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(Chicago Sun-Times)   It's time once again for your updated Weekend Chicago Shooting Tracker, and things were relatively quiet this weekend, with only nineteen people getting shot, though once again a child was the victim of indiscriminate gang violence in Chiraq   ( voices.suntimes.com) divider line
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dittybopper [recently expired TotalFark]
2014-07-27 12:34:51 PM  
Chirac is a worm.
 
revrendjim [TotalFark]
2014-07-27 01:48:17 PM  
This Chicago shooting meme is a good indicator of people who are bad at math, Yes, Chicago has more murders than other cities, but it also has more people. The fairest comparison is the per-capita homicide rate, and if you look at that you see there are 12 US cities with homicide rates higher than Chicago. Statistically, you are far more likely to be killed in New Orleans than in Chicago, but when people thing of New Orleans they think of fun, food, and the lingering odor of stale urine. Of course in New Orleans, as in Chicago, the murdering is largely confined to certain areas, areas that the prudent traveler would be wise to avoid.

I might be a little defensive because I was born and raised in Chicago, but I really don't remember getting shot all that often.
 
cameroncrazy1984 [TotalFark]
2014-07-27 02:17:08 PM  
Stop trying to make fetch happen, subby.
 
Mugato [TotalFark]
2014-07-27 03:47:20 PM  

revrendjim: The fairest comparison is the per-capita homicide rate, and if you look at that you see there are 12 US cities with homicide rates higher than Chicago


They should post that in front of City Hall.
 
OregonVet
2014-07-27 03:51:38 PM  

revrendjim: the murdering is largely confined to certain areas, areas that the prudent traveler would be wise to avoid.


Thanks for the tip. Everything is fine then.
 
hardinparamedic
2014-07-27 04:24:20 PM  
The war in Chiraq is wrong! WRONG!
 
stirfrybry
2014-07-27 04:24:49 PM  

revrendjim: This Chicago shooting meme is a good indicator of people who are bad at math, Yes, Chicago has more murders than other cities, but it also has more people. The fairest comparison is the per-capita homicide rate, and if you look at that you see there are 12 US cities with homicide rates higher than Chicago. Statistically, you are far more likely to be killed in New Orleans than in Chicago, but when people thing of New Orleans they think of fun, food, and the lingering odor of stale urine. Of course in New Orleans, as in Chicago, the murdering is largely confined to certain areas, areas that the prudent traveler would be wise to avoid.

I might be a little defensive because I was born and raised in Chicago, but I really don't remember getting shot all that often.


two words: Gun Ban
 
Warmnight
2014-07-27 04:24:54 PM  
Bring public executions. I don't care if you think uncivilized. It is necessary to cull these gangs.
 
Nina_Hartley's_Ass
2014-07-27 04:29:01 PM  
Again, reinforcing the argument for increased federal regulation.

Thanks subby.
 
Nick Nostril
2014-07-27 04:31:17 PM  
Maybe he interrupted their game of blahck jacques in Chiraq?
 
Resident Muslim
2014-07-27 04:35:25 PM  

dittybopper: Chirac is a worm.


The French former president?

/preferred Chicagistan
 
Nabb1
2014-07-27 04:38:05 PM  

revrendjim: This Chicago shooting meme is a good indicator of people who are bad at math, Yes, Chicago has more murders than other cities, but it also has more people. The fairest comparison is the per-capita homicide rate, and if you look at that you see there are 12 US cities with homicide rates higher than Chicago. Statistically, you are far more likely to be killed in New Orleans than in Chicago, but when people thing of New Orleans they think of fun, food, and the lingering odor of stale urine. Of course in New Orleans, as in Chicago, the murdering is largely confined to certain areas, areas that the prudent traveler would be wise to avoid.

I might be a little defensive because I was born and raised in Chicago, but I really don't remember getting shot all that often.


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We haven't had any shooting deaths this weekend AFAIK. Nothing on local news stations, anyway.
 
Abox
2014-07-27 04:38:09 PM  

revrendjim: This Chicago shooting meme is a good indicator of people who are bad at math


It's just something for the right to wank to.
 
