Fark_Guy_Rob: I'm not a cop - so I'm only speculating but......I'm okay with this. This is what I want cops in my neighborhood to do.No seriously.Look, if someone phoned 911 and reported a murder - and they kept playing cards; that's a different story. That's a real problem. But there are types of jobs where you don't do anything for a lot of the time. We had night-security at the last company I worked for. Their job was to sit around, and wait, for something to happen. If nothing is happening, they have nothing to do. You are paying them, so that they will be around when something happens.What *should* these cops be doing? I mean, sure, maybe in some parts of some countries there is just a never-ending pile of criminals and the cops and patrol the streets and catch them. But in most places, nothing is happening on a Tuesday night. Just regular people doing regular stuff. These guys could go somewhere and hassle minorities or pull over people doing 2-3mph over the limit. But neither would make things any better. They're on duty, they are ready to go, and they are waiting for something to do. That's part of the time.You see this in a lot of jobs. If you want to get upset, get upset at the people running things that allocate resources to places where there is downtime.This isn't like a road construction job where employees are paid to build a road, then go home. Cops are meant to *maintain* the laws of the land. Jobs like that are never finished. I used to work at McDonalds as a cashier. When we had no customers, I stood around with my thumb up my butt waiting for customers. If you sent me home, when customers came we would have no cashiers. Same thing.
Gyrfalcon: I don't know what people think cops DO at 3 a.m. when there's no active calls besides patrol and hang out at the 7-11 and try to stay alert.
AverageAmericanGuy: Meanwhile we're all reading Fark at work and no one seems to give a shiat about that. I guess double standards and hypocrisy is still okay, eh subby?
Frederick: Would you care to weigh in on the article? Or maybe shed some inside light on the practices of cops on patrol during slow times? I'd be interested....
Billy Bathsalt: Better than them wandering around looking for people to bother.
CruiserTwelve: I've head cops rationalize such behavior by pointing out that firefighters get to sleep on company time when they're not actively doing something. Not sure if I agree with that or not.
skinink: Why is expecting an officer to patrol his area the equivalent to Farkers of "watching the cops ride around for someone to harass"? There's never a happy middle ground with Farkers. These cops could do a patrol just to keep an eye on things. Doesn't mean they have to stop someone if nothing is going on or if everything looks normal.
NFA: To be fair, if they're playing cards and smoking cigars on the taxpayer dime, at least they aren't doing the things seen in the youtube video below.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CtWNyBTrIQc
omeganuepsilon: That's the argument you need to resort to? They were "nowhere"?
omeganuepsilon: Typical of the rest of your sunday morning troll-fest.
Bit'O'Gristle: True, but as i said, you can't expect them to drive around all shift.
Bit'O'Gristle: /True, but as i said, you can't expect them to drive around all shift. If i had pulled that shiat on duty, i would have been standing tall before my LT, explaining why i put 200 miles on the squad car. The general operation of a squad is, (esp at night) you check closed businesses, do some random patrol, maybe run some radar, and park somewhere waiting for a call. I don't care if they were playing cards or singing campfire songs. They were awake, and ready to respond to emergencies. Now, if they had IGNORED calls, i would have an issue. But seeing as how every other "emergency" profession gets to fark off and watch tv, play cards, or whatever, I'm not going to get all derpy on a few cops who are just tying to stay awake on slow nights. Sounds to me its just a few people who don't generally like cops biatching to the news trying to start shiat.
Bit'O'Gristle: And as a retired cop, i can say i have worked many third shifts, and seconds, that after you check businesses, there is NOTHING going on. No calls, and no traffic. Esp early in the morning.
Bit'O'Gristle: Do you expect firefighters to drive around in their fire trucks looking for fire all the time?
ongbok: Were they ignoring calls to smoke and play cards? If not, so what.
Gyrfalcon: Lenny_da_Hog: Gyrfalcon: I don't know what people think cops DO at 3 a.m. when there's no active calls besides patrol and hang out at the 7-11 and try to stay alert.Patrolling is a pretty important function in a downtown area.....which I said.But there's nothing wrong with taking a break...just not for three hours. And I find it hard to believe their radio didn't go off even once. Did anyone check with their dispatcher to see if they were on pager? (Which is what my guys used to call it when they were taking a nap and had their radios off)(But they were security guards so it didn't matter as much)
croesius: "Phoenix City Manager Ed Zuercher said after reviewing the video. "I'd also tell people when they see that, don't wait for months to let us know." "Yea, don't wait months collecting evidence, proving that it is a long-running trend of wasting taxpayers money...tell us immediately so we can say "oh, it was just this one time, no problem"
staplermofo: Frederick: . If it were city road construction crews sloughing off, I'd feel differently about it being hypocritical.The only sloughing I can think of humans doing is during menstruation... am I missing something?
CruiserTwelve: fusillade762: So they'll have plenty of time to play cards during their paid vacationsVacations are extra fun when you have to worry about whether you'll have a job to come back to, huh?Cops are placed on paid leave because they haven't yet been charged with any violations, either criminal or internal. Being on paid leave means the agency still has control over you and can order you in at any time, like to be questioned by internal affairs. It's a way to temporarily get the cop off the street and still be able to control him. Once charges are filed, either internal charges or criminal charges, the leave will become non-paid.
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