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(CBS Detroit)   Federal judge permits florists delivery with drones. Because nothing says "love" more than having a bouquet dropped at your door by an unmanned aerial vehicle   (detroit.cbslocal.com) divider line
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2014-03-13 9:20:07 AM  
I don't see how this is physically possible in urban or suburban areas. Are these drones going to be able to navigate through telephone lines, bridges, traffic, etc?
 
2014-03-13 9:21:12 AM  
I guess it depends on who loves you, subs.  If my hubby had flowers delivered by a UAV, it would be all kinds of awesome.  Extra points if it then obliterates them with a missile post-delivery.  Why yes, I'm a bit odd at times.
 
2014-03-13 10:05:57 AM  
Nothing says love like having a complete stranger deliver flowers.
 
2014-03-13 10:09:39 AM  
Nothing says, "I love you" like a Hellfire missile in the head.
 
2014-03-13 10:10:41 AM  
/Actually, a drone is a target vehicle.
//These are UAVs, unmanned aerial vehicles, and yes, they will chop you to pieces if they run into you.
 
2014-03-13 10:11:29 AM  
'cause we can easily determine what that drone is carrying..................................

will all the terrorists go into the florist business?  LOL


Get back to me when I can find myself a drone with EMP capability and a frikin' laser.
 
2014-03-13 10:20:35 AM  
So after defending my airspace with a shotgun I'll be showered with rose petals?  Sweet!
 
2014-03-13 10:24:07 AM  
First thing that came to me:

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2014-03-13 10:28:39 AM  
FTFA: "But last week, federal administrative law judge Patrick Geraghty ruled that if he accepted the FAA's argument for regulating drones, "a flight in the air of a paper airplane or a toy balsa wood glider could subject the operator" to FAA penalties. The ruling applies to flights below 400 feet."

Yeah, FAA...how about no. Does no work for you?

Just do what they did 35 years with ultralight "aerial vehicles"....max speed 55 KIAS, clear of clouds and controlled airspace, max empty weight 254 lbs and you're on you own. Don't kill yourself, because as far as we're concerned you don't exist.

For UAS's...max weight 55 lbs (a "rule" in place for like forever), max altitude 400', 3 miles from airports. Done.
 
2014-03-13 10:36:49 AM  
 
2014-03-13 10:37:13 AM  
"Drone."

DRINK!!
 
2014-03-13 10:48:44 AM  

Stone Meadow: For UAS's...max weight 55 lbs (a "rule" in place for like forever), max altitude 400', 3 miles from airports. Done.


The dingo drone stole my baby excuse is now in play.
 
2014-03-13 10:49:05 AM  
Every breath you take
Every move you make
Every bond you break
Every step you take
I'll be watching you.

Every single day
Every word you say
Every game you play
Every night you stay
I'll be watching you.
 
2014-03-13 10:51:58 AM  
Open the door and get a mouthful of whirring rotors. Woot!
 
2014-03-13 10:55:37 AM  

Strik3r: 'cause we can easily determine what that drone is carrying..................................

will all the terrorists go into the florist business?  LOL


Get back to me when I can find myself a drone with EMP capability and a frikin' laser.


Power requirements for EMP are where it falls apart. The laser is easy enough, though. The hard part is coding the "aim for the eyes" program and getting the kinect camera to play nice with the rest of it.

It would be an evil little bastard for 8-10 minutes. Then like all UAS', it needs someone to change the battery... which is where my doubts about delivery drones come into play.

By the time you build (or buy) for the range, carrying capacity and reliability you're easily over the cost of just getting someone to drive package to the destination. It sounds like a neat idea, but it is not at all practical.

I can spend a couple thousand dollars building a quadcopter that has a carrying capacity of maybe a kilo, and even then it's only going to fly 30-40mph for ten minutes or so (optimistically speaking). Want a longer flight? More battery. Oh, but now you need more lift... so you need bigger (or more) motors, which need more power, i.e. more battery. Those of us that build and fly these things constantly fight diminishing returns. I've seen the difference between flight-worthy and near-uncontrollable come down to a handful of grams. Not to mention center-of-gravity issues that are going to arise with every payload's weight and distribution being different... and a whole host of other considerations that will affect the flight characteristics and capabilities of the rotorcraft.

