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(Telegraph)   UK government to criminalise classic British parenting   ( telegraph.co.uk) divider line
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2014-03-31 09:34:19 AM  
3 votes:
I know their hearts are in the right place, but man this sounds like it would be a nightmare to actually police and enforce.
2014-03-31 09:27:07 AM  
3 votes:

ZAZ: "Pick up your toys."

"You can't tell me what to do. I know my rights."

The fact they have toys at all refutes the claim.

Fark is going to get on its high horse, but emotional neglect can stunt growth or even kill children, and we've known this for quite some time.
2014-03-31 09:48:22 AM  
2 votes:

Teiritzamna: plcow: My thought is that they will, except for the most extreme cases, use this to tack on to sentencing as an adder when another more serious crime was inflicted. i.e. when the kid is physically abused, now they can add jail time by charging under this law as well.

Yeah, i'm figuring its one of those catch-as-catch-can laws that ends up just being used as a sentencing modification, or a fall back, lesser included charge.  Which makes some sense in the US, but from what i heard in the UK they dont really do plea bargaining, so it will have less practical effect.

I think it's so they have something to charge shiatty parents with when they don't have physical things like beatings or sexual assault.  Abuse doesn't have to be physical for it to have a real and very negative effect.

My father is a very emotionally abusive person, but I never really felt like I could seek outside help about it.  What was I supposed to say, "My dad is mean to me"?  I just thought that's how parents were--they shouted at you over nothing and denigrated you all the time.  Took me a long time to get over it, and in some ways, I'm still working through all the little traps left in my brain.

I don't really know what the laws in the US look like for this kind of thing.  I grew up in GA, so suffice it to say there wasn't much in the way of good social services.  One of his angry ex-girlfriends called CPS as a form of revenge once, and they came out to the house, and since he's also a crazy hoarder I thought that he was going to get in trouble for sure, but nothing ever happened.
2014-03-31 12:27:12 PM  
1 vote:

GilRuiz1: Alright, I'll admit my ignorance; WTF is "children of love"?  It's undoubtedly a Brit euphemism or idiom for something or another, but the Googles do not help.

"starving children of love" means not giving your children love.
2014-03-31 10:21:21 AM  
1 vote:

Jim_Callahan: but in reality there are some pretty strict rules about establishing patterns and how much of what it takes to cross the line.

You've never dealt with the family court system, have you?
2014-03-31 10:12:33 AM  
1 vote:

The Name: Still creeps me the hell out just thinking about it.

"This Be The Verse" by Philip Larkin

They f*ck you up, your mum and dad.
    They may not mean to, but they do.
They fill you with the faults they had
    And add some extra, just for you.

But they were f*cked up in their turn
    By fools in old-style hats and coats,
Who half the time were soppy-stern
    And half at one another's throats.

Man hands on misery to man.
    It deepens like a coastal shelf.
Get out as early as you can,
    And don't have any kids yourself.
2014-03-31 09:40:18 AM  
1 vote:
So, does sending your spawn off to some boarding school in the wilds of Cumbria the day they turn 4 count?  Because, if so, an entire swath of the upper class are going to be queuing up to spend a decade in Newgate...
2014-03-31 09:39:58 AM  
1 vote:

Teiritzamna: I know their hearts are in the right place, but man this sounds like it would be a nightmare to actually police and enforce.

Oh, it will be easy to police and enforce.  It's just that it will be done selectively, against poor people.
2014-03-31 09:38:35 AM  
1 vote:
Irish parents not gonna be happy about this. Emotional deprivation is a national standard.
2014-03-31 09:34:23 AM  
1 vote:
Is it really abuse to withhold British food from a child?
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