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2014-06-01 5:05:11 PM  
Outside of a sterile laboratory, your are going to find germs. This is why we evolved an immune system. Did these researchers also check the water, the glass, the dispensing equipment, the...

I refuse to live in fear.
 
2014-06-01 5:13:00 PM  
The world is full of cowards.
 
2014-06-01 5:14:48 PM  
Oh FFS. Welcome to the world. The world has germs. It also has bullies, politicians, people who will break your heart, thieves, STDs, and lots of other maladies. Deal with it, Cupcake.
 
2014-06-01 5:43:30 PM  
I died from a lemon :(
 
2014-06-01 5:51:11 PM  
As a chef, I pretty much challenge my immune system daily. I handle raw chicken, I handle raw meat, I wash those vegetables and goodies, and I wash my hands, and I use gloves. But here's the thing: your hands likewise transfer microbes to whatever you touch.

I throw out any plate that comes back from a table. I would rather remake the dish, than expose my grill or my cooking surfaces to the sh*t that a patron exposes their food to. My people? They wash their hands 50-100 times a day, minimum. We use gloves. We sanitize surfaces. We heat treat dishes that go through the machine before they go back into circulation. We sanitize our knives and cutting boards. Your knife? That you touched with your grimy hands, I don't trust it. It goes directly into the soak when it comes back, and your plate goes directly to the dishwasher. I'd rather make the whole thing again, than risk putting anything that went to the public back anywhere NEAR the food I'm putting out. Because y'all are a cesspool for contamination. My people? I KNOW that they are washing their hands. You? I can't guarantee that you washed your hands before you left the bathroom. I can't guarantee what in the hell you touched BEFORE you put your mitts onto a knife and fork, a glass or a plate.

You send me back a steak? You're getting a new one. A new plate. I'd rather absorb that cost, than risk putting anything that went onto your table--and got exposed to Gods knows what you brought in with you--contaminating my service line. I sanitize surfaces regularly. I have HACCP procedures to follow, and part of that is NOT exposing my line to your germy ass plates, that have touched your germy ass hands, and been exposed to whatever the f*ck you might have drooled or mouthed or crumbed over. You send a steak back? Guess what? The staff has NO desire to eat the f*cker, because we have no idea what in the Hells you might be carrying. You send a pasta dish back? Right into the circular file. No one is taking that thing home, because the customer touched it. You are the uncontrollable factor in our equation. We know the temps, the possible exposures, we can track that sh*t from the point it comes in, to the time it leaves to the table, and once it leaves us, we don't want it back, because we have NO idea what you have done with your hands, and we have no idea what in the heck you might be carrying. Doesn't go to the table? Mistake, that the waitstaff catch before it heads out? Dishwasher has a free meal. Drink that got made by mistake and never hit the table? Guy on grill may split that with guy on the fryer. Pitcher of the wrong margaritas? Party in the back! Once it hits the table? That sh*t is considered toxic and treated like any other waste. Because the public is essentially considered a risk factor that we can't control. HACCP procedures point anything that the public has touched is just gone, mang...
 
2014-06-01 6:03:47 PM  
I'm told that Hendrick's gin kills all the worst the lime can give me.
 
2014-06-01 6:05:46 PM  
Oh heck, more stupidity from Huff. For as long as I remember,every fruit/citrus/etc involved with old folks has required a sanitizing bath followed by multiple rinses. Crap, I drink lemon water and get the pre-packaged stuff.
 
2014-06-01 6:06:12 PM  
As someone who is alive, I can attest that getting killed in the face is a most unpleasant occurence and should be avoided if at all possible.
 
2014-06-01 6:08:37 PM  

jasonvatch: Outside of a sterile laboratory, your are going to find germs. This is why we evolved an immune system. Did these researchers also check the water, the glass, the dispensing equipment, the...

I refuse to live in fear.


And we have a winner.

This is the same sort of article that equates "chemicals in your food" with panic.
 
2014-06-01 6:09:19 PM  
If this bothers you, coat all your food with Purell before ingesting.

