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ZAZ [TotalFark]
2014-04-06 08:38:15 AM  
3 votes:
He administered five stings a day, always between 9 and 10am, and always starting and ending with "test stings" on his forearm to calibrate the ratings.

This is how I know he's a good scientist. You can become sensitived to venom or desensitized to pain.
2014-04-06 12:55:14 PM  
2 votes:

Literally Addicted: Okay. So, there are no outliers? That the findings are applicable in 100% of all real cases?

Of course not.  It's a statistical generalization.

Literally Addicted: I'm not a fan of generalizations.

Well, I'm sorry, but that's how science works.

Literally Addicted: My point is that my "10" is likely different than someone else's, but I doubt it's just because I'm female.

Yes, there is significant variation in pain tolerance from person to person outside of the differences due to sex.  You may in fact have a very high pain tolerance. You may have the highest pain tolerance in the world, for all we know.  However, having a baby doesn't support this argument in the least.  Also, it's complete bullshiat to suggest that nobody can engage in conversation on the topic without having had that experience.

Literally Addicted: This is why I find the studies argumentative.

I didn't read all of the studies that meow posted, but it's pretty well-accepted scientifically.  You can't correct for systematic factors like adherence to social roles or male ego, but the fact is, for whatever reason, men tolerate more pain than women in general.  They also exhibit a higher pain tolerance on average physiologically.

Some women wear the trial of childbirth like a badge of courage. I completely understand that.  I feel something similar about the 5 1/2 hours straight I once spent with a guy dragging a tattoo needle over my ribcage.  But the folk wisdom about women being "stronger" than men because of their higher pain tolerance is a myth.  Your body created a life.   That's awesome, and it's something men cannot do. You're a tough cookie for bearing the pain. Go you.  But men are still tougher, and that's fine.
2014-04-06 12:34:15 PM  
2 votes:
Oh Jesus of the Christians are you the serious person right now or just doing the trolling because I have the trouble believing someone could have this much stupidity.

Literally Addicted: Okay. So, there are no outliers? That the findings are applicable in 100% of all real cases?

Of course there are the outliers. Dear lord.

I'm not a fan of generalizations.

All medical science and social science and engineering and physics and every other of the fields is based on the generalizations. That is how science does the working. Dear lord.

My point is that my "10" is likely different than someone else's, but I doubt it's just because I'm female.

They did not just utilize the factors of subjective measurement in these studies. In the factual information I directly linked to you the studies of the non-subjective measures.

Differences in physiology, psychology, age and culture are all factors in how an individual tolerates pain.

This does not dispute the findings in the any way or the shaping or the formation. The gender differences still have existence. You are making the argument of cause as sex versus gender versus something else of this. That does not change the differences having the existence.

This is why I find the studies argumentative.

But the anecdote is okay? Listen you are suffering from the back firing effect. That is what happens when you learn that the view of you about something is wrong so you do all that can be done by you to convince yourself that you were indeed the correct person. You are not. I know that it has the sucking. Sometimes the studies conducted by me turn out not the way I have done the hypothesizing. That is the disappointing thing but I make the acknowledgement that the science is much more important than the anecdote. You are not having the persecution. You were wrong. Get over this.
2014-04-06 12:06:55 PM  
2 votes:

Benjimin_Dover: His forearm would become desensisitized over time.

Actually, it's the opposite. Experiencing frequent or continuous pain makes it hurt more over time, not less.

Literally Addicted: All I said is that you should experience the same pain I have before commenting on my ability to tolerate it better than you, based on sex.

He didn't.  He said that women have a lower pain tolerance than men when compared scientifically. And he's correct, (even if his schtick is rather annoying.) You're the one who got all snarky and butthurt about someone challenging your womanhood, or the "validity of your emotional experience", or whatever. Put your e-peen away, and stop challenging men to have babies when you know we can't.
2014-04-06 10:23:58 AM  
2 votes:

No, really, I mean the asshole.
2014-04-06 11:23:35 AM  
1 vote:
If I was his professor, there's no way I would be able to stop myself from giving him B on this.
2014-04-06 10:34:15 AM  
1 vote:
Not a bee sting, but when I was seven, I somehow got a mosquito bite directly on the head of my penis.
I wasn't in the habit of running around in the nude. To this day I don't know how it happened.
2014-04-06 10:32:41 AM  
1 vote:
Watching too much Mythbusters, I guess.

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2014-04-06 10:25:20 AM  
1 vote:
Scrotum stings not being terrible isn't surprising at all, that skin isn't very sensitive, comparatively speaking.

Unless it gets caught in a zipper.
2014-04-06 10:23:48 AM  
1 vote:
We need the following up study with the females. Females do not have as strong the pain tolerance as the males but also have the differences in the anatomy.
2014-04-06 10:22:36 AM  
1 vote:
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XKCD has this covered.
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