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(The Dissolve)   1991's Hot Shots served as toothless popularizer of modern parody movies, which are lazy, supremely unfunny exercises. "There's not a single joke, or even an acknowledgment, of the rampant homoeroticism for which the original film is now infamous"   (thedissolve.com) divider line
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2014-07-21 12:03:22 PM  
Eagle River?
 
2014-07-21 12:18:57 PM  
Sounds like a lot of Farkers are celibate, just like their fathers and their grandfathers before that.
 
2014-07-21 12:19:53 PM  

Scorpitron is reduced to a thin red paste: Hot Shots, Part Deux is much better than the first one.

not Another Teen Movie is actually not bad.

The culprit may be the third Naked Gun and Leslie Nielsen's lamentable cash ins.  Spy Hard, Dracula Dead And Loving It and that lazy garbage.



So many great scenes in Part Deux:

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Gummi Bears, Gummi Bears!
Sprinkles! Sprinkles!
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2014-07-21 12:24:22 PM  

sychosyd_28: Eagle River?


If it helps, I didn't have seconds.
 
2014-07-21 12:24:30 PM  
I think the writers ego is trying to write a check his body can't cash.
 
2014-07-21 12:28:07 PM  

Dwight_Yeast: Hot Shots was worth it for the scene where the Sheens shout "I loved you in 'Wall St'" at each other from passing PT boats.

Otherwise, not as funny as Airplane.


I was out fishing from my kayak on Saturday morning when I started heading in and ended up coming across an 18 foot Boston Whaler coming the other direction as I was headed under a bridge.  Most of my concentration was making sure I wasn't too far into the channel so I wouldn't be near his bow and not too far off where I would get caught on the bridge.

Damned if I can explain why I felt compelled to yell out that line despite my concentration on maneuvering for self-preservation.  The other guy laughed and gave me a thumbs up.

Despite the fact that I want to pan the shiat out of that movie for being the gateway to a ton of largely unfunny parodies we have to put up with now I have to give props that it obviously had at least one really good moment in it.
 
2014-07-21 12:32:56 PM  

DjangoStonereaver: The thing that sets parody films prior to SPACEBALLS apart from those that came before is, to me, pretty
clear:  affection for what is being spoofed.

Starting with SPACEBALLS, it became clear that Mel did not have the same affection for what he was
spoofing that he held for Westerns or Universal horror films.  As a result, he did not have as great an
investment in telling a good story (as others in this thread pointed out), and he made up for the lack of
a story by sticking in lots more gags (though, admittedly, almost all of them were specific to sci fi movies,
like the bit after the head of Megamaid crashed on the planet with the two PLANET OF THE APES
characters see it and lament "There goes the neighborhood")

But, while SPACEBALLS overall is one of Brooks' worst (though not the worst; that would be DRACULA
DEAD AND LOVING IT), it does have his best gag.  The diner scene with John Hurt as the guy with
indegestion.


Check please.
 
2014-07-21 12:43:05 PM  

Nadie_AZ: DjangoStonereaver: The thing that sets parody films prior to SPACEBALLS apart from those that came before is, to me, pretty
clear:  affection for what is being spoofed.

Starting with SPACEBALLS, it became clear that Mel did not have the same affection for what he was
spoofing that he held for Westerns or Universal horror films.  As a result, he did not have as great an
investment in telling a good story (as others in this thread pointed out), and he made up for the lack of
a story by sticking in lots more gags (though, admittedly, almost all of them were specific to sci fi movies,
like the bit after the head of Megamaid crashed on the planet with the two PLANET OF THE APES
characters see it and lament "There goes the neighborhood")

But, while SPACEBALLS overall is one of Brooks' worst (though not the worst; that would be DRACULA
DEAD AND LOVING IT), it does have his best gag.  The diner scene with John Hurt as the guy with
indegestion.

Check please.



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"Oh no, not again!"
 
2014-07-21 12:45:03 PM  

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Be seated. Ah... Many of you are wondering what's wrong with my pants, well they started running short on materials right before they got to the knees so don't give me any shiat. Ah. I look out there on all you wonderful guys and I say to myself "What I wouldn't give to be 20 years younger... and a woman". You know, I've personally flown over 194 missions and I was shot down on every one. Come to think of it, I've never landed a plane in my life.
 
2014-07-21 12:55:33 PM  
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I always loved this movie.
 
2014-07-21 12:56:42 PM  

DjangoStonereaver: The thing that sets parody films prior to SPACEBALLS apart from those that came before is, to me, pretty
clear:  affection for what is being spoofed.