Please.
 
2014-06-01 6:10:11 PM  
I don't like lemon in my water because it's gross. I don't care how clean the lemon slice is, I DON'T WANT IT IN MY WATER.
 
2014-06-01 6:10:54 PM  
Oh for fark's sake.

Every surface of anything in the world that is the right temperature range to support microbial life, and hasn't been scoured with germicide recently, is absolutely covered in bacteria, fungi, yeasts, and other tiny life forms. Only a few of these organisms are harmful, many are helpful. You have more bacteria in your digestive tract than human cells in your body. That's a good thing. Embrace your tiny helpers.
 
2014-06-01 6:11:15 PM  

fusillade762: I don't like lemon in my water because it's gross. I don't care how clean the lemon slice is, I DON'T WANT IT IN MY WATER.


Believe it or not, customers practically demand it.

Yeah I don't get it either.
 
2014-06-01 6:12:04 PM  

jaytkay: If this bothers you, coat all your food with Purell before ingesting.

Please.


Is it just me, or has anyone else noticed that Lysol/purell children get sick more often than regular kids?
 
2014-06-01 6:12:14 PM  
I always assume these sorts of articles are written by people who never worked in food service and don't cook at home either.
 
2014-06-01 6:12:45 PM  
Many years ago I took my Mom and kid sister out for a steak and lobster dinner at a favorite local eatery. At the end of dinner, the waiter would bring each person who had lobster or crab legs or any other messy "finger food" a finger bowl: a bowl of hot water with a slice of lemon in it to wash your hands in.

My sister, all of 13 or 14 at the time, tried to pick hers up and drink it. She was mortified when I explained to her that it wasn't some kind of soup.
 
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2014-06-01 6:14:38 PM  

fusillade762: I don't like lemon in my water because it's gross. I don't care how clean the lemon slice is, I DON'T WANT IT IN MY WATER.


I wouldn't say gross, but I definitely do not like it.  I have been with some people who act like it's the height of snobbery to have a slice of lemon in their water.
 
2014-06-01 6:15:29 PM  

fusillade762: I don't like lemon in my water because it's gross. I don't care how clean the lemon slice is, I DON'T WANT IT IN MY WATER.


Yar, it helps keep away scurvy.

I keep a lemon around me neck fer such porpoises.

/ I am not serial
 
2014-06-01 6:17:27 PM  

hubiestubert: As a chef, I pretty much challenge my immune system daily. I handle raw chicken, I handle raw meat, I wash those vegetables and goodies, and I wash my hands, and I use gloves. But here's the thing: your hands likewise transfer microbes to whatever you touch.

I throw out any plate that comes back from a table. I would rather remake the dish, than expose my grill or my cooking surfaces to the sh*t that a patron exposes their food to. My people? They wash their hands 50-100 times a day, minimum. We use gloves. We sanitize surfaces. We heat treat dishes that go through the machine before they go back into circulation. We sanitize our knives and cutting boards. Your knife? That you touched with your grimy hands, I don't trust it. It goes directly into the soak when it comes back, and your plate goes directly to the dishwasher. I'd rather make the whole thing again, than risk putting anything that went to the public back anywhere NEAR the food I'm putting out. Because y'all are a cesspool for contamination. My people? I KNOW that they are washing their hands. You? I can't guarantee that you washed your hands before you left the bathroom. I can't guarantee what in the hell you touched BEFORE you put your mitts onto a knife and fork, a glass or a plate.

You send me back a steak? You're getting a new one. A new plate. I'd rather absorb that cost, than risk putting anything that went onto your table--and got exposed to Gods knows what you brought in with you--contaminating my service line. I sanitize surfaces regularly. I have HACCP procedures to follow, and part of that is NOT exposing my line to your germy ass plates, that have touched your germy ass hands, and been exposed to whatever the f*ck you might have drooled or mouthed or crumbed over. You send a steak back? Guess what? The staff has NO desire to eat the f*cker, because we have no idea what in the Hells you might be carrying. You send a pasta dish back? Right into the circular file. No one is taking that thing ho ...


