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(The Federalist)   Somebody seriously needs to stage an intervention for Neil deGrasse Tyson. He just keeps making stuff up   ( thefederalist.com) divider line
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2014-09-17 12:04:29 AM  
Great strategy: if you don't like the overarching ideas, just get extremely petty and nitpicky in a pathetic attempt to discredit the person delivering them.

"The good thing about science is that it's true whether or not you believe in it." -- Neil deGrasse Tyson

So even if he completely made up his allegories or anecdotes (which I highly doubt) so what? He is not presenting those as facts, just ways to illustrate his larger points - points which these people have no response to so they resort to just these kind of diversionary attacks.
 
2014-09-17 12:11:42 AM  
As opposed to the virtual Mt. Everest of bullsh*t conservatives make up?
 
2014-09-17 12:23:45 AM  
You know, not for nothing but Bush was very firm in his message that Muslims shouldn't be blamed for 9/11. It was one of the few things I actually admired about him.
 
2014-09-17 12:25:59 AM  

joshiz: "The good thing about science is that it's true whether or not you believe in it." -- Neil deGrasse Tyson


Clearly you both have never heard of the placebo effect; it is directly correlated with belief.  This is the same dynamic that makes people think the article they've just read is journalism.
 
2014-09-17 01:27:47 AM  
This guy's butthurt is so bad that it makes my butt hurt. Who cares whether NDT got the details right or not?

Bush's belief about the intentions of his personal completely imaginary sky wizard don't really matter in the grand scheme, do they?

Reality wins, no matter what we think about it, which is probably NDT's point.
 
2014-09-17 01:31:41 AM  
The very punchable author's face:
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2014-09-17 01:45:27 AM  

ecmoRandomNumbers: The very punchable author's face:
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Where does the line to punch him form?
 
2014-09-17 01:55:50 AM  
I dozed off less than a quarter of the way through this whining.

Wake me up when any of it gains any relevance.
 
2014-09-17 01:56:28 AM  

ecmoRandomNumbers: The very punchable author's face:
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I don't think he has a punchable face.  But he might be enjoyable to corrupt to sin, if one were so inclined.
 
2014-09-17 02:28:14 AM  

Ambivalence: ecmoRandomNumbers: The very punchable author's face:
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I don't think he has a punchable face.  But he might be enjoyable to corrupt to sin, if one were so inclined.


Always inclined to sin, but that's not the face I'd choose. EIP.
 
2014-09-17 04:19:05 AM  
Another example of someone with zero understanding of science unwilling to learn that, but spout on about 9/11, God, and Bush like an expert.
 
2014-09-17 07:05:37 AM  

MrBallou: Ambivalence: ecmoRandomNumbers: The very punchable author's face:
[img.fark.net image 390x412]

I don't think he has a punchable face.  But he might be enjoyable to corrupt to sin, if one were so inclined.

Always inclined to sin, but that's not the face I'd choose. EIP.


Is this like a Craigslist thing?
 
2014-09-17 07:12:30 AM  
"Our god is the god who named the stars." - George W BushRAND PAUL
 
2014-09-17 07:36:50 AM  

MrBallou: Who cares whether NDT got the details right or not?


I kind of do. It's lazy attribution to say "newspaper headline" and a scientist should cite his sources better.

Does that have any bearing on the message? Not one whit.
 
2014-09-17 07:43:14 AM  
Tyson is a whiney arrogant coont but holy hell is this author butthurt about him. Go outside dude. I can't even imagine how much time it took to dig out all those references to put that pos series together
 
2014-09-17 07:55:17 AM  
Is this one of those "We get it, he's black" moments?
 
2014-09-17 08:02:44 AM  

ginandbacon: You know, not for nothing but Bush was very firm in his message that Muslims shouldn't be blamed for 9/11. It was one of the few things I actually admired about him.


And then he called the war on terror a crusade and farked up all that hard work trying to convince the Mid East that it wasn't all a Muslim vs Christians thing. Even when he did something right, he did something stupid and farked it all up.
 
2014-09-17 08:07:30 AM  
9/11 was over 13 years ago. Kids in college today were barely learning to read at the time.

I think it's time these weirdos moved on anyway.
 
2014-09-17 08:24:32 AM  

dookdookdook: "Our god is the god who named the stars." - George W BushRAND PAUL


You mean Allah?

Many, if not most, of the star names are in Arabic.
 
2014-09-17 08:27:14 AM  

joshiz: Great strategy: if you don't like the overarching ideas, just get extremely petty and nitpicky in a pathetic attempt to discredit the person delivering them.

