FARK.com: (8293281) Game designers step up to challenge of building compelling games using just 32X32 pixel fields. You can now argue about lag and how much better these would play on a gaming PC rather than a console

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		Game designers step up to challenge of building compelling games using just 32X32 pixel fields. You can now argue about lag and how much better these would play on a gaming PC rather than a console ( boingboing.net)		94
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Dimensio

2014-06-10 09:34:01 AM

Is not that the entire Atari Lynx library?

Rev.K

2014-06-10 09:53:00 AM

Skyrim PC > Skyrim console

/just sayin

unyon

2014-06-10 09:54:23 AM

I'd be more impressed if they also did it in 4 colours like we did back in the day.

InterruptingQuirk

2014-06-10 10:03:31 AM

Nuff said. Your argument is invalid.

onzmadi

2014-06-10 10:56:07 AM

unyon: I'd be more impressed if they also did it in 4 colours like we did back in the day.

I like the cut of your onion belt sir

Jaden Smith First of His Name

2014-06-10 10:56:09 AM

Eventually we're going to get so retro that there will only be one big pixel.

nightbringerggz

2014-06-10 10:57:51 AM

Jaden Smith First of His Name: Eventually we're going to get so retro that there will only be one big pixel.

And two paddles on the side?

Tyrone Slothrop

2014-06-10 10:57:58 AM

32x32 pixels? That's not so bad. I used to bull's-eye womp rats in my T-16 back home. They're not much bigger than 32x32 pixels.

BumpInTheNight

2014-06-10 10:58:26 AM

Rev.K: Skyrim PC > Skyrim console

/just sayin

aaand I just read today that Rockstar formally announced the release of the PC GTA5 will be this fall! Oh and its also coming out for the slightly newer but still classically outdated consoles too.

fireclown

2014-06-10 10:58:29 AM

not a whole lot of difference. Both consoles are pretty much PCs right now.

frepnog

2014-06-10 10:59:54 AM

32X you say? Compelling games? fark YEAH SEGAAAAAAAAA

frepnog

2014-06-10 11:01:29 AM

BumpInTheNight: Rev.K: Skyrim PC > Skyrim console

/just sayin

aaand I just read today that Rockstar formally announced the release of the PC GTA5 will be this fall! Oh and its also coming out for the slightly newer but still classically outdated consoles too.

Funny, but honestly it probably should have been held onto and released on those machines in the first place. It was really shoehorned onto the last-gen consoles.

Jobber8742

2014-06-10 11:04:23 AM

I read this as they were going to start releasing 32X games again.

Nix Nightbird

2014-06-10 11:06:51 AM

InterruptingQuirk: [img.diytrade.com image 500x499]
Nuff said. Your argument is invalid.

The mouse is a crappy way to control a game, and I say this as someone who has been gaming on everything-- PC included-- since PCs were invented. I say this as someone who built my own gaming rig.

Using a mouse to play a game means you're hunched over a desk with your face a few inches from a monitor. Using a game controller for PC games means you're able to recline on your couch and enjoy the big TV... yes, you can use your PC on the big TV with a mouse, but it's a real pain in the ass to use a mouse on a sofa without having to hunch over a table. Try using mouse & keyboard while reclining, with your feet up.

The only people who obsess about mouse & keyboard anymore are obsessive twitch FPS gamers who think circle-strafing is vitally important and who think winning a round of COD is some kind of grand honor... And frankly, most FPS games suck these days.

Nix Nightbird

2014-06-10 11:07:27 AM

BumpInTheNight: Rev.K: Skyrim PC > Skyrim console

/just sayin

aaand I just read today that Rockstar formally announced the release of the PC GTA5 will be this fall! Oh and its also coming out for the slightly newer but still classically outdated consoles too.

Still no Red Dead Redemption, though. Typical.

BumpInTheNight

2014-06-10 11:07:39 AM

frepnog: BumpInTheNight: Rev.K: Skyrim PC > Skyrim console

/just sayin

aaand I just read today that Rockstar formally announced the release of the PC GTA5 will be this fall! Oh and its also coming out for the slightly newer but still classically outdated consoles too.

Funny, but honestly it probably should have been held onto and released on those machines in the first place. It was really shoehorned onto the last-gen consoles.

I was pretty surprised as well that they tried to jam another title onto that generation, but hey they get to double dip on anyone who absolutely had to play the game even on one of those machines and couldn't wait for the proper release with at least some semblance of the horse power required to bring those games to life. I've intended to give them full price for the game but only when its out on a platform worthy of it...so this fall, finally :)

Nix Nightbird

2014-06-10 11:08:25 AM

Dimensio: Is not that the entire Atari Lynx library?