While you sound like you are certainly doing your due diligence in those matters.... as a professional, do you think that is the norm, or are you a special case?   (ie, the steaks, I'd always assume they just put it back on for another minute, but, I can certainly see your point).
 
2014-06-01 6:18:05 PM  

jaytkay: If this bothers you, coat all your food with Purell before ingesting.

Please.


I soak all of my food in nearly-pure ethanol so as to sterilize it.
 
2014-06-01 6:18:10 PM  

whidbey: fusillade762: I don't like lemon in my water because it's gross. I don't care how clean the lemon slice is, I DON'T WANT IT IN MY WATER.

Believe it or not, customers practically demand it.

Yeah I don't get it either.


Because it makes the water taste a little less like ass. Most water is not unicorn pee, all sparkles and rainbows, a lot of it tastes like shiat, whether it's from the treatment plant, or from the water supply itself. The western edge of the city here is near s giant copper mine, and whatever is on the water is either from poor mining operations, or the fact that the soil near large metal deposits tends to have a lot of minerals and metals in it. The shiat practically comes out of the faucet brown over there.

Another charming municipal water supply is Phoenix. That's some yummy stuff for sure.

The lemon helps this factor St least a little bit.
 
2014-06-01 6:18:10 PM  

iheartscotch: jaytkay: If this bothers you, coat all your food with Purell before ingesting.

Please.

Is it just me, or has anyone else noticed that Lysol/purell children get sick more often than regular kids?


I'm sure you can read more about it here:

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2014-06-01 6:18:14 PM  
Every time I hear someone order lemon with their water the song Lemon Water by Guttermouth pops into my head.
 
2014-06-01 6:19:30 PM  

Danger Avoid Death: Many years ago I took my Mom and kid sister out for a steak and lobster dinner at a favorite local eatery. At the end of dinner, the waiter would bring each person who had lobster or crab legs or any other messy "finger food" a finger bowl: a bowl of hot water with a slice of lemon in it to wash your hands in.

My sister, all of 13 or 14 at the time, tried to pick hers up and drink it. She was mortified when I explained to her that it wasn't some kind of soup.


But, when did you become your own grandpa?

Many many years ago, when I was 23, I was married to a widow who was purdy as could be....


/ I keed, I keed

// I'm sorry; I had to! It just popped into my noggin when I read your first sentence
 
2014-06-01 6:19:31 PM  

iheartscotch: jaytkay: If this bothers you, coat all your food with Purell before ingesting.

Please.

Is it just me, or has anyone else noticed that Lysol/purell children get sick more often than regular kids?


I only know a couple of Purell families and their kids supposedly have deadly peanut/gluten/bee sting/shrimp/cat hair allergies.

Whether they are actually immune-compromised or just loony hypochondriacs, I do not know.

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2014-06-01 6:20:29 PM  
Been doing it for years because it tastes good. Am not dead as far as I know.
 
2014-06-01 6:21:10 PM  
What's more, the ABC cameras nabbed employees handling lemons with their bare hands.

Does anyone actually expect them to put on gloves every time they make a glass of water?
 
2014-06-01 6:21:47 PM  
This is as stupid as that 'OMG! Keeping your toothbrush in the bathroom is gonna kill you!' crap. If you're any older than a year or two, you've been brushing with a toothbrush that was in the bathroom. If it hasn't killed you yet, then it probably never will.

Same with this. If there's contamination from the kitchen staff, than the same contamination is everywhere else in the restaurant, and if nothing has killed you before, you're probably.

TFA acts like every possible item in a restaurant has gone through an autoclave twice and a UV light purifier 3 times, except this one little lemon wedge.
 
2014-06-01 6:24:08 PM  

Mister Peejay: jaytkay: If this bothers you, coat all your food with Purell before ingesting.

Please.

I soak all of my food in nearly-pure ethanol so as to sterilize it.


