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(Slate)   I'll see your crazy ex-sheriff who says the Bundy ranch incident was all about Rosa Parks and Nazis, and raise you a stupid columnist who says it's all about racism and Obama and Fox News   (slate.com) divider line
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2498 clicks; posted to Politics » on 16 Apr 2014 at 9:06 PM (8 years ago)   |   Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook



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2014-04-16 5:09:59 PM  
Isn't faux nuze all about Obama 24/7?
 
2014-04-16 5:19:50 PM  
This was purely a grassroots driven controversy.  And by "grassroots", I mean FOX News and Rush Limbaugh.
 
2014-04-16 6:29:16 PM  
Oh sweet jeebus, this story just keeps on giving.

/like the herp
 
2014-04-16 7:51:07 PM  
If the rancher had been black he probably wouldn't have gotten away with breaking the law for 20 years. That's just a guess.
 
2014-04-16 8:04:45 PM  
Submitter does know that Sean Hannity made this a cause celebre, right?  You know, the punchable guy from Fox News?
 
2014-04-16 8:57:04 PM  
Rarely has a case so revealed the conservative id. It's all about the illegitimacy of the rule of the other.
 
2014-04-16 8:59:56 PM  

oldernell: Isn't faux nuze all about Obama 24/7?


No, it's all about making Obama look bad 24/7
 
2014-04-16 9:08:42 PM  
I thought it was all about an asshole being an asshole, but it's not like I've been reading thoroughly about this thing...
 
2014-04-16 9:11:05 PM  

fusillade762: If the rancher had been black he probably wouldn't have gotten away with breaking the law for 20 years. That's just a guess.


In Nevada he might. Except there is probably only one black rancher in all of Nevada.
 
2014-04-16 9:11:19 PM  
how soon can it be about a B-52 strike ending the damn thing?
 
2014-04-16 9:13:48 PM  
I RTFA. I didn't think there was anything stupid in it.
 
2014-04-16 9:15:28 PM  

BSABSVR: You know, the punchable guy from Fox News?


That's like saying, "You know, the blonde woman on Fox News".
 
2014-04-16 9:20:15 PM  

Gyrfalcon: In Nevada he might. Except there is probably only one black rancher in all of Nevada.


What, you mean Steve?
 
2014-04-16 9:21:08 PM  

Repo Man: I RTFA. I didn't think there was anything stupid in it.


Agreed. It was largely just pointing out a kind of hypocrisy from the right wing media about their coverage versus other news stories, and wondering aloud if the response would be the same for a given hypothetical scenario. The only reason I can realistically imagine someone's panties in a wad over this article is if that person has a persecution complex.
 
2014-04-16 9:22:02 PM  

Kome: Repo Man: I RTFA. I didn't think there was anything stupid in it.

Agreed. It was largely just pointing out a kind of hypocrisy from the right wing media about their coverage versus other news stories, and wondering aloud if the response would be the same for a given hypothetical scenario. The only reason I can realistically imagine someone's panties in a wad over this article is if that person has a persecution complex.


Which describes most of Bundy's supporters, so there's that.
 
2014-04-16 9:23:16 PM  
Is it time to care about this yet?
 
2014-04-16 9:24:00 PM  
Well at least subby got the plural of Nazis correct and didn't put in a comma like the subby did in the  previous thread.
 
2014-04-16 9:25:15 PM  
Timothy McVeigh would've loved Fox News.
 
2014-04-16 9:26:55 PM  

elchip: What the fark's a Lommy Bundy Ranch?


It's like the Bunny Ranch, only really, REALLY disappointing.
 
2014-04-16 9:27:03 PM  

thismomentinblackhistory: Is it time to care about this yet?


This wasn't ever actually a secret, and has been going on for like two decades, to the point that 'brady ranch' is actually a colloquialism in the southwest for this kind of sovereign-citizen style stupidity.

If you didn't care about it 20 years ago I don't see why you should suddenly start caring about it now.
 
2014-04-16 9:27:23 PM  

Repo Man: I RTFA. I didn't think there was anything stupid in it.


Well, I guess where the columnist ponders whether the right wing would support Mr. Bundy if he were black. Mr. Bundy is not black and since there is no chance that his skin color will change any time soon. it's kind of pointless. The main issue is that Mr. Bundy illegally refuses to pay his fees and frankly, I don't give a fig whether Sean Hannity supports the squatter or not.
 