TL;DR- Anybody claiming to be able to SAFELY AND RELIABLY deliver a payload further down the road than they can see is full of it.
 
2014-03-13 10:59:21 AM  
Nothing say love like giving someone some dying plants.
 
2014-03-13 10:59:48 AM  
My porch-based ack-ack guns gonna be cool?
 
2014-03-13 11:00:06 AM  
To my beloved:

Roses are Red,
Violets are blue,
Enjoy these flowers,
I am actively targeting you.
 
2014-03-13 11:01:16 AM  

Silly_Sot: Every breath you take
Every move you make
Every bond you break
Every step you take
I'll be watching you.

Every single day
Every word you say
Every game you play
Every night you stay
I'll be watching you.


Every leaf you rake
Every dog you wake
Every herring you bake
I'll be watching you
 
2014-03-13 11:20:22 AM  
Redicu-Judge goes up against FAA.

Reassigned to Alaska next month.

News at 11.
 
2014-03-13 11:24:46 AM  
Says who subby?

My wife likes battery operated things that bring her stuff that she wants.
 
2014-03-13 11:51:22 AM  

BitwiseShift: Stone Meadow: For UAS's...max weight 55 lbs (a "rule" in place for like forever), max altitude 400', 3 miles from airports. Done.

The dingo drone stole my baby excuse is now in play.


On it...

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2014-03-13 11:53:46 AM  

Lets talk frankly about internal cleanliness: TL;DR- Anybody claiming to be able to SAFELY AND RELIABLY deliver a payload further down the road than they can see is full of it.


True enough. Retail delivery by drone is nothing more than a PR stunt. OTOH, environmental monitoring, mining and other physical survey work and agriculture are now wide open, at least temporarily. The ag insurance industry alone is a multi-billion dollar market.
 
2014-03-13 12:08:56 PM  

whatsupchuck: So after defending my airspace with a shotgun I'll be showered with rose petals?  Sweet!


Wait til Amazon starts using them for deliveries - Skeet shooting with prizes!

/totally stole that from somewhere
 
2014-03-13 12:11:12 PM  
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The new divorce bouquet.
 
2014-03-13 12:14:25 PM  
Score one for the Predators.


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2014-03-13 12:17:43 PM  

vernonFL: I don't see how this is physically possible in urban or suburban areas. Are these drones going to be able to navigate through telephone lines, bridges, traffic, etc?


The topography in Pgh and many other cities will also prohibit their use.

Cute gimmick for some limited areas tho, I guess.
 
2014-03-13 12:29:35 PM  
Obama haz drōnz
 
2014-03-13 12:32:11 PM  
Federal judge permits florists delivery with dronesanything that makes a dollar and a cent in America.  cause that is the only criteria that matters.
 
2014-03-13 12:33:26 PM  
Dronz: just another tool in the Owner's arsenal.  just wait until you get arrested by one.  you'll love that.
 
2014-03-13 12:49:07 PM  
Oooh...I'll order the Cupid drone.  That sounds romantic!
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2014-03-13 12:54:11 PM  
This will end well.
 
2014-03-13 1:15:15 PM  
Can you also deliver this flaming paper bag?
 
2014-03-13 1:50:38 PM  
They also have "brick and mortar" flower shops. I have been trying for some time to deliver flowers with a mortar, with limited success....
 
2014-03-13 1:57:57 PM  
It's called RC. Remote Control and its been around for ages. JC I hate how everyone gives something a new name and calls innovating. CNN had a full blown article on the NEW emerging technology DRONES.
 
2014-03-13 2:02:45 PM  

bobrktb: It's called RC. Remote Control and its been around for ages. JC I hate how everyone gives something a new name and calls innovating. CNN had a full blown article on the NEW emerging technology DRONES.