Hey now... The Lynx was the only console that had that version of Gauntlet where you could play as a Nerd.

BumpInTheNight

2014-06-10 11:10:26 AM

Nix Nightbird: The mouse is a crappy way to control a game, and I say this as someone who has been gaming on everything-- PC included-- since PCs were invented. I say this as someone who built my own gaming rig.

Using a mouse to play a game means you're hunched over a desk with your face a few inches from a monitor. Using a game controller for PC games means you're able to recline on your couch and enjoy the big TV... yes, you can use your PC on the big TV with a mouse, but it's a real pain in the ass to use a mouse on a sofa without having to hunch over a table. Try using mouse & keyboard while reclining, with your feet up.

The only people who obsess about mouse & keyboard anymore are obsessive twitch FPS gamers who think circle-strafing is vitally important and who think winning a round of COD is some kind of grand honor... And frankly, most FPS games suck these days.

If you can't figure out how to comfortably get a mouse in your hand while relaxing on a couch then I fully agree: You should stick to consoles.

InterruptingQuirk

2014-06-10 11:14:03 AM

Nix Nightbird: The mouse is a crappy way to control a game

You mean the smooth, controlled, sweeping motion that can be modified by the width of a pixel with the intuition of writing is subpar to the herky jerky, only made slightly smooth through the usage of aim-assist algorithms, all the while reminding one of the same old dick waggling joystick nonsense of 40 years ago? Hmm.

Shakes

2014-06-10 11:15:03 AM

Mirrorz

2014-06-10 11:16:44 AM

Nix Nightbird: The mouse is a crappy way to control a game...Try using mouse & keyboard while reclining, with your feet up.

I've been playing games while sitting in a rocking chair since 1982. It's the only way that I can technically sit still long enough to play a game.

It made using the Wii impossible so I immediately brought that thing over to my parents' house.

Snarfangel

2014-06-10 11:18:10 AM

With a 32x32 ASCII field, you could do an okay version of Rogue or Nethack.

SewerSquirrels

2014-06-10 11:19:30 AM

unyon: I'd be more impressed if they also did it in 4 colours like we did back in the day.

4 colors? Luxury; in my day we had:

MythDragon

2014-06-10 11:19:51 AM

Rev.K: Skyrim PC > Skyrim console

/just sayin

PC Skyrim: Stick disc in. Configure. Install. Connect to server. Verify key code. If server is up, you may now play.
Console Skyrim: Stick disc in, start playing.

PC Skyrim: Finish game. Stick in a box in the attic.
Console Skyrim: Finish game. Sell or trade game in for something new.

/just saying

LazarusLong42

2014-06-10 11:20:22 AM

Nix Nightbird: InterruptingQuirk: [img.diytrade.com image 500x499]
Nuff said. Your argument is invalid.

The mouse is a crappy way to control a game, and I say this as someone who has been gaming on everything-- PC included-- since PCs were invented. I say this as someone who built my own gaming rig.

Using a mouse to play a game means you're hunched over a desk with your face a few inches from a monitor. Using a game controller for PC games means you're able to recline on your couch and enjoy the big TV... yes, you can use your PC on the big TV with a mouse, but it's a real pain in the ass to use a mouse on a sofa without having to hunch over a table. Try using mouse & keyboard while reclining, with your feet up.

The only people who obsess about mouse & keyboard anymore are obsessive twitch FPS gamers who think circle-strafing is vitally important and who think winning a round of COD is some kind of grand honor... And frankly, most FPS games suck these days.

I cannot imagine how horrible it would be to play Civ, nethack, WOW, StarCraft, SimCity, (I could go on) on a console, with no mouse to select things nor keyboard to give multiple different commands.

Any if those games with 10 buttons and a D-Pad would be an exercise in frustration.

/doesn't play FPS games
//slashes come in pairs, not threes.

The hopeless imp

2014-06-10 11:23:12 AM

You just made a great argument for PC > console. I can sit comfy in my lumbar-supporting chair and use a mouse.

frepnog

2014-06-10 11:23:16 AM

MythDragon: PC Skyrim: Finish game.

that's cute. you think people don't play Skyrim for hundreds and hundreds of hours, that they complete the main 40 hour quest and stop.

m00

2014-06-10 11:24:17 AM

unyon: I'd be more impressed if they also did it in 4 colours like we did back in the day.

