sinisterben: How does one test for Patriarchy?
worlddan: Crewmannumber6: I just skimmed the article, but I didn't see anything associated with Byzantium. Was Subby trying to say Draconian?What does Harry Potter have to do with rape?
worlddan: ikanreed: JesusJuice: Passed out is not the same as drunk. Drunk people can consent, passed out people cannot.Except, of course, to contracts, financial deals, weddings, and basically every other class of thing consent if legally required for. Then suddenly it's too big a deal to just let slide.I'm never heard of a court invalidating either a wedding or a contract because the person was drunk when they signed the paper. You have some case citation on that point?
JackieRabbit: Younger farkers: is or was rape a problem at your school?
Because People in power are Stupid: Will the nonstop rape carnival never end?[1.bp.blogspot.com image 547x452]
Inchoate: Because People in power are Stupid: I'm pretty sure he's an alt of Theaetetus. They have the same writing style, the same views and when they interacted on this thread it was used as a (*shudder*) vehicle to share lovemaking tips.lolseriously?Have you actually spent any time reading Fark? Other than "intelligence and confidence in their opinions" those two aren't especially similar.
Because People in power are Stupid: Men take more risks
sinisterben: That's not the overarching patriarchy you are discussing, this is like the Christian claiming god is love. You aren't talking about what you actually believe, you are talking about something much different and greatly diminished from the original claims.
Ishkur: sinisterben: Help me out here is Patriarchy Theory falsifiable? How does one test for Patriarchy?Patriarchy simply means rule by men.So look up the leaders and rulers of all social, political, religious, commercial and martial institutions, at the local, state, national and international level. If they are predominantly male and/or if those institutions have special rules restricting access or participation in them from females, then you can safely say that they are patriarchies.
poot_rootbeer: Oh Jesus this thread is full of MRAs./quit
Tobin_Lam: tlars699: It's just like handing car keys to another one of your friends, or them forcing you to give them up when they know you've had more than "that one 3 hours ago".This guy's pretty smart. His posts here have been some of the only ones that actually make any sense at all.
tlars699: Note: If both parties were arrested for having drunk sex, maybe the divorce rate would go down, because people would stop meeting their "life-mates" at the bar scene.
Elliot8654: Ishkur: JackieRabbit: Younger farkers: is or was rape a problem at your school?I think what's happening is guys are getting douchier and douchier in relationships, so it may be time to address the growing influence that Redtube and Bangbus and all the legions of misogynistic videos are having on the newer generations.Online porn has effectively desensitized teenagers from understanding what true intimacy really is. It has made teenage girls more experimentative at a time when they probably shouldn't be and it has made boys a lot more misogynistic, selfish and demanding.So girls: Please understand the difference between rape and just having awful sex with a douchebag. The latter is not rape but do try to avoid both if you can, and stay safe.And guys: Please stop being selfish douchebags in bed. Online porn is just a fantasy and not in any way resembling how you should actually treat a girl. Be gentle, talk to her, appeal to her needs, kiss her all over (yes, even her hoo-ha), make her come at least once, and snuggle -- before and after. And don't make ANY demands or unreasonable expectations. If she doesn't want to go down on you, don't force her. It's not about you. She's a human being, not a human-sized fleshlight.So yeah. That last paragraph;"Here guys, here is a list of things you should do even if you don't want to. But if a girl doesn't want to do something, too bad".
JackieRabbit: Khellendros: JackieRabbit: I have been wondering: What the hell is going on here? Have men started raping women on campuses at unprecedented rates? Can college-aged boys be more prone to sexual violence today than in other generations?I haven't found much concrete about this phenomenon, but the ways that colleges are dealing with it or planning to deal with it pretty much tells the tale: they want to limit or ban alcohol from on-campus functions. This suggests to me me that it is the same-old-same-old: the kiddies get drunk, the girl farks a guy or guys (with some persuasion or not), she either is or fears being slut-shamed and cries rape. Or is something else going on?Younger farkers: is or was rape a problem at your school?I don't think it's happening more, it's just finally being treated as unacceptable behavior and a brighter light is being put on it."Kids get drunk, kids have sex, better deal with consequences, ladies" is an antiquated way of looking at it. Today, it's "whatever you did to get there, consent was never given, better deal with the consequences, gentlemen".I can tell you with no reservation whatsoever that rape was NEVER tolerated when I attended college a quarter-centry ago. So don't give me the "it isn't tolerated now the way it once was." Because this is a myth; it never happened.