Starting with SPACEBALLS, it became clear that Mel did not have the same affection for what he was
spoofing that he held for Westerns or Universal horror films.  As a result, he did not have as great an
investment in telling a good story (as others in this thread pointed out), and he made up for the lack of
a story by sticking in lots more gags (though, admittedly, almost all of them were specific to sci fi movies,
like the bit after the head of Megamaid crashed on the planet with the two PLANET OF THE APES
characters see it and lament "There goes the neighborhood")

But, while SPACEBALLS overall is one of Brooks' worst (though not the worst; that would be DRACULA
DEAD AND LOVING IT), it does have his best gag.  The diner scene with John Hurt as the guy with
indegestion.


I take it you zoned ROBIN HOOD:MEN IN TIGHTS out of your memory?

\Spaceballs>>>RH:MIT>>>>>>>>>>>D:DALI
\\And that's only because I'm on a phone and don't feel like adding more >'s
 
2014-07-21 12:58:22 PM  
Hence my name. For some reason Operation Sleepy Weasel stuck with me and always makes me chortle a bit.
 
2014-07-21 1:09:14 PM  
In this thread. People calling Mel brooks over rated and claiming the cinematic piece of shiat that is "Not Another Teen Movie" is actually pretty funny.
 
2014-07-21 1:12:55 PM  

Dr Dreidel: Wasn't Airplane itself a send-up of some movie that had come out a few years (or 10) prior? The late 70s were certainly ripe with "airplane/line disaster" movies - Airport!, Airport! '77, etc - but I thought I remembered reading that ZAZ got the idea from a particular film.


Yes, this was covered. But I saw Airplane as a little kid (my first exposure to boobies) and I still think it's the funniest movie ever. I just saw the movie it was based on a couple years ago and it made it even funnier but it stands on its own, unlike the "hey there's a reference!" movies.
 
2014-07-21 1:14:02 PM  

Shakes999: In this thread. People calling Mel brooks over rated and claiming the cinematic piece of shiat that is "Not Another Teen Movie" is actually pretty funny.


We're saying that Mel Brooks' later movies weren't that funny. Blazing Saddles and Young Frankenstein are obviously classics.
 
2014-07-21 1:17:51 PM  
Robin Hood: Men In Tights is great.
 
2014-07-21 1:25:43 PM  
You guys are missing one of the great ones here...



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2014-07-21 1:26:06 PM  

You'd turn it off when I was halfway across: But I think it was more often from the answers he got when he was questioning people than physical comedy.


"don't call me shirley"

"it's a big building with patients.  but that's not important right now"
 
2014-07-21 1:32:19 PM  

macross87: Pete 'Dead Meat' Thompson is dead. So is Mo Green, Tataglia, Barzini, the heads of all the five families. It is at moments like these, my dear friends, that we must ask ourselves: "How can this not be part of some larger plan?" Do good men like Dead Meat Thompson just blink out one day like a bad bulb? I mean, one minute you're in bed with a knockout gal... or guy, and the next, you're a compost heap. Doesn't that bother any of you? Because it scares the living piss outta me!


Jumpin' Jesus!  They're back!
 
2014-07-21 1:36:40 PM  

Bob Dolemite: You'd turn it off when I was halfway across: But I think it was more often from the answers he got when he was questioning people than physical comedy.

"don't call me shirley"

"it's a big building with patients.  but that's not important right now"


"Yes, yes, I remember I had lasagna"
 
2014-07-21 1:42:41 PM  
I saw Hot Shots in theaters and distinctly recall thinking, "Huh?  I guess this is the end of the movie."  It had some very funny moments, but the story was nearly non-existent.   I love the Zucker Brother films and enjoyed Part Deux, but this one was just doesn't do it for me.
 
2014-07-21 2:16:11 PM  

Pinnacle Point: I think the writers ego is trying to write a check his body can't cash.


I agree that the first Hot Shots hasn't aged well, but to pinpoint that as paving the way for Friedberg and Seltzer? Not buying it.
 
2014-07-21 2:18:15 PM  
The white zone is for the imediate loading and unloading of passengers.  There is no stopping in the red zone.
 
2014-07-21 2:22:44 PM  

Tricky Chicken: The white zone is for the imediate loading and unloading of passengers.  There is no stopping in the red zone.


The red zone is for the immediate loading and unloading of passengers.  There is no stopping in the white zone.
 
2014-07-21 2:24:24 PM  

FriarReb98: DjangoStonereaver: The thing that sets parody films prior to SPACEBALLS apart from those that came before is, to me, pretty
clear:  affection for what is being spoofed.