"The good thing about science is that it's true whether or not you believe in it." -- Neil deGrasse Tyson

So even if he completely made up his allegories or anecdotes (which I highly doubt) so what? He is not presenting those as facts, just ways to illustrate his larger points - points which these people have no response to so they resort to just these kind of diversionary attacks.


Really? That's the attitude we're going with?

"Who cares about the proof, I like what he says so it's OK."

SCIENCE!
 
2014-09-17 08:29:21 AM  
Article might have been newsworthy if it didn't spend most of it biatching and moaning that NDGT didn't get their mythology right. Sorry that he didn't waste his time becoming a waste of time scholar of imaginary things.

Constantly misrepresenting quotes is stupid though. What's his fark handle?
 
2014-09-17 08:29:48 AM  
Not getting some bible reference right ( Isiah vs Genesis, or something) is excessively nitpicky. (It would be like me getting upset at a Fundamentalist Christian for not having read anything by Voltaire ,Thomas Paine* , or the AD&D "Planescape" campaign sourcebooks )

/ esp. Paine's "The Age of Reason"; lots of things in that one to p*ss off fundamentalists of ALL stripes....
 
2014-09-17 08:33:05 AM  

SundaesChild: Is this one of those "We get it, he's black" moments?


Actually, I think any of that is implied in the article....which is a (gradual) societal improvement, I think.
 
2014-09-17 08:33:06 AM  
Confederalist would be a more appropriate name, I think.
 
2014-09-17 08:33:56 AM  
Professional internet detective is on the case.
 
2014-09-17 08:35:33 AM  

Forbidden Doughnut: Not getting some bible reference right ( Isiah vs Genesis, or something) is excessively nitpicky. (It would be like me getting upset at a Fundamentalist Christian for not having read anything by Voltaire ,Thomas Paine* , or the AD&D "Planescape" campaign sourcebooks )

/ esp. Paine's "The Age of Reason"; lots of things in that one to p*ss off fundamentalists of ALL stripes....


Now hold on a minute - everyone should read about Planescape.  It is quite possibly the best setting for any game I've ever encountered.
 
2014-09-17 08:37:55 AM  
All I got out of that article was "Wah! The scary black man is smarter than me!"
 
2014-09-17 08:38:05 AM  

dookdookdook: "Our god is the god who named the stars." - George W BushRAND PAUL


All praise Annie Jump Cannon
 
2014-09-17 08:39:55 AM  

Karac: Forbidden Doughnut: Not getting some bible reference right ( Isiah vs Genesis, or something) is excessively nitpicky. (It would be like me getting upset at a Fundamentalist Christian for not having read anything by Voltaire ,Thomas Paine* , or the AD&D "Planescape" campaign sourcebooks )

/ esp. Paine's "The Age of Reason"; lots of things in that one to p*ss off fundamentalists of ALL stripes....

Now hold on a minute - everyone should read about Planescape.  It is quite possibly the best setting for any game I've ever encountered.


And just like that I'm looking for a Planescape wikia and holy shiat there's a kickstarter for a sort-of sequel to Torment.
 
2014-09-17 08:40:32 AM  
Don't worry, he will recant on his deathbed.
 
2014-09-17 08:40:32 AM  
I have been making crap up for years.  You go Neil!
 
2014-09-17 08:40:53 AM  

Forbidden Doughnut: (It would be like me getting upset at a Fundamentalist Christian for not having read anything by Voltaire ,Thomas Paine* , or the AD&D "Planescape" campaign sourcebooks )


If your hypothetical fundie said something like "As the great Voltaire once said, 'These are the times that try men's souls'" you'd have the right to get upset.  Because it's wrong.
I like Tyson, but if he said something incorrect he deserves to be called out on it.
 
2014-09-17 08:41:03 AM  

dookdookdook: "Our god is the god who named the stars." - George W BushRAND PAUL

ahem...I think you meant Shia LaBeouf

 
2014-09-17 08:41:21 AM  
So this guys arguement is, "NGT quoted some people; I couldn't find the quotes on the internet, therefore NGT is lying about the quotes."

Additionally, he says that NGT used the rather common joke of "half of all students are below average" as proof thag NGT doesn't understand statistics.

I tried going into some of his links to see his proof; I gave up after the third link that didn't have any.
 
2014-09-17 08:42:26 AM  

give me doughnuts: All I got out of that article was "Wah! The scary black man is smarter than me!"


that's because you are silly.

