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2014-03-31 09:53:38 AM  
4 votes:
Japan had argued it has complied with the moratorium despite its 2,000-year tradition of whale hunting, leaving coastal communities in "anguish" because they can no longer practise their ancestral traditions.

Somehow I don't think the 2,000 year old tradition for those coastal communities involved hunting off the coast of Antarctica.

Sad that there is no 'anguish' over the apparent total lack of whales in what I assume is their traditional hunting grounds closer to home.
2014-03-31 10:39:39 AM  
2 votes:

gfid: Is the whale meat really not wanted? I'm not up on this shiat. It seems to me that someone wants the whale. Otherwise it's just Japan and that freaky Sea Shepherd dude having a dick-waving contest.

The whale meat sits in storage until it spoils and is thrown out. Only a very small percentage is eaten by humans. Some makes its way into dog food since the subsidized cost is next to nothing. It's all about pride and tradition. Which I'm fine with... as soon as they give up Playstations, modern medicine, and Pokemon. If they want to play Imperial Japan make-believe, they need to go all the way. Oh, and use wooden ships without engines.
2014-03-31 10:34:40 AM  
2 votes:
But it impedes their ancestral traditions to stop them from whaling.

/My ancestral traditions (one generation, anyway) include machine gunning the Japs. You can continue yours if I can continue mine.
2014-03-31 01:43:51 PM  
1 vote:

gfid: PETA and teh Sea Shepherds can suck my dick - and they probably would if given the chance.

I wasn't aware that middle schoolers were still using homosexuality is a pejorative.
2014-03-31 01:11:15 PM  
1 vote:
/CSB Time!
  I used to work in Antarctica on board the icebreakers that are leased out to the US Antarctic Program. We were in the Ross Sea one trip (circa 2006/7?) and I was randomly wandering around the ship during my "working" hours, which I think was midnight to noon that particular trip. Well, I happened to be up on the bridge (around 2 or 3 AM) when the mate on watch looks on the radar and says, "there's something out there." We start looking out the windows and sure enough, there's a ship a goodly bit out there, but it's completely blacked out and not transmitting anything on AIS (illegal on a vessel that size) nor responding to hails on any radio freqs. The mate decides it's best to steer a bit clear of this unknown vessel and we're probably about 3-5 miles away when suddenly all the lights come up and this ship starts making headway directly towards us. Mind you, our ship is a BRIGHT creme and orange colored US flagged research vessel that does not have any outward appearance of a whaling ship. They close to within a half mile and finally slow down and talk to us on the radio. Turns out these morons are no other than the specials at sea shepard and thought we were a whaling ship, so they were coming to attack us. When we finally got it clear to them that we were not whalers, they came at us head on and passed on the right side (a big no no for seagoing vessels) then had the audacity to ask us if we had seen any of the whaling vessels and then asked for our sat phone numbers so they could call us and have us report on any Japanese whaling vessel activity. We refused to give them any info. A short while later (same trip for me) is when they had the incident where they rammed one of the Japanese ships.

End CSB.
2014-03-31 11:19:00 AM  
1 vote:
Makes me think of the bit with the Kraken in Good Omens:
"The Kappamaki, a whaling research ship, was currently researching the question: How many whales can you catch in one week? "

/In my original American edition there's a (possibly intentional) typo that changes "catch" to "watch"
//Very confusing at first
2014-03-31 10:26:42 AM  
1 vote:

gfid: Japan's whaling "research" is actually sustainable.

No, it isn't, not even remotely.

This shouldn't surprise you, since they've managed to kill every fish within 200 miles of their main chain's coastlines in the course of "sustainable" fishing.
2014-03-31 10:14:10 AM  
1 vote:

Gentoolive: Update: international court now holds cows sacred. You've had your last burger fatty.

Except there's plenty of cows in the world and they are farmed. There's only a limited number of whales, which are pretty damn endangered
2014-03-31 09:52:59 AM  
1 vote:

kroonermanblack: scottydoesntknow: So what's to stop Japan from just saying they're now whaling for commercial porpoises? Norway and Iceland seem to do that without any consequence.

Pulling this firmly out of my ass, I guess that Iceland and Norway whale for different whales and keep their numbers down at sustainable levels according to demand, while Japan basically loathes the whale products and only does it because they hate everyone else more.

I believe they have also been told to stop doing it repeatedly and have found stupid loopholes each time (like scientific study).

It's the same type of whale. The major legal difference is that Japan agreed to stop whaling except for scientific purposes and Norway didn't.

This decision decision means Japan is not allowed to continue killing whales for as long as it is part of the agreement not to kill whales, but it's only part of that agreement as long as it wants to be.
2014-03-31 09:25:27 AM  
1 vote:
Whale is pretty good, but it's not that popular here.  It'd probably die out on it's own if there weren't so many people constantly trying to turn it into a nationalist dick-waving contest.  Sea Shepherd's antics will probably keep demand up for another 50 years, though.
2014-03-31 09:00:12 AM  
1 vote:
thanks, whalebama
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