Fark_Guy_Rob: PunGent: dready zim: Why do people have so much trouble in seeing that the person who got beat by the guard was innocent as they had not been convicted yet?Innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. That *IS* the way you would like your law to work isn`t it?Am I misreading the article? I thought he was convicted of the seven killings, then beaten in prison (not jail.)Doesn't excuse the beating though, just saying.As best as I can tell....http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brown's_Chicken_massacre The murders happened in 1993.He (the killer) was arrested in 2002.He (the killer) was beaten in 2002.In 2003 the guard who beat him was acquitted of criminal charges.In 2004 the killer sued the guard in civil court....but the case was put on hold pending the murder case.In 2007 his partner was found guilty of 7 counts of murder.In 2009 he was found guilty of 7 counts of murder.The civil case was just ended recently.I hope I'm wrong on the dates, because this is disgusting. Arrested in 2002....convicted in 2009. How is that even possible?
PsychoLaurie: Actually, what must happen next is for the families of the 7 victims to file a lawsuit for restitution. Granted, the families won't see anywhere close to the $500K, but it would keep it off of this asshat's books.
Harry Freakstorm: 25k if he wants a view of the Mississippi and a dailywake up rape.
Fark_Guy_Rob: proteus_b: inclemency: Was Mr King the aggressor?Actually, yes. Until he was subdued and then the police became the aggressors. But driving 100 mph in a residential neighborhood and then lunging at police officers is certainly considered aggressive behavior. Doesn't mean they had to beat him half to death.Meh - I've gone through it in detail before....but I wasn't old enough when the events happened to really pay attention. I thought it was racist white cops beat innocent black man. The truth was very, very different. King went on to have a miserable life with continued DUIs, continued police chases, continued drug abuse and violence. The guy had a record at the time, was incredibly intoxicated, speeding through residential areas, resisting arrest and fighting police.It's all be analysed to death, but they have a detailed account of each and every little thing that happened. I forget the exact numbers, but he was hit 64 times and 58 were considered perfectly lawful. The remaining six were deemed excessive. He wasn't laying on the ground motionless while people hit him 64 times, he was actively fighting the police long enough to be hit 58 times....Racial inequality is a real thing, and I'm all for fixing it. But using Rodney King as a shining example of 'the man' keeping people down was disgusting, IMHO. The other black guys in the car with Mr. King who didn't attack the police were arrested without incident. No beatings, no abuse.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rodney_King
Fark_Guy_Rob: It's all be analysed to death, but they have a detailed account of each and every little thing that happened.
bunner: [www.lynchthehangman.com image 300x391]It'd be terrible if he decided to hang himself in his cell before he got paid.
inclemency: I read the headline and saw the picture of the cretin.For my personal sanity I didn't investigate further. May that obviously guilty man burn forever.I'm running so low on empathy for white trash (this guy) that I can't even pretend to care anymore. Let Palin burn with him. Oh, and Limbaugh and definetely Rafael Cruz. (And Chris Christie).
StanTheMan: fusillade762: This is why prison guards should be required to wear cameras when they're on the job. Cops, too.Yep. So we wouldn't get dumb bunny comments like this:Fark It: I agree, it's asinine that a Cook County sheriff's deputy beat an inmate so severely he had to have metal plates put into his head.Do you realize a single punch in the face can cause you to require metal plates? People have been *killed* by one punch.You sound like a liberal who's never been in a fight in his life, let alone worked in law enforcement with scumbags trying to kill you.
Captain James T. Smirk: While I can't condone a prison guard assaulting an inmate without "imminent harm" provocation, I am certainly okay with this guy having his face broken.As for the judgement, I can also understand awarding him a civil suit for the assault, but 500K seems...excessive. Although between legal fees and probable restitution to the families of his victims, I suppose he's not likely to see much of it.I like the idea of a permanent cycle...break his jaw, pay him a hundred grand, award his hundred grand to the victim's families, break his jaw again, award another hundred grand..."Honey, the roofing company are saying that they might go a little over their budget on the garage""Oh, alright, let me put in a call to the prison and have them rough up Degorski a little. What do you think, broken jaw?""They said it looks like the leak is spreading to the roof over the living room, too""Hmm, okay, I guess I'll let them know to take an ear, too."
Farabor: This is why we shouldn't have to have victims/family of victims need to sue for restitution/damages. That should be included in the original punishment....monetary compensation along with whatever else. Don't have the money? No problem, lifelong lien against you until you can pay it back.Boom, no new court cases needed....money never actually sees this guy's account, it's immediately redirected to victim's families. Money he receives working prison jobs? Yeah, about that....
JK47: ...and now he has assets which his victims can sue for and obtain a judgment against.
HoratioGates: JK47: ...and now he has assets which his victims can sue for and obtain a judgment against.Sadly, I suspect the statute of limitations for filing has long since run out, so unless there is a standing judgment, there probably is no recourse.
phyrkrakr: Farabor: This is why we shouldn't have to have victims/family of victims need to sue for restitution/damages. That should be included in the original punishment....monetary compensation along with whatever else. Don't have the money? No problem, lifelong lien against you until you can pay it back.Boom, no new court cases needed....money never actually sees this guy's account, it's immediately redirected to victim's families. Money he receives working prison jobs? Yeah, about that....That's right - we should continue to punish someone for as long as possible for a single crime they committed. No one should ever receive a second chance, a new start, or catch a break. Because every crime should have a life-long punishment, which will never ever go away. This will in no way result in negative economic and social repercussions, lead to the creation of a permanent underclass, or cause discord and rebellion.
TheCableGuy: To those saying "funnel the cash to the victims", usually a cash reward given to the victim of a crime cannot be attached by creditors even if those creditors were also the victim of a crime. Look up "exempt assets".Unfortunately I am well versed in protecting my assets from creditors.
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