HMS_Blinkin
2014-07-27 04:39:00 PM  

revrendjim: This Chicago shooting meme is a good indicator of people who are bad at math, Yes, Chicago has more murders than other cities, but it also has more people. The fairest comparison is the per-capita homicide rate, and if you look at that you see there are 12 US cities with homicide rates higher than Chicago. Statistically, you are far more likely to be killed in New Orleans than in Chicago, but when people thing of New Orleans they think of fun, food, and the lingering odor of stale urine. Of course in New Orleans, as in Chicago, the murdering is largely confined to certain areas, areas that the prudent traveler would be wise to avoid.

I might be a little defensive because I was born and raised in Chicago, but I really don't remember getting shot all that often.


Yeah, we had an article on Fark about that kinda recently. Relative to population, Chicago is pretty average among big American cities. I'm not saying that that's a good thing, because our cities as a whole are too violent, but I don't get the Chicago fixation recently.
 
Whatchoo Talkinbout
2014-07-27 04:39:07 PM  
WTF? They run outta ammo?
 
the_vegetarian_cannibal
2014-07-27 04:39:09 PM  
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OH HAY GUYS WHATS GOING ON IN THIS THREAD?

stirfrybry: two words: Gun Ban


Warmnight: Bring public executions. I don't care if you think uncivilized. It is necessary to cull these gangs.


Oh I see.

Always lovely to see white boys who live in the suburbs and have never really stepped foot into a real city shooting their opinions off about issues that they've never actually experienced in real life but think they know better about because the TV news media tells them to be scared.

/lived in both NYC and Chicago, they're really not as bad as people make them out to be
//Detroit, on the other hand, deserves every bit of scorn that it gets
 
oryx
2014-07-27 04:39:42 PM  
Rahm Emanuel  is letting a serious crisis go to waste.
 
Whatchoo Talkinbout
2014-07-27 04:42:15 PM  

revrendjim: Chicago has more murders than other cities, but I really don't remember getting shot all that often.


I can hear 19 people applauding in the background.
 
the_vegetarian_cannibal
2014-07-27 04:44:16 PM  

HMS_Blinkin: revrendjim: This Chicago shooting meme is a good indicator of people who are bad at math, Yes, Chicago has more murders than other cities, but it also has more people. The fairest comparison is the per-capita homicide rate, and if you look at that you see there are 12 US cities with homicide rates higher than Chicago. Statistically, you are far more likely to be killed in New Orleans than in Chicago, but when people thing of New Orleans they think of fun, food, and the lingering odor of stale urine. Of course in New Orleans, as in Chicago, the murdering is largely confined to certain areas, areas that the prudent traveler would be wise to avoid.

I might be a little defensive because I was born and raised in Chicago, but I really don't remember getting shot all that often.

Yeah, we had an article on Fark about that kinda recently. Relative to population, Chicago is pretty average among big American cities. I'm not saying that that's a good thing, because our cities as a whole are too violent, but I don't get the Chicago fixation recently.


It's because Obama is still president right now and he used to live in Chicago. Thus, to the right wing Tea Partiers, anytime a person in Chicago coughs the wrong way, it's an ample opportunity to stick it to the LIBSFASCISTCOMMIENAZISEEKRITMUSLIMFARLEFTLIBTARDFARTBONGO agenda.

Seriously, though. I've been to Chicago numerous times in the pre-Obama presidency era. It was exactly the same back then as it is now. Except that since we have a Chicagoan as president nowadays, it makes for a national news story whenever a violent crime happens.
 
Friction8r
2014-07-27 04:46:29 PM  
This is Obama's city. I guess his "community organizing" wasn't up to snuff. Wait...people are being snuffed. Good jerb then. Thanks Obama!
 
stirfrybry
2014-07-27 04:47:07 PM  
They need to toughen up their gun laws in Chicago. If there's anything that stops crime, it's more laws.
 
the_vegetarian_cannibal
2014-07-27 04:48:32 PM  

Friction8r: This is Obama's city. I guess his "community organizing" wasn't up to snuff. Wait...people are being snuffed. Good jerb then. Thanks Obama!


