DrBenway: Rolling Stone used to have a pretty good reputation for digging into stories like this. Do they still do longer form stuff, or is this the extent of it?
xanadian: Except kangaroos are cute. I don't see the problem here
ArkAngel: In re Gault, the mentioned case that brought the Constitution to juvenile courts is quite farked up.Gerald Gault was accused of making an obscene phone call by a neighbor. He was arrested without his parents being informed, held without notification of the charges, not allowed an attorney, and not allowed to confront his accuser. The witnesses weren't sworn in and there was no record taken.He was then sentenced to six years in juvenile detention. If he was 18 when accused, the maximum would have been two months and a $50 fine.
xanadian: Also also...
Sudo_Make_Me_A_Sandwich: DrBenway: Rolling Stone used to have a pretty good reputation for digging into stories like this. Do they still do longer form stuff, or is this the extent of it?Matt Taibbi did some of the hands-down best coverage of the shenanigans going on in the financial sector, not just the mortgage scandal but things like the rigging of municipal bonds. Sadly, he left for First Look media and hasn't done so much as a blog post in months.
FitzShivering: Other than publish his new book?
ski9600: From the photo in the farking article: Colorado recently passed a law meant to address the denial of counsel to children in juvenile court.From the article: Earlier this month, Colorado scored a victory for juveniles in criminal proceedings by passing House Bill 1032, a law that will ensure that all children will be represented by counsel when they appear in court./i won't read beyond that point
Mugato: xanadian: Except kangaroos are cute. I don't see the problem hereObviously you've never boxed one. They fight dirty.[www.heykiki.com image 387x341]
HammerHeadSnark: FTA: . . . undocumented children entering the country may find themselves in deportation proceedings without the assistance of counsel. "I've seen kids as young as five go into court without a lawyer," says Wendy Young, president of Kids In Need of Defense (KIND), which represents unaccompanied immigrant and refugee children.[southjerseylawfirm.com image 331x222]I don't care, kid, you're going to jail.
Ivandrago: I'm just glad to know that this doesn't happen in my jurisdiction.
Fark like a Barsoomian: Ivandrago: I'm just glad to know that this doesn't happen in my jurisdiction.*checks profile*Very funny.
LegacyDL: ..but Boomers are right about everything!I mean aren't The Beatles the best band of all time, and isn't "Revolver" the best album ever made and makes Mozart's entire body of work look like a Creed/Nickelback mashup?
Mugato: If the article is true then that's pretty farked up.
TheEdibleSnuggie: Wait...Isn't this the same magazine who gave that Tsarnaev asshole the rockstar treatment- with a boyish picture for naive girls to swoon over- on the cover of their 'magazine' along with the headlining story?Oh, and didn't they also give one of the most canned editorial responses to intentionally creating their controversy by saying that since Deer Jerky Czar is about the same age as their tired, egotistical, and arrogant reader base, that his story deserves the coverage because Rolling Stone is a 'serious' periodical, and...you know...we need to sell magazines (that one article doubled its newsstand sales)?Yeah, fark this magazine. I agree that the juvy system in this country needs some serious overhaul. But Rolling Stone isn't going to be my credible source for hard journalism on this topic.
cirby: Of course, what gets left out is that a lot of juvies go to court with their parents, and that the parents are quite happy to send Junior off for a stint in juvenile hall so the little monster will stop stealing everything in sight or beating the crap out of Grandma.
OgreMagi: Parents, teach your kids the right things to say, for example:"I want an attorney."
MisterLoki: You are a moron, subby.
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