2014-04-16 9:27:41 PM  

Kome: Repo Man: I RTFA. I didn't think there was anything stupid in it.

Agreed. It was largely just pointing out a kind of hypocrisy from the right wing media about their coverage versus other news stories, and wondering aloud if the response would be the same for a given hypothetical scenario. The only reason I can realistically imagine someone's panties in a wad over this article is if that person has a persecution complex.


I disagree. The right wing noise machine's behavior and spin has been loathsome. There's no need to introduce hypothetical racism to prove anything here. It distracts from the more important story about what they've actually been doing (encouraging and cheerleading acts of terrorism).
 
2014-04-16 9:28:35 PM  
Sorry, "Bundy ranch", rather.  Too much beer.
 
2014-04-16 9:29:36 PM  
What if Bundy Ranch Were Owned by a Bunch of Black People?

I'd be calling a bunch of black people idiots.  As it is, I'm calling a bunch of white people idiots.

That would be the only difference for me, anyway
 
2014-04-16 9:31:02 PM  
I'm sure two or three tanks could sort this shiat out quickly. Seriously, I have no idea why they don't just put these people down. Peaceful protest is fine but when you start brandishing weapons at representatives of the federal government, you should be immediately reduced to a stain on the ground.
 
2014-04-16 9:36:06 PM  

Lionel Mandrake: What if Bundy Ranch Were Owned by a Bunch of Black People?

I'd be calling a bunch of black people idiots.  As it is, I'm calling a bunch of white people idiots.

That would be the only difference for me, anyway





If the rancher were an old black dude pulling this, I'd have to imagine that he'd have had many fewer people responding to his call for help from the militias. I could be wrong, but I don't think Eric Parker from Idaho would have been pointing his rifle through the gap in the bridge barriers on behalf of some black dude. But maybe I've got Idaho militia members all wrong.
 
2014-04-16 9:36:28 PM  

Poopspasm: I'm sure two or three tanks could sort this shiat out quickly. Seriously, I have no idea why they don't just put these people down. Peaceful protest is fine but when you start brandishing weapons at representatives of the federal government, you should be immediately reduced to a stain on the ground.


Problem is, the Alex Joneses and Rush Limbaughs of the world will spin it into their modern-day Ruby Ridge and Waco, then the people who listen to them will spin that into their brand new Oklahoma City.

These guys have been cowering in fear of imaginary jack booted thugs, waiting for their moment to live out their Rambo fantasies. In this case, for the feds, it's good to play the long game.
 
2014-04-16 9:37:24 PM  
Bundy got a bad rap:

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2014-04-16 9:39:40 PM  

Jim_Callahan: Sorry, "Bundy ranch", rather.  Too much beer.


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I can certainly see how you could confuse them.
 
2014-04-16 9:41:17 PM  

fusillade762: If the rancher had been black he probably wouldn't have gotten away with breaking the law for 20 years. That's just a guess.


I'd say that's a damn good guess, and likely true
 
2014-04-16 9:41:29 PM  
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Bundy should thanks his cracker ass that he's not poor.  They would have capped his desert dwelling ass 20 years ago.
 
2014-04-16 9:42:42 PM  
One of these days, the downtrodden whites of this nation will finally get fed up and seize power from the crazy minorities and overbearing government thugs who have always run it.
 
2014-04-16 9:42:55 PM  

stoli n coke: Poopspasm: I'm sure two or three tanks could sort this shiat out quickly. Seriously, I have no idea why they don't just put these people down. Peaceful protest is fine but when you start brandishing weapons at representatives of the federal government, you should be immediately reduced to a stain on the ground.

Problem is, the Alex Joneses and Rush Limbaughs of the world will spin it into their modern-day Ruby Ridge and Waco, then the people who listen to them will spin that into their brand new Oklahoma City.

These guys have been cowering in fear of imaginary jack booted thugs, waiting for their moment to live out their Rambo fantasies. In this case, for the feds, it's good to play the long game.


Why? It's not like giving them a long leash kept the original OKC from happening. Patronizing them only makes it worse, and they'll eventually invent an excuse to kill anyone who isn't them because that's just kind of what conservatives do (or elect others to do for them).
 
2014-04-16 9:46:06 PM  

stoli n coke: Poopspasm: I'm sure two or three tanks could sort this shiat out quickly. Seriously, I have no idea why they don't just put these people down. Peaceful protest is fine but when you start brandishing weapons at representatives of the federal government, you should be immediately reduced to a stain on the ground.