^^^ See? This is a perfect example of the political derptitude I was talking about in my post.
 
stirfrybry
2014-07-27 04:50:21 PM  
 
odinsposse
2014-07-27 04:51:44 PM  

stirfrybry: They need to toughen up their gun laws in Chicago. If there's anything that stops crime, it's more laws.


Is this sarcasm? Are you trying to link the fact that Illinois and Chicago have dramatically relaxed their gun laws to these shootings?
 
jenlen
2014-07-27 04:52:28 PM  
Sigh.

If only they would ban guns then we would never see any shooting deaths.

When will people learn?

/BAN GUNS NOW!
//MORE LAWS MEANS MORE FREEDOM, or something
 
Mugato [TotalFark]
2014-07-27 04:54:05 PM  

jenlen: Sigh.

If only they would ban guns then we would never see any shooting deaths.

When will people learn?

/BAN GUNS NOW!
//MORE LAWS MEANS MORE FREEDOM, or something


Why is everyone posting the exact same sarcastic snark about gun laws?
 
CreativeFarkHandle
2014-07-27 04:54:59 PM  

the_vegetarian_cannibal: [medias.mensquare.com image 620x430]

OH HAY GUYS WHATS GOING ON IN THIS THREAD?

stirfrybry: two words: Gun Ban

Warmnight: Bring public executions. I don't care if you think uncivilized. It is necessary to cull these gangs.

Oh I see.

Always lovely to see white boys who live in the suburbs and have never really stepped foot into a real city shooting their opinions off about issues that they've never actually experienced in real life but think they know better about because the TV news media tells them to be scared.

/lived in both NYC and Chicago, they're really not as bad as people make them out to be
//Detroit, on the other hand, deserves every bit of scorn that it gets


Came for a Jacques reference, leaving satisfied.
 
topcat68
2014-07-27 04:57:25 PM  
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..Detroit still laughs at their tracker
 
the_vegetarian_cannibal
2014-07-27 04:57:34 PM  

Mugato: jenlen: Sigh.

If only they would ban guns then we would never see any shooting deaths.

When will people learn?

/BAN GUNS NOW!
//MORE LAWS MEANS MORE FREEDOM, or something

Why is everyone posting the exact same sarcastic snark about gun laws?


Because conservatives are incapable of thinking critically beyond the talking points that Rush Limbaugh provides them every week. Why do you ask?
 
Cat Food Sandwiches
2014-07-27 04:59:23 PM  
Sorry a child got shot, but it opens up a slot for a Honduran.
 
jenlen
2014-07-27 05:03:23 PM  

the_vegetarian_cannibal: Mugato: jenlen: Sigh.

If only they would ban guns then we would never see any shooting deaths.

When will people learn?

/BAN GUNS NOW!
//MORE LAWS MEANS MORE FREEDOM, or something

Why is everyone posting the exact same sarcastic snark about gun laws?

Because conservatives are incapable of thinking critically beyond the talking points that Rush Limbaugh provides them every week. Why do you ask?


I am not a conservative by any stretch of the imagination nor do I listen to Rush Limbaugh, sorry.

I happen to think that gun laws are stupid and don't solve the problem they are supposed to solve, so yeah I snark about them. Chicago has (or once had?) the strictest gun laws in the nation and those wonderful gun laws did nothing to stop the murdering.
 
Friction8r
2014-07-27 05:07:49 PM  

the_vegetarian_cannibal: Friction8r: This is Obama's city. I guess his "community organizing" wasn't up to snuff. Wait...people are being snuffed. Good jerb then. Thanks Obama!

^^^ See? This is a perfect example of the political derptitude I was talking about in my post.


No. "Hope and change" was political derptitude. One might think that having a black President from their own community might inspire the gangs to uplift themselves and seek a greater calling. Obviously one would be wrong to think that now. Lost opportunity...sad.
 
ChicagoKev
2014-07-27 05:12:29 PM  

stirfrybry: I might be a little defensive because I was born and raised in Chicago, but I really don't remember getting shot all that often.

two words: Gun Ban


Two more words:  Supreme Court.

I might be a little defensive because I was born in raised in Chicago, and I do remember getting shot at during the height of the gun ban days, when only the cops and other criminals had handguns, and UUW was a felony charge.

