OgreMagi: Dusk-You-n-Me: OgreMagi: Fark your white guilt. I did nothing wrong and I'll be damned if I am forced to pay penance for something I did not do.It's not about me, it's about us as a country. We spent hundreds of years with our boot on the neck of black people. We still do today.Yeah, racism is so bad that black men can't even get elected to important offices.
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Boojum2k: Big Ramifications: eat da poo pooIt's somewhat sad, but also typical of Fark (or anywhere on the internet, for that matter), that this was not actually the worst or dumbest comment in the thread.
Animatronik: At the moment half of all black houses receive govt assistance, and 3/4 of the children are born out of wedlock. The eqquivalent statistics for white households hover around 30%. Meanwhile , the socialist welfare state now consumes more than half the federal budget, a third of which is usually borrowed money. 3 out of 4 able bodied black men between the ages of 20 and 60 are not even looking for work, choosing to be on assistance instead. And possibly posting on Fark when the urge hits.We don't need more money going to reparations, we need massive spending cuts and a Congress that wants to pass laws to create incentives for marriage and hard work.
The Southern Dandy: I'm curious as to who gets the reparations? Anyone with black skin? What about white descendants of black slaves? What about blacks whose ancestors were not slaves? Who decides?
Dusk-You-n-Me: OgreMagi: Fark your white guilt. I did nothing wrong and I'll be damned if I am forced to pay penance for something I did not do.It's not about me, it's about us as a country. We spent hundreds of years with our boot on the neck of black people. We still do today.
Dusk-You-n-Me: Abox: I'm not racially sinning today either so leave me out of it.For the second time, it's not about you. It's about America. Jesus christ.
cchris_39: I'm all for reparations.Anybody who's not happy here should renounce their citizenship and receive free plane ticket back to the county of their birth and $1,000 in cash.
COMALite J: Where's the city that was attacked from the air (the first U.S. city ever to have that happen to it, and the only one until 9/11) for being Irish or Italian...
pendy575: Do calling someone a colonial is ok then!Got itBecause colonials were murders right?
Waldo Pepper: Stop talking about the problem and stop trying to assign blame and just fix it.
Clemkadidlefark: Italians, Irish, Native tribes .. uh let's see .. Jews, indentured English, Dutch, French, Scots .. incarcerated Japanese ..But as to those of African genealogy .. it may have been bad for you, but we did kill 600,000+ Americans to set this to rights, plus uprooted and destroyed a million and a half families + who knows how far the ultimate damage spreads when calculating injured on both sides.
Witness99: fat_free: LET'S PAY EVERYBODY! GAYS! WOMEN! CATHOLICS! ASIANS! ITALIANS! NATIVE AMERICANS! INUIT PEOPLES! FAMILIES OF CHILD LABOR!Virgins and guys with no game!
Waldo Pepper: Why does every black person think that whites have in-roads to the marketplace because of where they started?
fat_free: LET'S PAY EVERYBODY! GAYS! WOMEN! CATHOLICS! ASIANS! ITALIANS! NATIVE AMERICANS! INUIT PEOPLES! FAMILIES OF CHILD LABOR!
lilplatinum: But it doesn't make the North more racist, as it isn't.
Freudian_slipknot: Waldo Pepper: heck it is best to keep life calm and quiet around where you live to keep the police away.Again, this assumes that the criminals live in my neighborhood and just take an el train downtown to rob the yuppies. Why do you assume that there are any more criminals living in my area than in any other in the city?Oh, right, because I mentioned that I live in a non-white-majority area. Clearly, my neighbors are all gang-bangers who just don't want to shiat where they eat, and there's nothing to steal here because blacks are poors.Once again, anyone pretending that racism is even remotely dead in this country is a farking nutbag.
