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(   Sigma Alpha Epsilon just banned pledging because too many people died in the process. They'll now put new recruits through the "True Gentleman Experience," which sounds like the name of a male strip club   ( divider line
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2014-03-11 12:36:49 AM  
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FDR Jones: Hey, just curious, I was never a pledge, so I was just wondering if you could be a little more specific. What did you do as a pledge that was so rewarding that you couldn't have done if you were made a full member at the time you accepted a bid?

Part of the hazing rituals were to do things you wouldn't normally do.   In many cases, it's to make you more comfortable with yourself because after you do it, you realize that "that wasn't too awful-- that was kinda fun."  One memorable activity was to go for a jog at dusk wearing nothing but your underwear and shoes.  Not streaking, mind you.  This activity was to ease you into the whole experience (This was the second activity we had to do after accepting our bids).  I remember some sorority girls "discovered" us and started to follow in their moped, beeping all the way, making it a mortifying experience at the time.  Now I look back and think it was hilarious.

I know some of you did this-- and more explicit activities-- when you were in school.  But for those of us who needed a little more of a push...

Other activities made you work together.  Those were designed to have you leave the pledging with "bonds formed from mutual experience".  Most of it were just military style workouts in sync with your fellow pledges.  I can't go into much more detail than that, but they worked to a degree.  After pledging, you knew that all alums, active and inactive members have gone through similar experiences, and you have a link to them.  We have an annual Alumni BBQ-- Someone can mention the code word for one of those hazing rituals and you can all share a chuckle, no matter how old the other person is (a sixty year old geriatric and a twenty something graduate instantly laughing together over a common experience is a weird but amazing thing).  You all know what it's about.

Anyway, hope that gives you a sense of what it's all about, without giving you all the details of the gritty stuff.
2014-03-10 10:15:54 PM  
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8 inches: Is this the thread where I whine about how lame and secretly gay fraternities are?

/Was in a house and those memories are still my favorite and most fun.

This is where a Canadian who never lived anywhere where people do stuff like that wonders why American boys with money are so violent and kinky with their bonding rituals. That's some serious BDSM and emotional weirdness going on.
2014-03-10 11:07:39 PM  
1 vote:
Not trying to advocate for fraternity life or anything, but this is the text of The True Gentleman, btw, some of you guys might actually like it. It was not written with the fraternity in mind, but IIRC as a response to a request from a Baltimore newspaper for readers to submit the definition of a true gentleman:

The True Gentleman is the man whose conduct proceeds
from good will and an acute sense of propriety
and whose self-control is equal to all emergencies;
who does not make the poor man conscious of his poverty,
the obscure man of his obscurity,
or any man of his inferiority or deformity;
who is himself humbled if necessity compels him to humble another;
who does not flatter wealth,
cringe before power,
or boast of his own possessions or achievements;
who speaks with frankness but always with sincerity and sympathy;
whose deed follows his word;
who thinks of the rights and feelings of others rather than his own;
and who appears well in any company;
a man with whom honor is sacred and virtue safe.

John Walter Wayland, 1899
2014-03-10 09:55:33 PM  
1 vote:

skinink: Why "Pinto"?

"WHY NOT?!?"

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Heh.  We just watched that movie here yesterday.  Wife is not American, so we're catching up on our "dumb American movie classics" I feel she needs to see.

(next up: Top Gun, then Major League)
2014-03-10 09:42:08 PM  
1 vote:
They say they're banning pledging but I don't believe it. If they actually gave a shiat they'd have stopped or at the very least SERIOUSLY rethought the way they did things after the first death. They didnt, so they're completely retarded, and are probably continuing pledging in secret, and will get caught when someone else dies.

I dont get the mind set, when every year theres at least one story coming out of someone dying or almost dying and whatever school/group they were with gets hit with a big scandal, but the other fraternities/sororities just go "Who cares! LET IT RIDE!"

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Its baffling
2014-03-10 09:40:42 PM  
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drewogatory: 8 inches: Is this the thread where I whine about how lame and secretly gay fraternities are?

/Was in a house and those memories are still my favorite and most fun.

No, this is the thread where frat boys call haters "just jealous".


2014-03-10 09:34:43 PM  
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8 inches: Is this the thread where I whine about how lame and secretly gay fraternities are?

/Was in a house and those memories are still my favorite and most fun.

No, this is the thread where frat boys call haters "just jealous".
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