Ishkur: A satisfying night of excellent sex is the best safeguard against morning after awkwardness (in fact, if anything, the morning after should be more sex). If you're not willing to put in the time and effort to get her there, then you have no one to blame but yourself.
Khellendros: Elliot8654: Because getting sex through lying, manipulation, peer pressure, drug use, or a thousand other means only happens to one gender, too.I'm sorry, we were talking about rape. You know, sex with at least one non-consenting party? Not this bullshiat you're peddling. Other than the drug use example, the rest is piles of false equivalency.
Elliot8654: Oh, and as for my "douchiness", is that why I am cooking steak, pasta, and vegetables for my fiancee?
Elliot8654: How about instead of making me "fix my douche attitude" you encourage women as well as men to be responsible for themselves.
Inchoate: rkiller1: Inchoate: rkiller1: /I have no broken system to futilely fix.This may be because you're an asshole.[img.fark.net image 428x278]sick burn bro
Inchoate: rkiller1: /I have no broken system to futilely fix.This may be because you're an asshole.
ikanreed: poot_rootbeer: Oh Jesus this thread is full of MRAs./quitYou just made it proportionally fuller of them. But have a nice day, you shouldn't suffer just because the rest of us struggle futilely to fix their broken ideological systems.
Khellendros: "Kids get drunk, kids have sex, better deal with consequences, ladies" is an antiquated way of looking at it. Today, it's "whatever you did to get there, consent was never given, better deal with the consequences, gentlemen".
Elliot8654: I would offer to change your mind, but 2 problems:1) no matter what I say you won't believe me, even if I had other women I had slept with write in here how good I actually am.2) if I tried to prove it, you don't want it. That would be this thing called rape, which is bad.
Because People in power are Stupid: Mikey1969: Some people making false claims doesn't let real offenders off of the hook, sorry.You see mikey this is why my notes on you are 100% correct. Nowhere do I claim to support "real offenders" -only you and the white knight fembot hordes seem to be making this claim.Anyone pointing out that it is financially lucrative for someone to falsely accuse someone else of rape is akin to 'letting rapists go free' is a false equivalence.For example Wanetta Gibson made $750,000 after accusing Brian Banks of rape. The only reason she got caught is because she felt remorse.I submit that most women who do this do not feel remorse.
Elliot8654: so in the reverse, if I'm really good at sex, is it not rape now?
Elliot8654: I've had drunken Sex with girls before. The next day we have an awkward chat, age that wasn't the smartest idea, and go on our way.
Elliot8654: I've had drunken Sex with girls before. The next day we have an awkward chat, age that wasn't the smartest idea, and go on our way.If she is incapable of giving consent, then yeah, rape.But if she is drunk, and she is peeling my clothes off...I'd I tell her to stop and she won't, who is raping who?
Ishkur: And guys: Please stop being selfish douchebags in bed. Online porn is just a fantasy and not in any way resembling how you should actually treat a girl. ...It's not about you. ...
ikanreed: Elliot8654: Exempt from financial deals because you were drunk?I need to sue to get back every bar tab I ever paid!!!Oh, look, scale and situation matters(guess what courts do with rape cases, really!). You buy a house while drunk? Even if you pay cash, it can be invalidated as a transaction.
Elliot8654: So if I don't go down on a girl and if I don't feel like cuddling, she may accuse me of rape?
thaduke: To be fair, if these regulations were actually 'Byzantine', they would involve gouging someone's eyes out, or cutting off their nose/tongue, and being unbelievably arrogant and superior. Oh, and being very fickle and combative about your particular version of Christianity.
JesusJuice: Passed out is not the same as drunk. Drunk people can consent, passed out people cannot.
Crewmannumber6: I just skimmed the article, but I didn't see anything associated with Byzantium. Was Subby trying to say Draconian?
mdeesnuts: Sexual 'assault' laws need a major revamping. I know a guy that spent 5 years in prison because he broke up with a girl and her Daddykins filed charges even though he knew they'd been farking under his roof for 2 years and approved - until the break up.BONUS: They were the same age, but under 18./ruined the poor guy's life//he's now officially a sexual predator
gopher321: Because People in power are Stupid: Will the nonstop rape carnival never end?[1.bp.blogspot.com image 547x452]I'm sure the actual raping going on outweighs a few media-hyped false reports.
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