Makes cooking porkchops on the grill a whole lot more interesting if they start off flamable.
 
2014-06-01 6:25:29 PM  
Every time you step through your front door, you take chances. If we're just going to be scared of EVERYTHING, why bother? Don't drink the water (tap/bottled), don't shake hands, don't take the subway with less than 3 close buddies with you... whatever. What will they try to have us scared of next?

Yes, I copied it from a previous response of mine.  If the Huffington Post is willing to get this lazy at fear lassoing journalism, that I will be just as lazy at responding to it.
 
2014-06-01 6:25:47 PM  

CruJones: What's more, the ABC cameras nabbed employees handling lemons with their bare hands.

Does anyone actually expect them to put on gloves every time they make a glass of water?


Technically, unless they use a utensil, it's the law. At least here in Seattle.
 
2014-06-01 6:26:11 PM  

CruJones: What's more, the ABC cameras nabbed employees handling lemons with their bare hands.

Does anyone actually expect them to put on gloves every time they make a glass of water?


Tongs, doofus.
 
2014-06-01 6:27:37 PM  
Just because of this article, I'm going to put TWO lemon wedges in my next glass of water from a restaurant!!

/amidoinitright?
//that's the way they do it in the carnivore vs. vegetarian threads
///three slashies!!
 
2014-06-01 6:27:51 PM  
Laura Schocker, you ignorant slut.
 
2014-06-01 6:28:45 PM  

Bob Falfa: Oh FFS. Welcome to the world. The world has germs. It also has bullies, politicians, people who will break your heart, thieves, STDs, and lots of other maladies. Deal with it, Cupcake.


Yeah well if the republicans were not obstructing congress these things would be illegal by now.
 
2014-06-01 6:28:54 PM  

dletter: While you sound like you are certainly doing your due diligence in those matters.... as a professional, do you think that is the norm, or are you a special case?   (ie, the steaks, I'd always assume they just put it back on for another minute, but, I can certainly see your point).


I can't confirm what other places are doing. They have their own HACCP procedures, and while it is generally industry standard in the circles I run in, I couldn't imagine what Mom and Pop joints are doing. Well, I can imagine, and there's a reason why I am picky as Hells with the places I eat at. And mind you, my immune system can pretty much handle whatever's thrown at it, because of constant exposure to all sorts of things thanks to chicken and beef and pork. I don't fear the hotdog vendor cart, because my stomach flora and fauna are hardy bastiches who killz their competition. Doesn't mean that I'm wolfing down prion laden brains into my scrambled eggs for grins, but I have less fear of food borne illness, just because I challenge my immune system on a regular basis thanks to work--and there are plenty of places that just simply don't go into. Yes, I'm looking at several fried chicken joints, I'm looking at more than a couple of diners, and that's because I just don't trust the owners or the operators. And I never recommend a place that I suspect is being dodgy with their procedures. A lot of that has to do with who their suppliers are as much as their food handling. There are purveyors that I just don't trust, and if I know someone is using a vendor I don't trust, there is no way in Hells I'm eating there.
 
2014-06-01 6:29:50 PM  
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2014-06-01 6:30:03 PM  

whidbey: iheartscotch: jaytkay: If this bothers you, coat all your food with Purell before ingesting.

Please.

Is it just me, or has anyone else noticed that Lysol/purell children get sick more often than regular kids?

I'm sure you can read more about it here:


Har Har Har.

But seriously, in the last twenty years, we've seen a serious upswing in vaccine resistant diseases. Diseases, like the measles, that haven't bothered us for a century have started to make comebacks. Some of that is the Anti-Vaxxors, of course. But, all of it?
 
2014-06-01 6:31:32 PM  

fusillade762: I don't like lemon in my water because it's gross. I don't care how clean the lemon slice is, I DON'T WANT IT IN MY WATER.


This. If I want lemon, I'll ask for it on the side, but DO NOT wedge it onto the rim of the glass or (I will kill you!) drop it into the glass.

That said, I don't like lemon in my seltzer anyway.
 
