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(NBC Philadelphia)   Greyhound driver abandons passengers for 8 hours at snowy Delaware reststop while he has breakfast, which he probably didn't need anyway   (nbcphiladelphia.com) divider line
    More: Strange, greyhound, Delaware, a.m. Monday, deserts, Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration, passengers  
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2014-03-19 5:40:45 PM  
That's a damn long breakfast.
 
2014-03-19 6:28:38 PM  
They probably had a broad selection of restaurants, maybe a Roy Rogers and a Cinnabon, plus restrooms.
What more could they want?
 
2014-03-19 6:28:46 PM  
8 hours for breakfast?

I didn't even know they had Hardee's in Delaware.
 
2014-03-19 6:32:42 PM  
Sometimes it's tough to get the little woman off her ass to cook it.
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2014-03-19 6:36:04 PM  
Worry about meeting working hour quotas set for safety leading to disaster has done worse things...

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And plenty of sleeping bus drivers in there also. I know it's just a bus, but carrying a backup makes more sense than trying to arrange for replacements to meet away from bus stations.
 
2014-03-19 6:39:11 PM  
Vice President Biden takes the train. Perhaps you should too.
 
2014-03-19 6:40:09 PM  
You could lose your head riding the Greyhound.
 
2014-03-19 6:40:48 PM  

wildcardjack: Worry about meeting working hour quotas set for safety leading to disaster has done worse things...

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And plenty of sleeping bus drivers in there also. I know it's just a bus, but carrying a backup makes more sense than trying to arrange for replacements to meet away from bus stations.


I have no idea wtf you are talking about. This thread is about an epic breakfast
 
2014-03-19 6:42:56 PM  
According to a spokesman from the Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration in the Department of Transportation, federal regulations prohibit bus drivers from being on duty for more than 15 hours per day. In addition, bus drivers can only be behind the wheel of a bus for a total of 10 hours, after which they are required to take a mandatory eight-hour break before driving again.

So bad weather or not, the driver was not allowed to drive more than 10 hours straight.
This was about Greyhound not planning ahead and providing a replacement driver.
 
2014-03-19 6:49:05 PM  
I like to fly so it's okay if my driver has breakfast, as long as it isn't the fish.
 
2014-03-19 6:53:32 PM  
They should have all joined together and sang 99 thousand bottles of beer on the wall.
 
2014-03-19 6:56:14 PM  

AliceBToklasLives: You could lose your head riding the Greyhound.


Yes, but only in Canada a bus ride can be that exciting.
 
2014-03-19 6:57:42 PM  
Shanna, they bought their cheap Greyhound tickets, they knew what they were getting into. I say, let 'em freeze.
 
2014-03-19 6:58:49 PM  

NutWrench: According to a spokesman from the Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration in the Department of Transportation, federal regulations prohibit bus drivers from being on duty for more than 15 hours per day. In addition, bus drivers can only be behind the wheel of a bus for a total of 10 hours, after which they are required to take a mandatory eight-hour break before driving again.

So bad weather or not, the driver was not allowed to drive more than 10 hours straight.
This was about Greyhound not planning ahead and providing a replacement driver.


I've worked commercial driving before, and I can tell you that since bus drivers fall under the same rules as I did, he could have received a massive fine or even gotten his license suspended for what the DOT would consider a violation of the HOS (Hours of Service) rules/laws. It isn't just the driving hours that he ran out of, he can't be "on duty" for more than a certain time period. And on duty is defined as anything related to the operation of the vehicle or business (like unloading luggage or cargo, etc), so even if he had just been sitting on the bus yakking with the passengers, he would be considered on duty.

Now, he could have just put himself off duty in his logbook and stayed with the passengers to make sure they stayed safe until the replacement driver showed up. They would have still been upset, but they would have appreciated him not just abandoning them in the event an emergency happened while they waited. And if say a State Trooper had come along and audited his logs, I would hope the cop would understand that the driver didn't want to just leave people unattended and not cause problems for him, since that driver is held responsible for anything that happens to that vehicle for example.
 
2014-03-19 7:01:41 PM  

chitownmike: I have no idea wtf you are talking about. This thread is about an epic breakfast


FOOD THREAD!!