Came to say this.

InterruptingQuirk

2014-06-10 11:24:43 AM

MythDragon: Rev.K: Skyrim PC > Skyrim console

/just sayin

PC Skyrim: Stick disc in. Configure. Install. Connect to server. Verify key code. If server is up, you may now play.
Console Skyrim: Stick disc in, start playing.

PC Skyrim: Finish game. Stick in a box in the attic.
Console Skyrim: Finish game. Sell or trade game in for something new.

/just saying

PC Skyrim, acknowledge the universe is waiting to take your game to the far reaches of imagination and back through the use of mods. Console Skyrim, it is a box.

toetag

2014-06-10 11:24:44 AM

Nix Nightbird: Try using mouse & keyboard while reclining, with your feet up.

It's not that complicated, it's how I work from home and play games all the time. bluetooth keyboard, bluetooth trackball.

/ and usually butt naked on the couch, i have a short attention span for work and games but I can last for hours with porn.
// if only with my robot....my girl robot.
/// kidding, wife would kill me if I got streaks on the couch.

The My Little Pony Killer

2014-06-10 11:28:23 AM

LazarusLong42: Nix Nightbird: InterruptingQuirk: [img.diytrade.com image 500x499]
Nuff said. Your argument is invalid.

The mouse is a crappy way to control a game, and I say this as someone who has been gaming on everything-- PC included-- since PCs were invented. I say this as someone who built my own gaming rig.

Using a mouse to play a game means you're hunched over a desk with your face a few inches from a monitor. Using a game controller for PC games means you're able to recline on your couch and enjoy the big TV... yes, you can use your PC on the big TV with a mouse, but it's a real pain in the ass to use a mouse on a sofa without having to hunch over a table. Try using mouse & keyboard while reclining, with your feet up.

The only people who obsess about mouse & keyboard anymore are obsessive twitch FPS gamers who think circle-strafing is vitally important and who think winning a round of COD is some kind of grand honor... And frankly, most FPS games suck these days.

I cannot imagine how horrible it would be to play Civ, nethack, WOW, StarCraft, SimCity, (I could go on) on a console, with no mouse to select things nor keyboard to give multiple different commands.

Any if those games with 10 buttons and a D-Pad would be an exercise in frustration.

/doesn't play FPS games
//slashes come in pairs, not threes.

Seems to work just fine for Minecraft. The only thing the console versions seem to miss out on is the barebones crafting.

fireclown

2014-06-10 11:28:35 AM

SewerSquirrels: unyon: I'd be more impressed if they also did it in 4 colours like we did back in the day.

4 colors? Luxury; in my day we had:
[freespace.virgin.net image 288x216]

NOW you're talking my language.

/love me some vectors.

Carn

2014-06-10 11:38:25 AM

What's a "disc"? My Skyrim was a digital download from steam. And while you're right that I can't resell it, I get most games at deep discounts during holiday sales and the digital bits are still shiny and new, vs a used dvd for a console that may or may be dinged up. Also, PC graphics >>>>>>>>>>>>> console. Also, mods.

Also:

mjbok

2014-06-10 11:39:14 AM

LazarusLong42: I cannot imagine how horrible it would be to play Civ, nethack, WOW, StarCraft, SimCity, (I could go on) on a console, with no mouse to select things nor keyboard to give multiple different commands.

How come consoles don't have the option to control with a mouse/keyboard. I would think this would bring in more converts, plus they could have more officially licensed peripherals.

CtrlAltDestroy

2014-06-10 11:43:52 AM

Nix Nightbird: Using a mouse to play a game means you're hunched over a desk with your face a few inches from a monitor. Using a game controller for PC games means you're able to recline on your couch and enjoy the big TV... yes, you can use your PC on the big TV with a mouse, but it's a real pain in the ass to use a mouse on a sofa without having to hunch over a table. Try using mouse & keyboard while reclining, with your feet up.

This is what I've been doing for the last year or so. Big comfy chaise couch with big 55" LED TV with my gaming rig hooked directly to my surround sound system.. I sit on the couch either sitting up or reclining on the chaise with a wireless keyboard and mouse. I've done everything from FPSs to platformers this way. It's easy and very comfy.

Now, for the article in question, something like that has been around for along time.

soporific

2014-06-10 11:46:50 AM

Depending on the game, I find that I like using a controller for movement and then using a mouse to interact. It makes it a very intuitive gaming experience, far better than trying to use the keyboard to move. I hold the controller in my left hand and use it to move (and cycle through hotkeys) and use the mouse with my right.

