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(LA Times)   Talking and texting are still illegal, but a California court of appeals has ruled that it's perfectly okay to use a cell phone while driving ... if you use it as a map. Which is mixed news for Apple Maps users   ( latimes.com) divider line
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2014-02-28 11:39:01 AM  
3 votes:

The water was cold: I have no problem with people checking their virtual "maps"; as long  as they do what we used to do with actual maps - pull off to the side of the farking road, or (hopefully) parking lot  to do so!

The real question I've always had is: is it more dangerous to be lost & confused, or to spend 500 milliseconds glancing at your gps so you actually know where to turn.  If one were to actually follow your theoretical instructions to the letter & try to pull off onto the side of the road every time there were any question about where to turn, then in an unfamiliar neighborhood one would end up weaving in & out of traffic to get to the shoulder or generally driving indecisively.  Glancing at a GPS seems like the lesser evil in some cases.
2014-02-28 12:04:08 PM  
1 vote:

waterrockets: It's too bad that smartphones and self-driving cars didn't arrive at the same time. This is going to be a rough decade or so.

Autodrive cars can't get here fast enough. So much bullshiat would just... go away.
2014-02-28 12:00:19 PM  
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2014-02-28 11:55:14 AM  
1 vote:

The Irresponsible Captain: Good.

/If we can get them to legislate away the outdated GPS map device that every car manufacturer bolts in where a radio would go, we'd be set.
//Not everyone wants to lease a new car every three years.

I like that you can buy a garmin for $99 but an inferior and out of date dash model adds 5k to the cost of the car.
2014-02-28 11:39:32 AM  
1 vote:
Just underscores the problem with the "no phones while driving" laws which were totally un-necessary and criminalize conduct that is identical in nature to all kinds of other activities people regularly engage in while driving (eating, putting on lipstick, talking to other people in the car, fiddling with the radio, having a dog, looking at a AAA road-map, etc.) that are equally likely to create a hazardous situation, but are non-prosecutable UNLESS THE DRIVER IS DRIVING UNSAFELY.

There are already "reckless driving" rules on the books in all 50 states - and if you are engaging in activities that distract you in an unsafe way from your driving activities (looking at a paper map, trying to put hot sauce on your Taco-Bell at 70mph or talking, texting, surfing, map-questing on your phone) then you can be pulled over and ticketed for it without any extra laws on the books.

This puts officers, legislators, drivers, and courts in a terrible position.  It is not written into law that looking at a paper map while driving is illegal.  It is written into law that looking at a mobile phone map while driving is illegal.  This makes the court step in and say "no, mobile phone map use while driving is legal" when that's NOT what was needed.  Looking at a paper or mobile phone map while driving can be done in both legal (safe) and illegal (unsafe) ways and the officer should be able to treat both accordingly.
2014-02-28 11:08:53 AM  
1 vote:
I have no problem with people checking their virtual "maps"; as long  as they do what we used to do with actual maps - pull off to the side of the farking road, or (hopefully) parking lot  to do so!
2014-02-28 10:57:18 AM  
1 vote:
See, now that is how state attorneys are supposed to act.  Argue FOR the state's law, even if it is a dumb assed law.  If there is anything that deserved an attorney general saying 'i'g going to choose to not defend this law', this is it.

But no.  We have the US attorney general saying it is basically ok for Attorneys general to make their own law.
2014-02-28 09:10:53 AM  
1 vote:
Probably because they've been selling separate GPS boxes for cars for years and you can mount a phone on your dash the same way.
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