Starting with SPACEBALLS, it became clear that Mel did not have the same affection for what he was
spoofing that he held for Westerns or Universal horror films.  As a result, he did not have as great an
investment in telling a good story (as others in this thread pointed out), and he made up for the lack of
a story by sticking in lots more gags (though, admittedly, almost all of them were specific to sci fi movies,
like the bit after the head of Megamaid crashed on the planet with the two PLANET OF THE APES
characters see it and lament "There goes the neighborhood")

But, while SPACEBALLS overall is one of Brooks' worst (though not the worst; that would be DRACULA
DEAD AND LOVING IT), it does have his best gag.  The diner scene with John Hurt as the guy with
indegestion.

I take it you zoned ROBIN HOOD:MEN IN TIGHTS out of your memory?

\Spaceballs>>>RH:MIT>>>>>>>>>>>D:DALI
\\And that's only because I'm on a phone and don't feel like adding more >'s


I liked RH:MIT better than SPACEBALLS, though it did suffer from the same sort of gags over story
problem that had settled into the form, especially since it was a direct reaction to the Costner ROBIN
HOOD.  At least Brooks' affection for the old swashbucklers still showed through.  And it had Amy
Yasbeck in a chastity belt and not much else.
 
2014-07-21 2:28:54 PM  

realmolo: phillydrifter: Dwight_Yeast: Otherwise, not as funny as Airplane.

"Airplane!" was actually found to be the funniest movie of all time, according to some scientific fact. (Google it; I'll wait.) I tried to submit it here on fark just a few days ago but someone had already tried to submit the same story about a year ago and it wasn't listed.

I think it's funny though that Airplane has actually been certified as the #1 comedy of all time according to some scientific research or other. It deserves it. (And Mel Brooks deserves 3 of the top 5 comedies of all time: Blazing Saddles, Young Frankenstein, HOTWp1)

/spaceballs wasn't really that funny -- there, i said it

"Spaceballs" sucks.

Frankly, most of the Mel Brooks movies are...mediocre. Moments of greatness, but overall, they're just boring and obvious.

But "Spaceballs" is quite obviously the movie where Brooks gave up even *trying* to be clever. It's terrible.


Sounds to me like you are suffering from high anxiety.
 
2014-07-21 2:42:14 PM  

Crewmannumber6: Tricky Chicken: The white zone is for the imediate loading and unloading of passengers.  There is no stopping in the red zone.

The red zone is for the immediate loading and unloading of passengers.  There is no stopping in the white zone.


Didn't you die in episode 26?
 
2014-07-21 3:40:17 PM  

zedster: Airplane worked because they bought a script, Zero Hour!, and then added jokes to it, like wise a lot of the earlier ZAZ stuff, Mel Brook's, and the stuff from Christopher Guest and Rob Reiner works because if you removed the jokes you have a semblance of a movie underneath it that has some plot and structure to it.

The Not ___ Movies other then Not a Teen Movie failed to get this. They were an amalgamation of jokes and pop culture references without an underlying movie. Good parody/satire has to have some understanding of what they are parodying other then LOL! ITS STUPID YO! I do have to say even though it's not going to be everyone's cup of tea I think David Wain's They Came Together is the closest I've seen anyone come to ZAZ level parody in a while with the correct level of absurdity throw in. Hell there is one joke in that movie (the one about the deck) that Paul Rudd does a dead on Leslie Nielsen delivery.


I agree, I've always thought the best parodies always work as stand alone versions of what they are poking fun at.  Shaun of the Dead is a good zombie movie, it's also a Romero parody but it's still a good zombie movie.  Airplane works because it's a good Airport knockoff besides being funny.  Young Frankenstein is a good monster movie, and so on.  Scary Movie was a newer one I liked, but it worked as a Scream knock off just enough to be entertaining.  Since then they've jettisoned any attempt at making a parody that functions well as a movie and just have a bunch of scenes strung together whether it works as a whole or not.
 
2014-07-21 3:55:11 PM  

Tricky Chicken: Amazon Women on the Moon.

also,

What do you do with an elephant with three balls?


Walk himm and pitch to the rhinoceros.
 
2014-07-21 4:23:20 PM  

Fano: realmolo: phillydrifter: Dwight_Yeast: Otherwise, not as funny as Airplane.

"Airplane!" was actually found to be the funniest movie of all time, according to some scientific fact. (Google it; I'll wait.) I tried to submit it here on fark just a few days ago but someone had already tried to submit the same story about a year ago and it wasn't listed.

I think it's funny though that Airplane has actually been certified as the #1 comedy of all time according to some scientific research or other. It deserves it. (And Mel Brooks deserves 3 of the top 5 comedies of all time: Blazing Saddles, Young Frankenstein, HOTWp1)

/spaceballs wasn't really that funny -- there, i said it

"Spaceballs" sucks.