Problem is, the Alex Joneses and Rush Limbaughs of the world will spin it into their modern-day Ruby Ridge and Waco, then the people who listen to them will spin that into their brand new Oklahoma City.

These guys have been cowering in fear of imaginary jack booted thugs, waiting for their moment to live out their Rambo fantasies. In this case, for the feds, it's good to play the long game.


What they may look like.
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2014-04-16 9:48:47 PM  

Poopspasm: I'm sure two or three tanks could sort this shiat out quickly. Seriously, I have no idea why they don't just put these people down. Peaceful protest is fine but when you start brandishing weapons at representatives of the federal government, you should be immediately reduced to a stain on the ground.


Yep. Had they been "urban," their asses would've gotten ventilated and damned quick. These idiots need to be identified from the video footage and charged appropriately.
 
2014-04-16 9:50:01 PM  
I'll never understand why they didn't turn his place into a parking lot for an amusement park.

Jeez, took them 20 years to even get to THIS point. Tyranny, indeed ...
 
2014-04-16 9:50:12 PM  
The scary thing was the malitia rednecks were armed with ammunition.
 
2014-04-16 9:50:52 PM  
To me he will always be the....

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2014-04-16 9:51:02 PM  

FC Exile: stoli n coke: Poopspasm: I'm sure two or three tanks could sort this shiat out quickly. Seriously, I have no idea why they don't just put these people down. Peaceful protest is fine but when you start brandishing weapons at representatives of the federal government, you should be immediately reduced to a stain on the ground.

Problem is, the Alex Joneses and Rush Limbaughs of the world will spin it into their modern-day Ruby Ridge and Waco, then the people who listen to them will spin that into their brand new Oklahoma City.

These guys have been cowering in fear of imaginary jack booted thugs, waiting for their moment to live out their Rambo fantasies. In this case, for the feds, it's good to play the long game.

What they may look like.
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So federal agents enforcing the law are now jack booted thugs?
 
2014-04-16 9:52:24 PM  

FC Exile: stoli n coke: Poopspasm: I'm sure two or three tanks could sort this shiat out quickly. Seriously, I have no idea why they don't just put these people down. Peaceful protest is fine but when you start brandishing weapons at representatives of the federal government, you should be immediately reduced to a stain on the ground.

Problem is, the Alex Joneses and Rush Limbaughs of the world will spin it into their modern-day Ruby Ridge and Waco, then the people who listen to them will spin that into their brand new Oklahoma City.

These guys have been cowering in fear of imaginary jack booted thugs, waiting for their moment to live out their Rambo fantasies. In this case, for the feds, it's good to play the long game.

What they may look like.


When you threaten rangers with guns and pipe bombs they might just come prepared next time.
 
2014-04-16 9:52:32 PM  

FC Exile: stoli n coke: Poopspasm: I'm sure two or three tanks could sort this shiat out quickly. Seriously, I have no idea why they don't just put these people down. Peaceful protest is fine but when you start brandishing weapons at representatives of the federal government, you should be immediately reduced to a stain on the ground.

Problem is, the Alex Joneses and Rush Limbaughs of the world will spin it into their modern-day Ruby Ridge and Waco, then the people who listen to them will spin that into their brand new Oklahoma City.

These guys have been cowering in fear of imaginary jack booted thugs, waiting for their moment to live out their Rambo fantasies. In this case, for the feds, it's good to play the long game.

What they may look like.
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Is that before or after the armed "militia" was on Bundy's property?

/already know the answer
 
2014-04-16 9:53:13 PM  

grumpfuff: FC Exile: stoli n coke: Poopspasm: I'm sure two or three tanks could sort this shiat out quickly. Seriously, I have no idea why they don't just put these people down. Peaceful protest is fine but when you start brandishing weapons at representatives of the federal government, you should be immediately reduced to a stain on the ground.

Problem is, the Alex Joneses and Rush Limbaughs of the world will spin it into their modern-day Ruby Ridge and Waco, then the people who listen to them will spin that into their brand new Oklahoma City.

These guys have been cowering in fear of imaginary jack booted thugs, waiting for their moment to live out their Rambo fantasies. In this case, for the feds, it's good to play the long game.

What they may look like.
[www.naturalnews.com image 600x400]

So federal agents enforcing the law are now jack booted thugs?


