 
2014-12-29 10:57:51 AM  

bingethinker: with great power comes great insanity: U2 just announced a world tour.

I'm confused. Do I have to buy tickets, or are they just going to break into my house and start playing?

No, they won't come unless you ask them to. But paid shills and brainwashed douchebags will still claim that U2 broke into their house.


Paid shills? U-2 employs people to buy up their albums?

You know, that makes a lot of sense.
 
2014-12-29 11:37:35 AM  
The Oz/Populist idea has had plenty of pinholes thrust into its balloon - but the 2nd Oz Book (Marvelous Land if Oz) is a little bit more straightforward in regards to allegorical themes.

In it a boy is kept as a slave by an evil witch - but ultimately discovers that he is actually the rightful heir to the throne of Oz, is a powerful magician in his own right, and is actually a girl who had been transformed into a boy to hide her origins. The boy is transformed back into a girl, and regains her powers and is installed as the ruler of Oz - Ozma. (There is a subplot where an all-female army stages a coup against the Scarecrow).

Baum was an active supporter of the Suffragette movement - serving as secretary for his local chapter, his Mother-in-Law was a very prominent member (as was his wife - unsurprisingly). One of his residences is on the register of historic places - not because of his contributions to literature, but to his family's contributions to the movement.

Ozma is a pretty clear allegorical character for women's empowerment/liberation, and moreso that they can gain their power not by emulating men - but as women. The latter is a particularly interesting notion that is still a relevant today even after 100+ years of the movement. Many women are encouraged to act more masculine as they accrue power - still embedding power with maleness.
 
2014-12-29 11:44:11 AM  
Departed:

How is it 'foreshadowing' when the guy is already plummeting to his death???
 
2014-12-29 12:11:35 PM  

czetie: Uchiha_Cycliste: czetie: Seriously, this shiat again? Cracked is running out of crap to make up, so they have to recycle crap other people made up when Usenet was still a thing?

I don't get how any of this is cracked's fault. Their readers made the slides and dip-shiat subby had us look at a photoshop contest that's a few years old. It obviously wasn't great, but why be angry at cracked?- their users and subby deserve the derision.

I don't know if this is a serious question, but just in case: my derision, not anger, is directed at Cracked collectively, which includes its publishers, its submitters, its readers, and the content they create/support.


*that* is totally fair I guess.
 
2014-12-29 12:52:30 PM  

Ishkur: Regarding the Dark Side of Oz:

 ...


A childhood friend and I wasted a lot of time back in the day watching random things on TV while listening to music just to see how they'd sync up. Sometimes it worked really well, sometimes it was passable, other times it didn't work at all. But nothing we tried ever came close to syncing as well as Dark Side syncs with The Wizard of Oz, either musically or lyrically.
 
2014-12-29 5:09:08 PM  

Jingle Strangle: Ishkur: Regarding the Dark Side of Oz:

 ...

A childhood friend and I wasted a lot of time back in the day watching random things on TV while listening to music just to see how they'd sync up. Sometimes it worked really well, sometimes it was passable, other times it didn't work at all. But nothing we tried ever came close to syncing as well as Dark Side syncs with The Wizard of Oz, either musically or lyrically.


Plus, the scarecrow flopping around matches up nicely with the lines "The lunatic is on the grass."
 
2014-12-29 5:16:28 PM  

theorellior: Plus, the scarecrow flopping around matches up nicely with the lines "The lunatic is on the grass."


There's a list out there somewhere of all the things that sync between the two and it's really quite remarkable.
 
2014-12-29 5:54:35 PM  

Jingle Strangle: There's a list out there somewhere of all the things that sync between the two and it's really quite remarkable.


There is an even bigger list of all the things that don't sync up and it's not the slightest bit remarkable at all.
 
2014-12-29 7:18:36 PM  
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Peter Griffin: I'm telling you, Dark Side of the Moon totally syncs up with The Wizard of Oz.
Luke Perry: Really? Shannen Doherty told me that once, but I thought she was just being a b*tch.
 
2014-12-29 7:41:30 PM  
I'm so sick of this myth.

The Wizard of OZ being an allegory for the Silver and Gold standards among other political issues at the time is an urban myth. Discussions of this symbolism didn't surface until the 60s as a way for a professor of of American history to engage his students. Frank M Baum was an extensive writer and worked and reworked the Oz franchise not just in books but in film and stage as well. There is not one note or quote from him anywhere to betray any historical allegory or symbolism.
 
2014-12-29 8:14:46 PM  

LemSkroob: Departed:

How is it 'foreshadowing' when the guy is already plummeting to his death???


He's not dead yet - foreshadowing!
 
2014-12-29 8:37:09 PM  

Ishkur: Jingle Strangle: There's a list out there somewhere of all the things that sync between the two and it's really quite remarkable.

There is an even bigger list of all the things that don't sync up and it's not the slightest bit remarkable at all.


Or you could just remove that poker from your ass and lighten up a little.
 
2014-12-29 10:55:22 PM  

Jingle Strangle: Ishkur: Regarding the Dark Side of Oz:

 ...

A childhood friend and I wasted a lot of time back in the day watching random things on TV while listening to music just to see how they'd sync up. Sometimes it worked really well, sometimes it was passable, other times it didn't work at all. But nothing we tried ever came close to syncing as well as Dark Side syncs with The Wizard of Oz, either musically or lyrically.


Try Echoes with an undersea documentary.
 
2014-12-29 11:34:22 PM  
a painting in M's office of a warship in it's prime

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2014-12-29 11:35:23 PM  

Ishkur: The big noticeable one is that the movie fades to color/Oz at the exact moment the album switches to side 2/Money. That is interesting but really just a coincidence. In fact, after that big revelation, the second half of the album has virtually no relation to the film at all


By that time, you're too stoned to care.
 
2014-12-30 3:40:15 AM  

saturn badger: Try Echoes with an undersea documentary.


Echoes syncs up perfectly with the Jupiter and Beyond segment from 2001.

Because that's what it was primarily composed for..... before Kubrick pulled the plug at the last minute.
 
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