/Gets free-range popcorn ready
 
2014-03-19 7:03:25 PM  
Dude sure eats slowly.
 
2014-03-19 7:06:05 PM  
Sounds like the bus driver was staging his own mini protest against management. They wanted him to work over the limit and he justly showed them what kind of assholes they were. They can deal with the PR mess they caused.
 
2014-03-19 7:08:53 PM  
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Was the drivesr name Ron Swanson?
 
2014-03-19 7:12:02 PM  
The proprietor at the snowy rest stop didn't report anything unusual.
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2014-03-19 7:13:31 PM  
If he had kept driving he would have likely been fired. Probably will anyway.
 
2014-03-19 7:15:01 PM  
Yu here eight hour! YU GO NOW!
 
2014-03-19 7:15:06 PM  

Radak: I like to fly so it's okay if my driver has breakfast, as long as it isn't the fish.


He had the lasagna.
 
2014-03-19 7:21:26 PM  
"Bus driver required by federal law to abandon passengers, poor planning and bad weather cause abandonment to last 5 hours"
 
2014-03-19 7:22:44 PM  

NutWrench: According to a spokesman from the Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration in the Department of Transportation, federal regulations prohibit bus drivers from being on duty for more than 15 hours per day. In addition, bus drivers can only be behind the wheel of a bus for a total of 10 hours, after which they are required to take a mandatory eight-hour break before driving again.

So bad weather or not, the driver was not allowed to drive more than 10 hours straight.
This was about Greyhound not planning ahead and providing a replacement driver.


I may be wrong, but I believe that the article mentioned that the trip took much longer than planned, because of the weather, so the driver exceeded his time slot. It happens on airlines, so why not Greyhound.
 
2014-03-19 7:29:33 PM  
Still a dog of a way to travel.
 
2014-03-19 7:30:35 PM  
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Breakfast makes you fat...ter
 
2014-03-19 7:30:37 PM  

Crass and Jaded Mother Farker: 8 hours for breakfast?

I didn't even know they had Hardee's in Delaware.


You must be thinking Steak N Shake

/slowest service ever
 
2014-03-19 7:34:18 PM  

wildcardjack: And plenty of sleeping bus drivers in there also. I know it's just a bus, but carrying a backup makes more sense than trying to arrange for replacements to meet away from bus stations.


What the hell do you want for a 20 dollar ticket? Emergency Greyhound hotels every 30 miles on the highway? A chase bus following them n case something happens? Greyhound to put them on a plane or train instead?

If you are buying a ticket on greyhound, or any interstate bus line for that matter, your primary concern is price. You get what you pay for.
 
2014-03-19 7:35:21 PM  
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2014-03-19 7:36:05 PM  
This happens like every day all over the country.
 
2014-03-19 7:37:01 PM  
Have I told my Amtrak horror story where they left a station knowing their engineers didn't have enough hours left to make it to the next station?  Did they stay at the station where passengers could attempt to find alternate transportation or at least get a good meal while they waited for a new crew?  Nope.  Stopped the train in the middle of farking nowhere.
 
2014-03-19 7:39:11 PM  
Federal rules for bus drivers and truckers are not negotiable. If the driver was caught breaking them he could have his license yanked and fined.
 
2014-03-19 7:40:21 PM  
Here's what a real Greyhound Bus looks like.  I'd buy it if I won the lottery. Worth checking out:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zFRJYzHlnI
 
2014-03-19 7:43:03 PM  
Did he have a Boston Pancake?
 
2014-03-19 7:51:47 PM  
Here's a link to greyhound song!:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51R7bxQNAJg#t=29
 
2014-03-19 8:07:52 PM  

NutWrench: According to a spokesman from the Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration in the Department of Transportation, federal regulations prohibit bus drivers from being on duty for more than 15 hours per day. In addition, bus drivers can only be behind the wheel of a bus for a total of 10 hours, after which they are required to take a mandatory eight-hour break before driving again.

So bad weather or not, the driver was not allowed to drive more than 10 hours straight.
This was about Greyhound not planning ahead and providing a replacement driver.


Stop reporting facts.  Jeez, Man!
 