Unfortunately and apparently, yes.
 
2014-04-16 9:53:36 PM  
Damn. Could have had a triple simulpost ...

/yeah, 3 way!
 
2014-04-16 9:53:50 PM  
I am curious on the reaction if the rancher was an Asian midget post op transsexual.
 
2014-04-16 9:56:21 PM  

FC Exile: grumpfuff: FC Exile: stoli n coke: Poopspasm: I'm sure two or three tanks could sort this shiat out quickly. Seriously, I have no idea why they don't just put these people down. Peaceful protest is fine but when you start brandishing weapons at representatives of the federal government, you should be immediately reduced to a stain on the ground.

Problem is, the Alex Joneses and Rush Limbaughs of the world will spin it into their modern-day Ruby Ridge and Waco, then the people who listen to them will spin that into their brand new Oklahoma City.

These guys have been cowering in fear of imaginary jack booted thugs, waiting for their moment to live out their Rambo fantasies. In this case, for the feds, it's good to play the long game.

What they may look like.
[www.naturalnews.com image 600x400]

So federal agents enforcing the law are now jack booted thugs?

Unfortunately and apparently, yes.


Pfft, any thug worth his salt would have left him face down in a drainage ditch with two smoking holes in the back of his head.
 
2014-04-16 9:56:53 PM  

Foundling: how soon can it be about a B-52 strike ending the damn thing?


The Bundy Shack is a little ol place where we can get together

Just remember to bring your jukebox money

/you're welcome for the ear worm
 
2014-04-16 9:57:42 PM  

FC Exile: grumpfuff: FC Exile: stoli n coke: Poopspasm: I'm sure two or three tanks could sort this shiat out quickly. Seriously, I have no idea why they don't just put these people down. Peaceful protest is fine but when you start brandishing weapons at representatives of the federal government, you should be immediately reduced to a stain on the ground.

Problem is, the Alex Joneses and Rush Limbaughs of the world will spin it into their modern-day Ruby Ridge and Waco, then the people who listen to them will spin that into their brand new Oklahoma City.

These guys have been cowering in fear of imaginary jack booted thugs, waiting for their moment to live out their Rambo fantasies. In this case, for the feds, it's good to play the long game.

What they may look like.
[www.naturalnews.com image 600x400]

So federal agents enforcing the law are now jack booted thugs?

Unfortunately and apparently, yes.


Maybe next time a delusional rancher and his buddies defending what they think the Constitution is shouldn't threaten to use force.
 
2014-04-16 9:58:43 PM  

Saiga410: I am curious on the reaction if the rancher was an Asian midget post op transsexual.


My reaction would have been to grab a camera.  That could be some great material.  Unforsnippen, starring Clint Lostwood.
 
2014-04-16 10:00:41 PM  

Repo Man: I RTFA. I didn't think there was anything stupid in it.


You're right but there wasn't much of anything else either. It was short, sweet and utterly pointless. I guess someone had a deadline to meet.
 
2014-04-16 10:01:11 PM  

grumpfuff: FC Exile: stoli n coke: Poopspasm: I'm sure two or three tanks could sort this shiat out quickly. Seriously, I have no idea why they don't just put these people down. Peaceful protest is fine but when you start brandishing weapons at representatives of the federal government, you should be immediately reduced to a stain on the ground.

Problem is, the Alex Joneses and Rush Limbaughs of the world will spin it into their modern-day Ruby Ridge and Waco, then the people who listen to them will spin that into their brand new Oklahoma City.

These guys have been cowering in fear of imaginary jack booted thugs, waiting for their moment to live out their Rambo fantasies. In this case, for the feds, it's good to play the long game.

What they may look like.
[www.naturalnews.com image 600x400]

So federal agents enforcing the law are now jack booted thugs?


They dressed up and rolled out that morning after a briefing that should have gone like this.

"This man hasn't paid his pasture fees in twenty years, so we're going to go out and raid his property"
"Seriously, pasture fees? You want us to dress up like we're taking out a drug cartel for a rancher?"
"We believe him to be armed and an expert shot."
"You'd have to be to remain a rancher in the desert. Otherwise you wouldn't have any live stock left."

Besides, if you really wanted his attention turn over collection of the fees to the IRS. Shut down all his accounts and utilities until he makes a payment plan. Make it so he can't even renew whatever licenses and permits he operates under as is until such a time. But the SWAT types only know a hammer.
 
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