2014-06-01 6:31:33 PM  
In a restaraunt once, and observed the family a few booths away with a young child, typically active (that is, crawling on the floor, then eating something, drooling a little, eating something else, smearing food on the plate, etc.).  The little tyke grabbed both the salt and pepper shakers, and smeared drool covered hands that had been on the floor moments before all over the shiny silver tops of both condiment dispensers.

Parents calmly removed dispensers from toddlers hands, and put them back in the little holder at the end of the table.

To this day, I still look at every bottle of ketchup, every salt shaker, and wonder "What did the person in the booth before me have on their hands, when they touched this?"

Sleep well.
 
2014-06-01 6:31:33 PM  

whidbey: CruJones: What's more, the ABC cameras nabbed employees handling lemons with their bare hands.

Does anyone actually expect them to put on gloves every time they make a glass of water?

Technically, unless they use a utensil, it's the law. At least here in Seattle.



I can't say I've ever seen a bartender don gloves when grabbing a lime wedge out of the tray for a vodka tonic. Or use tongs, that's too hard to wedge it on the rim.
 
2014-06-01 6:33:09 PM  
My earl grey tea scoffs
 
2014-06-01 6:34:21 PM  
DO NOT, for any reason, eat anything that a Democrat doesn't spoon feed directly to you. You might die.
 
2014-06-01 6:35:41 PM  
Unless it's hepatitis, HIV, or something then who cares. You eat more germs from the shiat (literal) the employees put in your burger.
 
2014-06-01 6:36:46 PM  

hubiestubert: You send a steak back? Guess what? The staff has NO desire to eat the f*cker


Don;t you people have dogs? The ex's mutt still insists on eating literal shiat whenever she can and there's literally no way to prevent her from it; somehow I doubt she'll be adversely affected by patronized cow meat.


fusillade762: I don't like lemon in my water because it's gross. I don't care how clean the lemon slice is, I DON'T WANT IT IN MY WATER.


Squeeze the lemon into my drink and throw the rind away. Then pour in some vodka.


El Dudereno: You have more bacteria in your digestive tract than human cells in your body. That's a good thing. Embrace your tiny helpers.


I'M STILL NOT EARING POSSUM SHIAT REGARDLESS OF HOW HEALTHY IT IS. The puppy approves of that idea, more for her that way.


Mikey1969: The lemon helps this factor St least a little bit.


Why not a bit of lemon juice from a bottle? It helps Nikolai Vodka go down easier.


Anyway. FTFA: "His research has turned up similar organisms all over restaurants, from ketchup bottles and salt and pepper shakers to menus and table surfaces. And the same likely goes for a variety of other drink garnishes, including onions, limes and your cherry on top."

That's it, I'm never eating out again. My own germs are bad enough.
 
2014-06-01 6:38:52 PM  
Just read up a bit on food safety, get over your fears, and have yourself a lemon party.
 
2014-06-01 6:40:45 PM  
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2014-06-01 6:41:53 PM  

jasonvatch: Outside of a sterile laboratory, your are going to find germs. This is why we evolved an immune system. Did these researchers also check the water, the glass, the dispensing equipment, the...

I refuse to live in fear.


Why would they? That wasn't the scope of their study.
 
2014-06-01 6:41:58 PM  

hubiestubert: Doesn't mean that I'm wolfing down prion laden brains into my scrambled eggs for grins,


Good. More for me.
 
2014-06-01 6:42:00 PM  

The One True TheDavid: hubiestubert: You send a steak back? Guess what? The staff has NO desire to eat the f*cker

Don;t you people have dogs? The ex's mutt still insists on eating literal shiat whenever she can and there's literally no way to prevent her from it; somehow I doubt she'll be adversely affected by patronized cow meat.


I trim beef pretty much every day; if folks want scraps for their dogs, I provide raw product that is fresh daily. Bartender generally takes home a bit for her dogs every few days. Table scraps? That's not something I encourage, because it's not great for the dogs in general. But that's me.
 
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