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(Marine Corps Times)   Sergeant Major of the Marine Corps explains how cutting the pay and benefits of junior troops will somehow make make the military a more disciplined, stronger organization   ( marinecorpstimes.com) divider line
    More: Dumbass, stipends, enlisted man, compensation and benefits, Senate Armed Services Committee  
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2014-04-10 06:25:26 PM  
4 votes:
When I was in the Core, the soldiers didn't act this way.
2014-04-10 06:23:11 PM  
3 votes:
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2014-04-10 06:19:52 PM  
3 votes:

meat0918: Isn't cutting pay to the military one of the best ways to start a coup?

Pretty soon the Sargent Major will be marching up and down the square all by himself.
2014-04-10 06:42:04 PM  
2 votes:
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2014-04-10 06:13:03 PM  
2 votes:
If the Marines REALLY loved their country, they'd fight for free.
2014-04-10 06:12:44 PM  
2 votes:
The Marines have done so much with so little for so long, that eventually they will be able to do anything for ever with nothing.
2014-04-11 12:20:05 AM  
1 vote:

MonkeyDavid: It does remind me of a story (possibly true) my Dad once told me (he was an Air Force Colonel):

The U.S. was taking over a base in South Korea. All the military branches were involved. There were already buildings and perfectly good quarters on the base.Air Force showed up an moved into the quarters. Even though there was still room, the Army showed up and built Quonset huts. The Marines showed up and lived in tents (even though it was winter). So maybe they do want it rough.

(The Navy, of course, showed up and said "screw this, we'll just sleep on our ships.")

The way I heard it:
When you tell the Services "Secure that building"....
The Marine Corps surrounds it and lays down a withering field of fire
The Army puts up a fence and posts a guard
The Navy turns off the lights and locks the door
The Air Force takes out a three year lease with an option to buy
2014-04-10 08:56:13 PM  
1 vote:
That outta do wonders for recruiting and retention.
2014-04-10 08:38:54 PM  
1 vote:

hi13760: mjohnson71: So what does the Sgt Major of the Marine Corps get paid a year?

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What's missing from that chart (for E-4 and below at least) is how much is deducted from your paycheck for the privilege of living in a barracks, sharing a bathroom with 4 other dudes and the cost of your meal card - which you need to flash to eat at the chow hall.  I got out as an E-4 and the biggest deposit I ever received was ~$430 plus imminent danger pay.  We didn't pay taxes on that money either.  We got these insulting "pay summaries" around tax time - if you added your benefits to what we pay you, you would've made 28,000K per year.  The last one I got I added up all my deposits and it came out to around 12K.  I raked in 16K of benefits living in a place where I had to share a bathroom with 3 other guys and eat processed, often under/over cooked crap everyday.  I did have an off-base GF, which was good and bad as I tried to contribute to our little apartment life, but still... A lot of marines I served with made the car note with the first paycheck, and insurance/drinking benders with the 2nd.

They were shocked - SHOCKED - when I turned down 10K bonus (paid over 2 years), a promotion to E-5 (even though I had been subjected to NJP about 18 months earlier), and choice of duty station (I wanted to go to Hawaii) to re-enlist. NOBODY from my MOS EVER re-enlisted.  2147, each day worse than the previous... You wouldn't think a job as basic as "diesel mechanic" would suck so hard, but you'd be wrong.  Never put regular infantry commanders in charge of mechanized units, I still don't know why the Marine Corps does this.

I was meritoriously promoted to E-3, was written up for 2 Meritorious Masts, was awarded TWO NAMs, but never got my good cookie. Life was good, unless you were naval SP and I kicked your ass.
2014-04-10 08:21:33 PM  
1 vote:

100 Watt Walrus: FTFA: As I talk to thousands of audiences, they want to know into whose neck do we put a boot next.

Aside from the hyperbole of "thousands of audiences" and the gawdawful grammar, this guys is full of it. And if while I'm all for an armed forces ready to do its duty, being gung-ho to put your boot on someone's neck is very much the wrong way to view the world. That makes you a barbarian, not a soldier.

boots on necks is a huge improvement over the "collect their ears" of yesteryear

/everybody speaks 5.56
2014-04-10 08:12:25 PM  
1 vote:

Jument: Someone once said, "when you pay peanuts, you get monkeys".

The converse of this would be:

If you have monkeys working for you, you should pay peanuts.
2014-04-10 07:49:41 PM  
1 vote:
I am surprised to hear that level of bullshiat from an NCO. Typically that degree of nonsense requires a comissioned officer.
2014-04-10 07:10:24 PM  
1 vote:
Back in 'Nam, when I was in the Core, we paid to go fight the gooks. I served in Iran, Afganistan and in Gernada and I paid for my airline ticket over to the 'big show' every time. I killed probably a few thousand towel heads and fragged a few hundered ginks. Damn, I never even cashed a paycheck. Marines don't want no pay. They just want a fight, kill, explode things and get Osama Bin Loudin.... and we will one day. Sempera figh! My brothers know what I am talking about. You guys don't know nothing.
2014-04-10 06:34:20 PM  
1 vote:
And this guy's definitely headed for conservative think tank/Fox Newz on-air consultant territory when he's done.
2014-04-10 06:27:58 PM  
1 vote:
Pretty sure you can increase morale by increasing pay and benefits, too.
2014-04-10 06:27:23 PM  
1 vote:

mjohnson71: So what does the Sgt Major of the Marine Corps get paid a year?


he having more than 33 years experience puts him at 6743.34 per/mo.
2014-04-10 06:27:09 PM  
1 vote:

nipner: Love hearing this from some high ranking lifer who's already set with a good salary, lifetime pension, healthcare, etc...  He got his, now close the gates on everyone else.

"I got mine, fark you". He sounds Republican.
2014-04-10 06:14:12 PM  
1 vote:
Someone once said, "when you pay peanuts, you get monkeys".
2014-04-10 06:12:31 PM  
1 vote:
2014-04-10 05:53:41 PM  
1 vote:
"I mean, look at those Marines, standing proudly in that line to apply for food stamps!  Another example of discipline, like when they stood in line to do the monkey bars before and after lunch!"
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