Trail of Dead: trevzie: Trail of Dead: vernonFL: OgreMagi: Fark your white guilt. I did nothing wrong and I'll be damned if I am forced to pay penance for something I did not do.You, your parents, your grandparents, got better treatment and benefited from racism.You as a person and your friends and family are where they are today in part because of institutional racism.You did nothing wrong, but you were born into and grew up in and now live in a system that is skewed in your favor.We can't have a rational discussion about these things without white people threatening to burn everything to the ground. It's a lost cause, like the global warming debate and the income inequality debate. Otherwise decent, rational whites lose their shiat when these topics come up. I have zero faith in things getting better for black people in America in this century. One day, white America won't hold the absolute power it does now - that's the only hope. So farking glad I don't have kids growing up in this poisonous atmosphere.I think the victim complex is why things aren't getting better for black people. They feel like they can't succeed because they are opressed and it turns into a self fulfilling prophecy because they don't try. The key to getting a good job is getting into a good college, and black people have it pretty easy when it comes to getting accepted into a good college. The system is actually stacked in their favor right now. Granted it's harder to get a good GPA in high school with poverty and a broken home life. But really, it's high school, it's not that hard.Thanks for proving my point.
svanmeter: If this all sounds silly, it's because the whole reparations idea is silly. It's time to move on. I didn't RTFA and have no idea what I'm talking about. I'm like a child that walked into the middle of a movie theater
Waldo Pepper: I think a lot of what is called racism is more culturism. You take a white person from the deep small town south and throw him/her in a group of white people from New Jersey and see how comfortable he/she is around them.
TheEvilOne23: How about you stop asking for free money. Not gonna happen. EVER. No point in wishing for money for something someone did 200 years ago to someone who is long dead. If you could and should get money coming, then I deserve 1 billion dollars from the NAACP, I was mugged by a black guy. Seems to me ever since Obamass was elected it's been "Let's bash Whitey" and has been for 6 years. Cannot wait til this asshat is out of office.
cchris_39: vernonFL: 40 acres and a mule, Jack.Sometime around 1965 the dawn of timethe Democrats politiciansfigured out that you only have to promise them that and 90% of them will vote for you whether they ever get it or not.
accelerus: would I suddenly be "allowed" to use the N word like they do without fear of getting beaten up or killed? The double standard that exists there pisses me off
Big Ramifications: Boojum2k: Big Ramifications: eat da poo pooIt's somewhat sad, but also typical of Fark (or anywhere on the internet, for that matter), that this was not actually the worst or dumbest comment in the thread.Your comment literally made me LOL.I smile a lot reading Fark, I rarely LOL. Cheers!
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Befuddled: If they want some form of reparations, then they should be asking for parity in education and opportunity so that poor people have something close to an equal chance of succeeding.
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Waldo Pepper: Rincewind53: Waldo Pepper: BlueDWarrior: Those quotes to me speak to one of the problems today. Black Wealth right now is being generated in mostly the entertainment pursuits because that is one of the few areas that we can have complete agency over. Two of the more celebrated instances of black wealth, Oprah Winfrey and Ervin Johnson got their money to start with by being entertainers (yes I lump pro athletes in with entertainers).It has been notoriously difficult for Blacks to generate wealth by other means because we have to start from zero. And then we have to fight with everyone else that might already have in-roads to the marketplace just because of where they started at.Eventually we as a people will get there, it's just that we are starting from really far behind.Why does every black person think that whites have in-roads to the marketplace because of where they started? I will agree that those in lets us the term "Planter class" have the in-roads and that class isn't just white folks anymore. Those who have the money and power want to keep it within their little group and regardless of the color of your skin it is a hard place to get in.Again, you are incorrect. This has been studied by actual scientists, not just using anecdotes. A black person with no criminal background has roughly the same chance of being hired as a white felon. The idea that black people get hired more than white people for the same job is patently false and demonstrably untrue.you can have your studies, i prefer real world where I did the hiring and a lot of entry level jobs and also skilled mechanical jobs also some management jobs. I can assure you that a black person with no criminal background had a much greater chance at being hired than a white felon. the funny thing about the majority of customers is that they don't care what race, color, religion the person behind the counter is as long as that employee is professional, knowledgeable and friendly.
trappedspirit: Nice touch. Is this how people who can understand and appreciate this type of article act? Then I say, no thank you, kind sir. If overbearing judgmental sanctimonious pricks are the type attracted to this article's content, I must say, nay. Nay I say.
poot_rootbeer: Waldo Pepper: poot_rootbeer: Waldo, what race do you self-identify as?AmericanNo, seriously. What color are you?I'm white, and that's relevant to everything that's happened to me in my life.