I noticed stubby couldn't be bothered to think of a creative headline him/herself
 
2014-09-17 08:43:11 AM  

mgshamster: So this guys arguement is, "NGT quoted some people; I couldn't find the quotes on the internet, therefore NGT is lying about the quotes."

Additionally, he says that NGT used the rather common joke of "half of all students are below average" as proof thag NGT doesn't understand statistics.

I tried going into some of his links to see his proof; I gave up after the third link that didn't have any.


Did you check his links for "truthiness" and "gut feelings"?
 
2014-09-17 08:43:26 AM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: As opposed to the virtual Mt. Everest of bullsh*t conservatives make up?


finger pointer
 
2014-09-17 08:43:42 AM  
Haha, I clicked through to one of his other complaint articles on NGT (he has a whole series).

But anyway, he's arguing the definition of average, and he actually uses the words: "BUT NOT ALL DISTRIBUTIONS".

Dude is white nighting statistics.
 
2014-09-17 08:43:57 AM  

albatros183: dookdookdook: "Our god is the god who named the stars." - George W BushRAND PAUL

All praise Annie Jump Cannon


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Though, she more organized than named them.
 
2014-09-17 08:44:57 AM  
I wish good scientists like deGrasse-Tyson would stay out of politics.  It does them no credit to stretch the facts (or make them up) when there is plenty of actual facts to beat Republicans with.
 
2014-09-17 08:45:20 AM  
The guy is technically right.  And you know what that means...
 
2014-09-17 08:45:48 AM  

Karac: Forbidden Doughnut: Not getting some bible reference right ( Isiah vs Genesis, or something) is excessively nitpicky. (It would be like me getting upset at a Fundamentalist Christian for not having read anything by Voltaire ,Thomas Paine* , or the AD&D "Planescape" campaign sourcebooks )

/ esp. Paine's "The Age of Reason"; lots of things in that one to p*ss off fundamentalists of ALL stripes....

Now hold on a minute - everyone should read about Planescape.  It is quite possibly the best setting for any game I've ever encountered.


Planescape: Torment is farking awesome.

We used to play a bunch of spelljammers when I was a kid.  That was a pretty sweet campaign setting as well.
 
2014-09-17 08:45:59 AM  
Poster boy for terminal right-wing vaginitis Sean Davis was an economic policy adviser to Governor Rick Perry.

How many apoplectic blog posts do you suppose he's written about all the times his pal Perry's been wrong?
 
2014-09-17 08:46:44 AM  

NickelP: Tyson is a whiney arrogant coont


...like all scientists and atheists, amiriteoramirite.

/Can't tell Tyson and Richard Dawkins apart, can you?
 
2014-09-17 08:47:23 AM  
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2014-09-17 08:47:28 AM  
He's thinks he's so smart, but this girl that friendzoned me tweeted and W was way whiter than Neil Degrasse 0bama and also Jesus told fewer lies.
 
2014-09-17 08:47:57 AM  
Ok he slightly misquoted a moran.  Doesn't matter, science is still real.
 
2014-09-17 08:49:04 AM  

nmrsnr: MrBallou: Who cares whether NDT got the details right or not?

I kind of do. It's lazy attribution to say "newspaper headline" and a scientist should cite his sources better.

Does that have any bearing on the message? Not one whit.


I don't think that this that big of deal but I do agree that as a scientist you would think that he would have done better at getting the facts / details  correct?
 
2014-09-17 08:49:36 AM  

nekom: Ok he slightly misquoted a moran.  Doesn't matter, science is still real.


That is why I just go with They Might Be Giants.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ty33v7UYYbw
 
2014-09-17 08:49:46 AM  

Karac: Karac: Forbidden Doughnut: Not getting some bible reference right ( Isiah vs Genesis, or something) is excessively nitpicky. (It would be like me getting upset at a Fundamentalist Christian for not having read anything by Voltaire ,Thomas Paine* , or the AD&D "Planescape" campaign sourcebooks )

/ esp. Paine's "The Age of Reason"; lots of things in that one to p*ss off fundamentalists of ALL stripes....

Now hold on a minute - everyone should read about Planescape.  It is quite possibly the best setting for any game I've ever encountered.

And just like that I'm looking for a Planescape wikia and holy shiat there's a kickstarter for a sort-of sequel to Torment.


Yeah.  It's too bad that the setting seems to be more of a standard science magic fantasy, rather than the straight absurdity of Planescape.  I think they'll do a good job of it, but I don't think it will be quite as memorable.

There's also a Baldur's Gate type game coming out too.   Pillars of Eternity. It's being developed by Obsidian.
 
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