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(Science Magazine)   In New York City, 22 year old Measles Mary contracted measles and passed it along to four others. Difficulty: all five of these people should have been immune. Measles Mary and two of the others had actually been vaccinated   ( divider line
    More: Interesting, Measles Mary, New York City, Clinical Infectious Diseases, Typhoid Mary, measles vaccine, measles, respiratory tract infections  
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2014-04-12 11:06:14 PM  
3 votes:
Fark vaccinations, antibiotics and all that sciency bullshiat. If you die then you were probably possessed by demons and God put you in your place.
2014-04-13 09:57:36 AM  
2 votes:

hardinparamedic: Frederick: Do you actually know of this scenario occurring -and with measles?

In the United States, measles has been declared endemically under control since 2000, with only 153 cases last year, and thankfully no deaths. 11% of the cases required hospitalization due to symptoms or secondary infection, the cost of which can run into the tens of thousands.

Thanks to aggressive global efforts for eradication, measles deaths worldwide only numbered 158,000 people in 2011 - the latest available data from the WHO.

And, thanks to that data, we won't get fooled again.
2014-04-12 11:51:35 PM  
2 votes:

Ambivalence: What is it, 40% of the human genome is derived from viruses? (took a biology class last semester). I always wondered what kind of stuff they left behind. What virus can account for the oddities of human existance? Full Size

Scientists are attempting to confirm the existence of the Reverse Flu virus, which gives the afflicted an unjustified sense of happiness and well-being.  Apparently morning DJs suffer from it constantly.
2014-04-12 10:10:49 PM  
2 votes:

Ambivalence: JoieD'Zen: Frederick: I had the measles (and chicken pox) as a kid.  It's not polio or aids.  Quit being pussies.  And take your damn bicycle helmet off, your riding on the farking bike path.

It wasn't uncommon for parents (50-60's) to expose their kids to another that was sick with mumps or chickenpox so they would get it and be immune.
No helmets and setbelts either.
None of us died or had all these bs 'disorders' either.

Actually, kids did die (even of chicken pox).  That's kind of why they made the vaccines in the first place.

Eh, birthcontrol wasn't so available and there were always  few extra kids around.
2014-04-13 04:27:51 AM  
1 vote:

Gyrfalcon: Currently, if you're not in an at-risk group and are otherwise healthy, there's no reason to get a flu vaccine and use a dose that's needed by the at-risk population. "At-risk" being defined as very young, very old, immuno-compromised, and those working in such populations, such as teachers, healthcare workers and first responders. Healthy adults between the ages of 20-50 with no health problems and no contact with kids on a regular basis are probably okay not to get a flu shot.

Herd immunity levels for the current flu season, taking into account a less-effective uptake vaccine for this year, are around 90% vaccine uptake.

Routine annual flu vaccinations of all persons over 6 months of age are recommended still by the Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices.

Gyrfalcon: That said, if you DO come down with the flu, do the rest of us a favor and stay the f*ck at home so you get better quicker and the rest of us don't get infected thank you very much.

Unfortunately, by the time someone shows symptoms of the flu outright, they've been shedding infectious viral loads (giggity!) for around three to four days, and have exposed countless people around them to the flu virus.
2014-04-13 12:04:53 AM  
1 vote:

Wild Eyed and Wicked: When I was a kid, we lived in a little town with one doctor. I was diagnosed with measles twice. When I was 15, I fell ill and them broke out head to toe in this horrible rash and he again diagnosed me with measles. When my mother told him I had already had them twice, he stated that it was impossible. My mother them told h that he diagnosed me both times and then promptly to me to a emergency room. I actually had toxic shock syndrome that time. Who know what I had the other times...

It's people like you and your TSS that got Rely tampons pulled. I hope you're happy.
2014-04-12 11:31:25 PM  
1 vote:

JoieD'Zen: Triumph: we'refromthesamestory: All vaccinations in general are doing is creating superbacteria

Please proceed.

Antibiotics lower  natural resistance to all diseases and create the superbugs.

Retard or troll.  <notsure.gif>
2014-04-12 11:24:19 PM  
1 vote:

Frederick: Ambivalence: Frederick: Good thing we got rid of all those cars killing children.

Cars are a lot safer for children than they used to be.  That whole frakas about requiring back up cameras is specificly intended to protect children.

Is that true?  I dont know the statistics.  I did just read about a kid getting killed by a car yesterday though.  Havent read about a kid getting killed by measles (although I did just read a story about measles where no one died).

Well, here's a story where a kid did die:

"Olivia, my eldest daughter, caught measles when she was seven years old. As the illness took its usual course I can remember reading to her often in bed and not feeling particularly alarmed about it. Then one morning, when she was well on the road to recovery, I was sitting on her bed showing her how to fashion little animals out of coloured pipe-cleaners, and when it came to her turn to make one herself, I noticed that her fingers and her mind were not working together and she couldn't do anything.

"Are you feeling all right?" I asked her.

"I feel all sleepy, " she said.

In an hour, she was unconscious. In twelve hours she was dead."

The measles had turned into a terrible thing called measles encephalitis and there was nothing the doctors could do to save her.

That was twenty-four years ago in 1962, but even now, if a child with measles happens to develop the same deadly reaction from measles as Olivia did, there would still be nothing the doctors could do to help her.

~Roald Dahl

But hey...

On one side we have almost every single doctor, immunologist and epidemiologist in the world, with millions of collective years of experience and studies involving millions upon millions of adults and children from countries across the globe, spanning decades and in some cases looking at every person in the countries population in decades long experiments.

On the other side we have a former playboy centerfold with a high school education and a tiny, misquoted, and flawed study that didn't even claim to link the MMR vaccine to autism.

Welp - too tough to choose, better risk Junior getting killed by an easily preventable illness than opt for vaccination.
2014-04-12 11:16:10 PM  
1 vote:

Lsherm: Ambivalence: Actually, kids did die (even of chicken pox).  That's kind of why they made the vaccines in the first place.

I was pre-chicken pox vaccine.  If kids were dying, it was very rare.  Chicken-pox parties in the 70's were extremely popular, especially if a patient-zero kid in the neighborhood got it during the summer, because that meant kids wouldn't miss school.  I went to mine in June,1969 with at least ten other kids.  The kid who got it first had a pool at his house, so it was all good as far as we were concerned.

No one died.  And honestly, we were at a far greater risk of drowning than dying of Chicken-pox.

Wait till you get shingles. You'll love it!
2014-04-12 09:34:50 PM  
1 vote:
I assume the the sheer volume of citations for these claims is just too unwieldy to post all at once.
2014-04-12 08:28:45 PM  
1 vote:
Omfg. Vaccinations don't mean immunity. They mean reaistance. All vaccinations in general are doing is creating superbacteria that is one day going to kill us all.
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