Babwa Wawa: Boojum2k: A large part of it comes from people either afraid of or fatigued by the racism claim.This is why people need to RTFA. For those fatigued (white) Americans, it's an eye-opener.
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ox45tallboy: No Such Agency: vernonFL: [www.normanadams.org image 850x540]Norman Rockwell could paint corny wholesome Americana with the best of them, but when he laid down the hammer, he farking laid it down. That painting, as stylized and as intentionally string-pulling as it is, gives me the chills every single time.I like this pic:[www.eurweb.com image 850x566]The woman Obama is talking to is Ruby Bridges, the little girl in the painting.They're viewing the painting in the White House.
Nemo's Brother: Why have blacks lagged so far behind Asians, the Irish, Latinos and every other single minority that was poorly mistreated at one point in time in our country?
eljasbo: Isn't affirmative action the reparations? That is in itself it's own form of racism.
Miss Alexandra: Never mind that blacks owned slaves too. In fact the first slave owner in America was--wait for it!--black! http://topconservativenews.com/2012/03/americas-first-slave-owner-was - a-black-man/What about Arabs involved in the slave trade? Why aren't the race hustlers shaking them down? (Maybe they're afraid that the Arabs will declare jihad? Who knows....)How about the fact that slavery still goes on in Africa even today?You can take that white guilt, shine it up, turn it sideways (I think you know the rest)....As far as I'm concerned, blacks have already gotten reparations. It's known as Section 8, welfare, and various other kinds of freebies.Victimhood is an industry nowadays, it seems....
Kittypie070: The damned issue NEEDS SIMPLY TO BE DISCUSSED FIRST.
phenn: You might wish to read a history book there, kitty cat.
vernonFL: OgreMagi: Fark your white guilt. I did nothing wrong and I'll be damned if I am forced to pay penance for something I did not do.You, your parents, your grandparents, got better treatment and benefited from racism.You as a person and your friends and family are where they are today in part because of institutional racism.You did nothing wrong, but you were born into and grew up in and now live in a system that is skewed in your favor.
Yogimus: Give me the name of your ancestor that was a slave.
Rincewind53: He also makes powerful points against those who say "But my family only came here in 1900!" Those people are perfectly happy to talk about how awesome George Washington was, how important the Declaration of Rights is, and are happy to take credit for that aspect of being American. But they refuse to accept any responsibility for any negative aspect of the American experience. T-NC writes of this: "To celebrate freedom and democracy while forgetting America's origins in a slavery economy is patriotism à la carte."
Phinn: Any person who was enslaved should be awarded restitution from the person who violated his rights.Does anyone here know anyone like that?
Babwa Wawa: Ah, yes. Directly addressed in the article.I'm sensing a trend here. People don't want to sit down and read something that can't be consumed in less than 60 seconds, yet feel compelled to offer an opinion.
Dusk-You-n-Me: This article moves the discussion forward on we as a country atone for our racial sins -- not just of the past, but also the ones we are committing today.
Dusk-You-n-Me: Abox: My family didn't come here til around 1900 so don't blame me.You're not to blame. But that's not the point. America is to blame. This article moves the discussion forward on we as a country atone for our racial sins -- not just of the past, but also the ones we are committing today.
Babwa Wawa: People don't want to sit down and read something that can't be consumed in less than 60 seconds, yet feel compelled to offer an opinion.
IlGreven: itcamefromschenectady: Do Jews deserve money because of the Holocaust, if they didn't personally live through it?...they got an entire country. What have blacks gotten other than centuries of oppression?
itcamefromschenectady: Do Jews deserve money because of the Holocaust, if they didn't personally live through it?
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