Frankly, most of the Mel Brooks movies are...mediocre. Moments of greatness, but overall, they're just boring and obvious.

But "Spaceballs" is quite obviously the movie where Brooks gave up even *trying* to be clever. It's terrible.

Sounds to me like you are suffering from high anxiety.


The coffee table joke in High Anxiety has to be one of the most brilliant jokes ever told.
 
2014-07-21 4:29:36 PM  
By the standards of this thread - that a parody film must be able to stand on its own legs as well as accurately lampoon its target - I'd say Scream was a damn good one - just done in a more tongue-in-cheek fashion than the farcical slapstick style of ZAZ and Brooks.

That's why Scary Movie never worked for me.  It was a parody of a parody.  It's like it didn't get the joke.
 
2014-07-21 4:35:46 PM  

RedPhoenix122: PhiloeBedoe: I loved Hot Shots but what do I know, I took a bullet at Corregidor, 1945. Passed straight through my head from one ear to the other...

You're joking!


If he were joking he would have said "What do you do with an elephant with 3 balls?"

/answer already covered here
 
2014-07-21 4:39:54 PM  
Really? People are missing an obvious one...
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2014-07-21 4:43:39 PM  

buntz: Gunny Highway: I am pretty sure Blinkin responds, "Did you say, 'Abe Lincoln?'"

And he replies "No, I said "Hey Blinkin'"

He explained the joke.  It wasn't necessary.  The funny was the blind guy thought he said "Abe Lincoln"

Same thing started happening in Naked Gun 2 and worse in 3.

Jane tries to slap Frank and he catches her left hand.  Then her right hand.  So a third hand comes up and slaps him.  On the Police Squad show and first Naked Gun, Frank going on as if nothing weird just happened IS the joke.
But after the slap gag Frank stops and makes a face.  He's confused where the third hand came from.  The whole joke is Frank is never aware of the craziness around him.  And as soon as he is aware of it, it's no longer funny, it's forced.... in my opinion.


I feel that if you're going to attempt forced humor, you need to acknowledge it's forced. Looking directly at the camera with a deadpan stare usually does the trick. Even then, a lame joke can only go so far.

The Hey Blinkin joke might have worked if someone dressed as Abe Lincoln had suddenly walked on camera and stayed reciting the Gettysburg Address before Chappelle's character cuts him off with the response.
 
2014-07-21 4:47:48 PM  
Forgotbusters re-examines movies that were among the top 25 grossing films the year of their release, but have receded culturally, in order to explore what originally attracted audiences to them, and why they failed to endure.

Wow, this is great news.  I was just wondering why the #23 grossing film of 1998 isn't still popular today.  I'm so glad I came across this article.
 
2014-07-21 4:56:44 PM  

cyberspacedout: The Hey Blinkin joke might have worked if someone dressed as Abe Lincoln had suddenly walked on camera and stayed reciting the Gettysburg Address before Chappelle's character cuts him off with the response.


I don't think so.  It's not a good joke to begin with but the joke itself was the blind man misunderstood Achoo and thought Abe Lincoln was there.  It would have been funnier if the scene continued as is.  It was a throw away line.
But to clarify his mistake by actually saying "No, I said 'Hey Blinkin'" its now less of a joke and more of a banal conversation.

It reminds me of the Kids in the Hall "Who's on First" sketch.  Except not funny.
 
2014-07-21 5:29:46 PM  

cyberspacedout: The Hey Blinkin joke might have worked if someone dressed as Abe Lincoln had suddenly walked on camera and stayed reciting the Gettysburg Address before Chappelle's character cuts him off with the response.


In fact here's the clip. http://youtu.be/wJcuYKyHEgs

Like I said, it was a throw away line, but it should have gone:

Hey, Blinkin'
Did you say "Abe Lincoln?"
Hold the reigns
 
2014-07-21 5:44:47 PM  

buntz: cyberspacedout: The Hey Blinkin joke might have worked if someone dressed as Abe Lincoln had suddenly walked on camera and stayed reciting the Gettysburg Address before Chappelle's character cuts him off with the response.

In fact here's the clip. http://youtu.be/wJcuYKyHEgs

Like I said, it was a throw away line, but it should have gone:

Hey, Blinkin'
Did you say "Abe Lincoln?"
Hold the reigns


Okay, now that that has been established....
 
2014-07-21 5:46:37 PM  
No, it should have gone

Hey, Blinkin'
WHAT?
I SAID "HEY, BLINKIN'"
DID YOU SAY"ANNE FRANK ?"
 