2014-03-19 8:18:40 PM  
"He abandoned us. He left," the passenger said. "The weather reports are everywhere. You see that this could happen, have people set up and spaced out so that in case this does happen, people can still do what they need to do."

Passengers say the driver left the bus idling and showed them the button to open and close the bus' door before he left.


/Oh cry me a farking river. You had heat, shelter, and you could get off the bus and go to get food in the diner anytime. The guy was on the last hour of his shift, and wasn't allowed to drive any further. What do you want him to do? Spoon you and massage your balls? Man up a little biatch.
 
2014-03-19 8:19:16 PM  
MelGoesOnTour Here's what a real Greyhound Bus looks like.  I'd buy it if I won the lottery. Worth checking out:

Greyhound had a wing @ their L.A. Depot that's stocked with nothing but completely restored vintage buses covering every one of their eras, they'd loan 'em out to any period movie or tv show-not even as cool as the restored GM Futurliner parked outside Casa de Cadillac, which is where the last photo of James Dean was taken filing up @ the Casa de Gas  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4KQKlg4mWc0
 
2014-03-19 8:30:01 PM  
Greyhound's new livery is classy.
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/Passed one on the 401 today.
 
2014-03-19 9:38:40 PM  
15/10 is the old pre 2004 rules 14/11 is the modern.
 
2014-03-19 10:30:20 PM  
Greyhound thread?
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Yeah we don't have kids
 
2014-03-19 11:35:20 PM  
Breakfast, and to add a little armor plating.
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2014-03-20 12:39:01 AM  

Oldiron_79: 15/10 is the old pre 2004 rules 14/11 is the modern.



Yes, but greyhound driving rules are set by the union...which set them up under the old standard. This driver isn't going to be fired. If they (management) tries, the union will have a field day, as the driver did the only safe thing possible: leave them in a safe environment. When the driver left, he had plenty of time for his HOS (hours of service) but due to snow and traffic, quickly ran into an issue. The exact same thing happened to me going from tucumcari nm  to amarillo tx.. What should have taken just under 2 hours became a 7 hour wait on the highway, running me close to being in violation of HOS. I didn't leave my passengers, though, as I was finally able to complete the trip at 9.75 hours. If I had gone to ten, I would have left them just like he did.
 
2014-03-20 2:02:57 AM  

HotIgneous Intruder: Roy Rogers

Damn, I kinda miss Roy's sometimes. The only one I know of that's not in a turnpike service plaza is in Hagerstown, MD. And as I now live 2500 miles away, well, they aren't that good.
 
2014-03-20 2:46:56 AM  
At least they'll all get some free bus tickets out of this.
 
2014-03-20 10:50:55 AM  

rikkards: Greyhound thread?
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Yeah we don't have kids


They are the BEST dogs.  Our girl will be 10 in August.
 
2014-03-20 12:01:45 PM  

Day_Old_Dutchie: Greyhound's new livery is classy.
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/Passed one on the 401 today.


I've ridden quite a few Greyhounds. The newer fleet with leather seats, AC power outlets, and wi-fi are pretty comfortable.

Plus you meet *all kinds*of characters. I was willing to "inconvenience" myself for the better legroom and to avoid the airline security theater that pisses me off.  I just wasn't in a huge hurry because I had was laid-off and had nothing better to do.

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2014-03-20 1:00:40 PM  
ImpendingCynic Damn, I kinda miss Roy's sometimes. The only one I know of that's not in a turnpike service plaza is in Hagerstown, MD. And as I now live 2500 miles away, well, they aren't  that good.

Never realized Maryland could be so flat & boring. No wonder Pearl S. Buck went to China.  Roy's not that great either
 
2014-03-20 2:42:34 PM  

FlyingJ: Never realized Maryland could be so flat & boring.


No!  I'll not stand for that!

Allegany and Garrett counties are rugged & boring.
 
2014-03-20 9:17:21 PM  
From the article comments section:

"Momo Enriquez · Works at The George Washington University

I was a passenger in that bus. No he didn't leave us, He went inside the food court to call greyhound and ask for another driver because, by law, He reached his maximum driving hours per shift. Also, he did tell us that the visibility was bad due to the weather condition.... Most of us understood the situation and just sat back and wait for another driver"
 
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