The "Chiraq" meme is being supported by both the left and the right -- the democrats want to keep Chicago == Gunshot wounds association in people's minds because they can't have people thinking Chicago's bans on firearms and concealed carry being overturned by the courts has resulted in a decrease in crime and shootings.

And COMPSTAT helps massage crime rates to fit the narrative.
 
Jaden Smith First of His Name
2014-07-27 05:12:57 PM  

Friction8r: No. "Hope and change" was political derptitude. One might think that having a black President from their own community might inspire the gangs to uplift themselves and seek a greater calling. Obviously one would be wrong to think that now. Lost opportunity...sad.


I lament the poor white trash who are still poor white trash after Bill Clinton's inspiring life story.

Why did these rednecks not pull themselves up from their bootstraps and find a greater calling than meth?
 
OregonVet
2014-07-27 05:14:53 PM  

the_vegetarian_cannibal: Because conservatives are incapable of thinking critically beyond the talking points that Rush Limbaugh provides them every week. Why do you ask?


You sound informed. What is the next step? After watching the video above I really think something should be done.
 
p51d007 [TotalFark]
2014-07-27 05:15:11 PM  
Along with this "tracker", (and I know it won't fit the liberal anti-gun agenda), there should be a listing,
if the weapon involved, was LEGAL to possess by the person doing the shooting (if known).
Since Chicago has some of the toughest gun laws, you can bet 90% or more of these shootings are
will ILLEGAL weapons.  Maybe they need some more gun laws in Chicago  HAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
 
hardinparamedic
2014-07-27 05:16:03 PM  
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the_vegetarian_cannibal
2014-07-27 05:17:50 PM  

Friction8r: the_vegetarian_cannibal: Friction8r: This is Obama's city. I guess his "community organizing" wasn't up to snuff. Wait...people are being snuffed. Good jerb then. Thanks Obama!

^^^ See? This is a perfect example of the political derptitude I was talking about in my post.

No. "Hope and change" was political derptitude. One might think that having a black President from their own community might inspire the gangs to uplift themselves and seek a greater calling. Obviously one would be wrong to think that now. Lost opportunity...sad.


Based on your posting history, I know that you grew up in the Denver area (which from experience, is so ridiculously white that the most threatening "gang" in the city are farking Juggalos). And now you live in suburban Tennessee. Have you ever even known any black people in your life aside from reading about them in news stories and/or intermittently seeing one in public?
 
Nabb1
2014-07-27 05:20:29 PM  
Interesting thing about Jacques Chirac and Iraq - in the 1980's, he was a big fan of Saddam Hussein and built the Osirak nuclear plant in Iraq for him. The locals nicknamed it "O-Chirac."
 
CaliNJGuy
2014-07-27 05:20:52 PM  

Cat Food Sandwiches: Sorry a child got shot, but it opens up a slot for a Honduran.


*snicker*
 
hardinparamedic
2014-07-27 05:22:19 PM  

Friction8r: No. "Hope and change" was political derptitude. One might think that having a black President from their own community might inspire the gangs to uplift themselves and seek a greater calling. Obviously one would be wrong to think that now. Lost opportunity...sad.


Dude. You basically live in a gigantic military base with more racial homogeneity than most places in Sweden.

The only knowledge of gangs you guys get up there is when some Austin Pea students get drunk and decide to go cow tipping.
 
Tobin_Lam
2014-07-27 05:22:45 PM  

revrendjim: This Chicago shooting meme is a good indicator of people who are bad at math, Yes, Chicago has more murders than other cities, but it also has more people. The fairest comparison is the per-capita homicide rate, and if you look at that you see there are 12 US cities with homicide rates higher than Chicago. Statistically, you are far more likely to be killed in New Orleans than in Chicago, but when people thing of New Orleans they think of fun, food, and the lingering odor of stale urine. Of course in New Orleans, as in Chicago, the murdering is largely confined to certain areas, areas that the prudent traveler would be wise to avoid.

I might be a little defensive because I was born and raised in Chicago, but I really don't remember getting shot all that often.