2014-07-21 6:01:11 PM  

Shakes999: In this thread. People calling Mel brooks over rated and claiming the cinematic piece of shiat that is "Not Another Teen Movie" is actually pretty funny.


If you have been or dated a young artist, this entire storyline is epic.

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/"She's right... maybe you should get on that plane to Paris. Cause if you stay, we really only have the summer, then I go to college and we'll talk on the phone and spend the occasional weekend together which is nice. But chances are one night I'm gonna get wrecked and have unprotected sex with some girl in my dorm. You'll find her thong and call me a slut... I'll call you a cock-tease and we'll break up. So when you really think about it, what's the point? "
 
2014-07-21 6:05:13 PM  

Crewmannumber6: Comedy is like a frog. When you dissect it, it dies.


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2014-07-21 6:25:19 PM  
Not a single joke?

Haven't read the thread, so maybe someone's mentioned it, but the sight gag about the "Psychology Today - Swimsuit Edition" is still much loved by all my psychology friends everywhere.
 
2014-07-21 6:31:39 PM  

Snatch Bandergrip: I'd say Scream was a damn good one - just done in a more tongue-in-cheek fashion than the farcical slapstick style of ZAZ and Brooks.


I'm a fan of the Scream movies, (yes all of them) but I wouldn't call them parodys exactly. They were slasher films (that weren't all that gory) whose characters were aware of the tropes of slasher films. But they never broke the 4th wall or had anything go outside the narrative for a joke like actual parody movies. They were more like comedy/horror. But yeah, the Scary Movie movies, parodying a borderline parody movie, especially using the exact same mask from Scream was very lame and shows that they really didn't get it at all.
 
2014-07-21 6:49:35 PM  

buntz: Gunny Highway: I am pretty sure Blinkin responds, "Did you say, 'Abe Lincoln?'"

And he replies "No, I said "Hey Blinkin'"

He explained the joke.  It wasn't necessary.  The funny was the blind guy thought he said "Abe Lincoln"

Same thing started happening in Naked Gun 2 and worse in 3.

Jane tries to slap Frank and he catches her left hand.  Then her right hand.  So a third hand comes up and slaps him.  On the Police Squad show and first Naked Gun, Frank going on as if nothing weird just happened IS the joke.
But after the slap gag Frank stops and makes a face.  He's confused where the third hand came from.  The whole joke is Frank is never aware of the craziness around him.  And as soon as he is aware of it, it's no longer funny, it's forced.... in my opinion.


That's very well explained. It makes perfect sense.
 
2014-07-21 6:53:06 PM  
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I thought that was a crock pot?

No, that's for cooking all day. You've got a lot to learn.
 
2014-07-21 8:18:22 PM  
Have they no respect for the dead?   (God I love a good funeral)
 
2014-07-21 10:14:00 PM  
Someone doesn't like Hot Shots: Part Deux?

We'll settle this the old Navy way: First guy to die, loses!
 
2014-07-21 10:27:26 PM  
except it wasn't

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2014-07-21 10:48:30 PM  

Dwight_Yeast: Hot Shots was worth it for the scene where the Sheens shout "I loved you in 'Wall St'" at each other from passing PT boats.

Otherwise, not as funny as Airplane.


Nothing was as funny as Airplane. Except maybe Young Frankenstein.
 
2014-07-21 10:50:14 PM  

gunga galunga: If Airplane was released today...

INT. - PASSENGER CABIN - NIGHT

(The stewardess is handing out meals.)

STEWARDESS: Here's your fish, Gordron Ramsay.

GORDON RAMSAY: This fish is raaaaaaawwwww!!!!!

STEWARDESS: Will you please stop playing Words With Friends, Alec Baldwin?

ALEC BALDWIN: You're a rude, thoughtless, little pig.

PASSENGER: Hey, look! Ted Cruz is filibustering first class.

TED CRUZ: I do not like Obamacare.

(The action turns to slow motion. Quicksilver runs in and gives Ted Cruz a wedgie. Just like he gave a wedgie to that security guard in the latest X-Men movie. That's the joke.)

PASSENGER: Hey, look. It's the queen from Frozen.

(The queen from Frozen sings a drawn-out hip hop version of "Let It Go" to pad the movie's running time by a few minutes.)

FROZEN QUEEN: I'll turn this plane into an eternal winter.

WINTER SOLDIER: Did somebody say winter?

PASSENGER #2: Hey, look! It's the Winter Soldier.

(Captain America appears and the two of them fight for five minutes to pad the movie's running time a bit more.)


Wow, dude... It's like actually watching one of those horrible movies. Minus the little black guy to come in as Captain America or whoever.
 
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