Copperbelly watersnake

2014-06-10 11:50:00 AM

People finish Skyrim?

/Trying to get through the civil war as a Stormcloak, but dear gods Ulfric and his jarls are such complete arses.

BigBuzzman

2014-06-10 11:52:25 AM

Was a real fun version.

Vash's Apprentice

2014-06-10 11:52:28 AM

InterruptingQuirk: MythDragon: Rev.K: Skyrim PC > Skyrim console

/just sayin

PC Skyrim: Stick disc in. Configure. Install. Connect to server. Verify key code. If server is up, you may now play.
Console Skyrim: Stick disc in, start playing.

PC Skyrim: Finish game. Stick in a box in the attic.
Console Skyrim: Finish game. Sell or trade game in for something new.

/just saying

PC Skyrim, acknowledge the universe is waiting to take your game to the far reaches of imagination and back through the use of mods. Console Skyrim, it is a box.

Console game:Install once and play
PC Game:May or may not have to install multiple times just to get to the title screen. Also DRM.

RoxtarRyan

2014-06-10 11:56:47 AM

Console fanboys: hurrr dee durr durr
PC fanboys: wee dee bee dee durr

Normal people: We enjoy both, and that is awesome.

special20

2014-06-10 11:59:43 AM

InterruptingQuirk: Nix Nightbird: The mouse is a crappy way to control a game

You mean the smooth, controlled, sweeping motion that can be modified by the width of a pixel with the intuition of writing is subpar to the herky jerky, only made slightly smooth through the usage of aim-assist algorithms, all the while reminding one of the same old dick waggling joystick nonsense of 40 years ago? Hmm.

Or maybe he is saying how inconvenient it is to setup any mouse button in game settings to automatically execute a command that would otherwise require a console user to press "B" every 60 seconds. Got it.

Also, that dude never heard about putting his feet up on the desk, keyboard on lap and mouse comfortably set where your arm rests naturally... pfff... what a load of bullocks saying consoles are better for ergonomics.

InterruptingQuirk

2014-06-10 12:00:18 PM

Vash's Apprentice: PC Game:May or may not have to install multiple times just to get to the title screen. Also DRM.

This is very telling about the state of your PC. Also, DRM is the reason for the existence of every console, and they are built from the ground up to maintain that DRM.

The My Little Pony Killer

2014-06-10 12:00:47 PM

goatan: Console skyrim never finish game ~~sell it because its not enjoyable~~ but manage to put in tens of thousands of hours anyway because finding all the bugs are fun.

/PS3 version is best version

Loaf's Tray

2014-06-10 12:02:03 PM

Jaden Smith First of His Name: Eventually we're going to get so retro that there will only be one big pixel.

"Pixels"...pshaw...

sprawl15

2014-06-10 12:02:47 PM

BigBuzzman: LazarusLong42: I cannot imagine how horrible it would be to play Civ, nethack, WOW, StarCraft, SimCity, (I could go on) on a console, with no mouse to select things nor keyboard to give multiple different commands.

[i.neoseeker.com image 475x330]

Was a real fun version.

played the shiat out of this back in the day
without the snes mouse

toraque

2014-06-10 12:05:42 PM

Copperbelly watersnake:

People finish Skyrim?

I was never able to. Last playthrough I eventually decided that my goal of filling my entire house full of cheese wheels was unrealistic and had never even talked to the old dudes on the mountain.

kasmel

2014-06-10 12:13:44 PM

Nix Nightbird: Try using mouse & keyboard while reclining, with your feet up.

not sure if serious

It's Me Bender

2014-06-10 12:17:45 PM

Nix Nightbird: The mouse is a crappy way to control a game,

10/10, well done

sprawl15

2014-06-10 12:17:53 PM

kasmel: Nix Nightbird: Try using mouse & keyboard while reclining, with your feet up.

[hacknmod.com image 600x450]
not sure if serious

missing the important half of the bowflex

Loaf's Tray

2014-06-10 12:18:01 PM

Nix Nightbird: Using a mouse to play a game means you're hunched over a desk with your face a few inches from a monitor. Using a game controller for PC games means you're able to recline on your couch and enjoy the big TV... yes, you can use your PC on the big TV with a mouse, but it's a real pain in the ass to use a mouse on a sofa without having to hunch over a table. Try using mouse & keyboard while reclining, with your feet up.

Or split the difference with a Detroit Lean...

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