While I believe it hasn't been officially termed, you're correct that radio controlled has been around for a long time. But a drone is much more than just RC.

What is new is that non-military, inexpensive micro-aircraft can now operate out of direct visual range with telepresence and/or autonomously through preprogrammed behaviors, flight paths and even landing via GPS and built in sensors. That's what I'd term a "drone."
 
2014-03-13 2:18:39 PM  

stevetherobot: Nothing says love like having a complete stranger deliver flowers.


Long time back my sis was a witness in an assault case.  Not mobster stuff but still an unnerving setup for what happened.  Someone pulls up at twilight one day outside her townhouse, a sour, chubby kinda dude dressed in a track suit of all things, in a beater wagon, and gets out and walks back to the trunk/hatch.  She panicked a little before seeing him pull out a gift basket with balloons.  Apparently he was very pleasant at the door and had kinda a high pitched voice to top off the ironic twist.

bobrktb: It's called RC. Remote Control and its been around for ages. JC I hate how everyone gives something a new name and calls innovating. CNN had a full blown article on the NEW emerging technology DRONES.


I gave up a while ago telling the 3d printing wankers here that things like stereolith have been around for decades.

The real dumb thing about drone delivery is the obvious rise in 'drone takedowns' by bored teens and crooks.  This is shiat that only people living in a bubble could think will work.
 
2014-03-13 2:39:28 PM  
You know what would be cooler than having your flowers delivered by UAV? Having them delivered by a UFO.
 
2014-03-13 5:23:31 PM  
Legalized pot + UAV delivery = the new business model.
 
2014-03-13 8:27:41 PM  
Great thread, Boobies for me. Ultralights can "see and avoid" UAV's cannot, do not have that technology. Balloons, hang gliders, ultralights, helicopters and operators of RC aircraft with LOS (line of sight) can all see and avoid. We all operate below 400 feet. It is a requirement for anyone in class G airspace which extends all the way to the ground (except at tower airports).  You bet your "booty" the feds can control/regulate airspace below 400 feet.  Just try flying a helicopter below 400 feet without a license (even on your own land).  Incidentally the state and county regulates land use (where the wheels touch) and feds in the air once you leave ground.

We will have UAV's someday but only in narrow restricted lanes clearly marked on charts, and well regulated. The other airspace users will demand it.

These stories are mostly PR stunts.  A kid earning minimum wage driving a cheap leased car will always be less expensive than an autonomous drone with full proximity sensors and double redundancy on all systems.

Takeaway: NTSB referee judge says law must be written better before you fine them.
 
2014-03-13 8:58:23 PM  
I just don't see this being a feasible replacement for standard delivery methods. Safety concerns aside, you're going to have an operator in some office somewhere flying these things, which can only take one package at a time, verses loading up a van with all your orders and heading out to make deliveries. Seems one at a time is going to take a lot longer.

What the range of these things? How many delivery centers are you going to need to cover a decent sized city?

So are they just going to drop these things at the door? That's a real romantic way to get flowers, open the door and find them after they've been sitting there all day. How is that going to work in an apartment Building? Hospitals make up a large part of a florists business, how they going to do that, fly it in the front door and up the elevator shaft?

I could sit here all day with these issues, I just don't see how this is going to work.
 
2014-03-14 1:24:27 AM  
 haha  if the relationship  goes  bad  send the  flowers  via carrier drone  with, killer bees.
 
2014-03-14 5:16:18 AM  
Finally I'll have a chance to try out my Surface to Air Thank-You card and Rocket Propelled Fruit Basket prototypes...
 
2014-03-14 5:27:10 AM  
Nocrash:  Incidentally the state and county regulates land use (where the wheels touch) and feds in the air once you leave ground

This is why crimes committed while on a pogo stick are a jurisdictional nightmare...
 
2014-03-14 11:05:39 AM  
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Here are your flowers!  Card reads as follows: Please have dinner with me darling, signed Jim.  You have fifteen seconds to comply!
 
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