It is going to take more than "b-b-b-but math!" to get rid of the "Murder Capitol of the US" title. Chicago is a big city so it must have lots of gun murders! That why New York City has 3 times as many people and, wait a minute, fewer gun murders and LA has a million more people and, uhm, the same number of gun murders. Yes, being a big city must be it!
 
soupafi
2014-07-27 05:23:25 PM  
I'm visiting Chiraq in a few months, where is it safe for tourists so I don't get shot at
 
Mrtraveler01
2014-07-27 05:23:31 PM  

stirfrybry: They need to toughen up their gun laws in Chicago. If there's anything that stops crime, it's more laws.


The gun laws dont make an impact one way or another. If they did, then St. Louis and Detroit would have less crime than Chicago.
 
the_vegetarian_cannibal
2014-07-27 05:23:34 PM  

Nabb1: Interesting thing about Jacques Chirac and Iraq - in the 1980's, he was a big fan of Saddam Hussein and built the Osirak nuclear plant in Iraq for him. The locals nicknamed it "O-Chirac."


You know who else was a fan of Saddam back in the day?

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Yeah sure, the French are shady when it comes to their political dealings. But let's not act holier than though as if we Americans are any better.
 
hardinparamedic
2014-07-27 05:24:35 PM  

soupafi: I'm visiting Chiraq in a few months, where is it safe for tourists so I don't get shot at


Pay attention to the green zones.

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Mrtraveler01
2014-07-27 05:26:16 PM  

Tobin_Lam: revrendjim: This Chicago shooting meme is a good indicator of people who are bad at math, Yes, Chicago has more murders than other cities, but it also has more people. The fairest comparison is the per-capita homicide rate, and if you look at that you see there are 12 US cities with homicide rates higher than Chicago. Statistically, you are far more likely to be killed in New Orleans than in Chicago, but when people thing of New Orleans they think of fun, food, and the lingering odor of stale urine. Of course in New Orleans, as in Chicago, the murdering is largely confined to certain areas, areas that the prudent traveler would be wise to avoid.

I might be a little defensive because I was born and raised in Chicago, but I really don't remember getting shot all that often.

It is going to take more than "b-b-b-but math!" to get rid of the "Murder Capitol of the US" title. Chicago is a big city so it must have lots of gun murders! That why New York City has 3 times as many people and, wait a minute, fewer gun murders and LA has a million more people and, uhm, the same number of gun murders. Yes, being a big city must be it!


If you go by raw numbers it certainly plays a part in it.

I live near St. Louis so I find it adorable when people freak out about the crime in Chicago.
 
OregonVet
2014-07-27 05:26:20 PM  

Friction8r: No. "Hope and change" was political derptitude. One might think that having a black President from their own community might inspire the gangs to uplift themselves and seek a greater calling. Obviously one would be wrong to think that now. Lost opportunity...sad.


Chicago is the next Detroit. Other cities are on the line- probably LA when cities from the East just say fark it I can't afford it anymore. This President has failed on so many levels it makes Carter look like Santa Claus. But if he got one thing right, it should have been violence in America. I get us staying out of Lybia and iraq, all that bullshiat. I would do it too if I had the reigns. But shiat yo- what the farking fark have you done at home?

The house is on fire and he's painting the gotdamn fence.
 
Nabb1
2014-07-27 05:26:21 PM  

the_vegetarian_cannibal: Nabb1: Interesting thing about Jacques Chirac and Iraq - in the 1980's, he was a big fan of Saddam Hussein and built the Osirak nuclear plant in Iraq for him. The locals nicknamed it "O-Chirac."

You know who else was a fan of Saddam back in the day?

[www.commondreams.org image 350x257]

[37.media.tumblr.com image 432x319]

Yeah sure, the French are shady when it comes to their political dealings. But let's not act holier than though as if we Americans are any better.


Easy, fella. Just a bit of historical trivia. Don't get too worked up.
 
zerkalo
2014-07-27 05:27:27 PM  

Whatchoo Talkinbout: revrendjim: Chicago has more murders than other cities, but I really don't remember getting shot all that often.

I can hear 19 people applauding in the background.


Are they Helens?
 
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