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2014-05-09 08:11:35 PM  

ZAZ: Here's the fee schedule for Massachusetts: MGL 262-41. Summary: the maximum a notary public can charge is $1.25, and some documents are cheaper.

More generally, see: http://www.punny.org/money/maximum-notary-fees-by-state-dont-get-ripp e d-off-by-big-fat-notary-guys/.

MI also has a set price for notarizing, which means walmart may not bother with our two states.  The only bad part is, trying to find a notary public.  Basically look for a small shop who does notary public as a way to get a few extra people in their doors.  The last time I had something notarized, we had to hunt for hours for one because several gave up on it, and the one we did find was in a little shop I wouldn't have any other reason to be there.

echomike23: wal-mart got me a $2.1 million gift card.


//You didn't think they would give you money that could be spent elsewhere did you?
2014-05-09 08:47:25 PM  

OnlyM3: You're just not Hoping hard enough

Hope harder, your oba-messiah is surely a god! Perhaps he is deep in thought, or busy, or traveling. Maybe he is sleeping and must be awakened.

Did you just have a stroke?
2014-05-09 09:27:43 PM  

Jclark666: charlesmartel11235: CSB but I'm a double major in English Literature and Computer Science and a lot of people have told me that i should go into patent law with that combo. And my cousin went to state school law school and does patent law now and he seems to do fine. Does that check out?

A technical background is a terrible handicap to being a patent attorney. (This isn't snark.) It means you'll be inclined to be better at finding possible prior art which leaves you in the position of either including that information on your clients' patent applications, or being an unethical dumbass who's eventually going to get caught deliberately leaving information off of applications.

So, you're thinking, that means I'd be better as an offensive patent attorney, challenging ridiculous patents. No, understanding a technical issue generally means you think about it on an entirely different level than a potential juror who works the third shift at Wal-Mart. You actually speak a different language than them. It's even harder, because the defense will defend against your prior art with convoluted nuances that they'll deliberately float way above the jury's head. You have to explain how those nuances don't make a difference and to do so, you actually have to make them understand what those nuances are. You spend your entire rebuttal explaining the defense's case for them, and to Bob the night stocker, it sounds like you're agreeing with them.

This is because you will try to win the case on the fact that you're technically correct, while the other side will win on the fact that people are fairly easy to manipulate when they don't understand something but want to look like they do. They'll agree with you because you nod and smile and make agreement seem obvious, right?

Um, apparently you're not aware that a technical background is a requirement to be a patent lawyer?
2014-05-09 09:30:48 PM  
Hate to break it to you, but it's been like that for a while now. Patent/IP is still in demand, but general practitioners and other specialists have been going out of work for a while now.
2014-05-09 11:46:56 PM  

deforge: "The firm charges $99 for a simple will, $25 to notarize a document, and $19 to notarize additional documents. Prices are lower because of the volume, Koke says. "

wait wut?

in NY a fedex kinkos / notarizes a document for $5. when a document required to be notarized by a FI a bank i was not a customer of did it for me $5-10.

you can only charge $10 max in florida for most notorized things
2014-05-10 12:10:35 AM  

Hz so good: El Supe: $25 to get a document notarized in Canada, that seems awfully high, I've gotten it done at a public library in the USA  for a nominal fee

Don't most banks offer notarization, if you're an account holder?

Banks/brokerages offer a different thing, called a Medallion Signature Guarantee, which is used for stuff like cashing in savings bonds. This is not to be confused with a notary seal. A lot of the time they get someone certified to do both, because often you need both on the same set of forms, and people like that, but they aren't by any means required to have a notary on staff.

In some states, ALL lawyers admitted to the bar are automatically able to notarize as "Commissioner of the Superior Court" or the like (CT is one that does this), though.

/tax-and-estate paralegal, we deal with forms that need both very frequently
2014-05-10 12:16:16 AM  
"Welcome to Wal*Mart ma'am, you've been served," *hands her divorce proceeding papers*.  This can't possibly be a bad idea.
2014-05-10 12:44:56 AM  
I think people are focusing on the wrong thing when it comes to the quote mentioning the $25 notarization fee.  The critical element is charging only $99 per will.  You've gotta get a lot of people through the door for $99 per will to turn into real profit.
2014-05-10 09:47:38 AM  

charlesmartel11235: CSB but I'm a double major in English Literature and Computer Science and a lot of people have told me that i should go into patent law with that combo. And my cousin went to state school law school and does patent law now and he seems to do fine. Does that check out?

Depends what you mean by "computer science".  The stereotypical CompSci degree is usually not enough.  You typically need an engineering degree or can prove you've had the schooling or experience equivalent to one.*

Join the USPTO as an examiner.  We're hiring.  We make same/more money than prosecution patent attorneys per hour and work less hours per week. We have overtime if you want to work the extra hours to make even more, we have flexible hours and schedules, you can telework from anywhere in the continental US after you hit GS12 with zero reporting requirements to HQ, and we are the #1 place to work in the federal government.

*Look at job listings below to see what alternatives you have to meet the "Engineering" requirement.

Alexandria VA:  https://www.usajobs.gov/GetJob/ViewDetails/365086800
Denver CO:   https://www.usajobs.gov/GetJob/ViewDetails/359901300

Also, they'll be restarting the law-school reimbursement program here in the near future.
2014-05-10 12:42:22 PM  

v15: 2 paths to go...CPA or tax attorney...hmmm.

My personal advice?  CPA... because then you can transition to MBA and be a prime executive candidate.
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