hardinparamedic: Frederick: Do you actually know of this scenario occurring -and with measles?In the United States, measles has been declared endemically under control since 2000, with only 153 cases last year, and thankfully no deaths. 11% of the cases required hospitalization due to symptoms or secondary infection, the cost of which can run into the tens of thousands.Thanks to aggressive global efforts for eradication, measles deaths worldwide only numbered 158,000 people in 2011 - the latest available data from the WHO.
Ambivalence: What is it, 40% of the human genome is derived from viruses? (took a biology class last semester). I always wondered what kind of stuff they left behind. What virus can account for the oddities of human existance?
Ambivalence: JoieD'Zen: Frederick: I had the measles (and chicken pox) as a kid. It's not polio or aids. Quit being pussies. And take your damn bicycle helmet off, your riding on the farking bike path.It wasn't uncommon for parents (50-60's) to expose their kids to another that was sick with mumps or chickenpox so they would get it and be immune.No helmets and setbelts either.None of us died or had all these bs 'disorders' either.Actually, kids did die (even of chicken pox). That's kind of why they made the vaccines in the first place.
Gyrfalcon: Currently, if you're not in an at-risk group and are otherwise healthy, there's no reason to get a flu vaccine and use a dose that's needed by the at-risk population. "At-risk" being defined as very young, very old, immuno-compromised, and those working in such populations, such as teachers, healthcare workers and first responders. Healthy adults between the ages of 20-50 with no health problems and no contact with kids on a regular basis are probably okay not to get a flu shot.
Gyrfalcon: That said, if you DO come down with the flu, do the rest of us a favor and stay the f*ck at home so you get better quicker and the rest of us don't get infected thank you very much.
Wild Eyed and Wicked: When I was a kid, we lived in a little town with one doctor. I was diagnosed with measles twice. When I was 15, I fell ill and them broke out head to toe in this horrible rash and he again diagnosed me with measles. When my mother told him I had already had them twice, he stated that it was impossible. My mother them told h that he diagnosed me both times and then promptly to me to a emergency room. I actually had toxic shock syndrome that time. Who know what I had the other times...
JoieD'Zen: Triumph: we'refromthesamestory: All vaccinations in general are doing is creating superbacteriaPlease proceed.Antibiotics lower natural resistance to all diseases and create the superbugs.
Frederick: Ambivalence: Frederick: Good thing we got rid of all those cars killing children.Cars are a lot safer for children than they used to be. That whole frakas about requiring back up cameras is specificly intended to protect children.Is that true? I dont know the statistics. I did just read about a kid getting killed by a car yesterday though. Havent read about a kid getting killed by measles (although I did just read a story about measles where no one died).
Lsherm: Ambivalence: Actually, kids did die (even of chicken pox). That's kind of why they made the vaccines in the first place.I was pre-chicken pox vaccine. If kids were dying, it was very rare. Chicken-pox parties in the 70's were extremely popular, especially if a patient-zero kid in the neighborhood got it during the summer, because that meant kids wouldn't miss school. I went to mine in June,1969 with at least ten other kids. The kid who got it first had a pool at his house, so it was all good as far as we were concerned.No one died. And honestly, we were at a far greater risk of drowning than dying of Chicken-pox.
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