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jake_lex

2014-02-17 01:15:11 PM

The whole point of the article can be summed up with this JPEG:

Diogenes

2014-02-17 01:18:15 PM

Well, a percentage of them can.

clancifer

2014-02-17 01:25:24 PM

jake_lex: The whole point of the article can be summed up with this JPEG:

Absolutely.

DamnYankees

2014-02-17 01:27:47 PM

Occassionally reality matters.

nekom

2014-02-17 01:49:51 PM

jake_lex: The whole point of the article can be summed up with this JPEG:

[churchandstate.org.uk image 425x367]

How is voter infromed? How people got infromatrion?

themindiswatching

2014-02-17 01:51:53 PM

*stamps feet* Benghazi IS a scandal!1!

b2theory

2014-02-17 01:52:16 PM

Our country is screwed.

433

2014-02-17 01:53:29 PM

nice, nekom.

Tigger

2014-02-17 01:58:50 PM

The more you lie the less credibility you have.

That's not an enomously complex finding.

doyner

2014-02-17 02:25:09 PM

So there's a difference between news and farking chickens?

Somacandra

2014-02-17 02:46:13 PM

FTFA: And Fox is the experienced TV muckraker, having gamely tried to tag the Obama administration with a series of supposed scandals such as Solyndra, Operation Fast and Furious, and the IRS auditing episode, often prioritizing such stories when more traditional outlets put them on the back burner...Fox's credibility is shot precisely because of itsbreathlessly deeming multiple pseudo-scandals as "Worse Than Watergate."

It's not just about infroming....

Lionel Mandrake

2014-02-17 02:49:49 PM

Steve Kornacki: actual journalist with a brain
Sean Hannity: not so much

Skleenar

2014-02-17 02:52:54 PM

Well, sure, but if Hillary was involved in any real scandals, like Benghazi, then she'd be toast for the nomination.

El Pachuco

2014-02-17 02:56:00 PM

FTFA: Fox sometimes hits upon a Democratic scandal that is not fictional

Fox News - Sometimes Credible - We report, you decide.

Lord_Baull

2014-02-17 02:56:28 PM

Um, not Real Americans^TM, subby.

Victoly

2014-02-17 02:58:41 PM

nekom: jake_lex: The whole point of the article can be summed up with this JPEG:

[churchandstate.org.uk image 425x367]

How is voter infromed? How people got infromatrion?

They need to do way instain reporter> who kill thier infromation. becuse these infromation cant frigth back?
it was on the news this mroing a terorost in bengazi who had kill her four dipolomats . they are taking the four dipolmat back to new york too lady to rest my pary are with the father who lost his chrilden ; i am truley sorry for your lots

ongbok

2014-02-17 02:59:02 PM

jake_lex: The whole point of the article can be summed up with this JPEG:

[churchandstate.org.uk image 425x367]

Are there that many bad spellers in the world? I can understand words that you may not use or read everyday, or those words that have weird spelling rules, but simple words like informed I don't understand. And didn't they have a friend that saw the sign and said "That's spelled wrong"? Or is it that their whole circle are bad spellers?

mrshowrules

2014-02-17 03:00:19 PM

Skleenar: Well, sure, but if Hillary was involved in any real scandals, like Benghazi, then she'd be toast for the nomination.

How was Benghazi a scandal?

UrukHaiGuyz

2014-02-17 03:01:40 PM

ongbok: jake_lex: The whole point of the article can be summed up with this JPEG:

[churchandstate.org.uk image 425x367]

Are there that many bad spellers in the world? I can understand words that you may not use or read everyday, or those words that have weird spelling rules, but simple words like informed I don't understand. And didn't they have a friend that saw the sign and said "That's spelled wrong"? Or is it that their whole circle are bad spellers?

I'd like to offer a counterargument to your insightful questions:

Aquapope

2014-02-17 03:01:47 PM

Lord_Baull: Um, not Real AmericansTM, subby.

Real Americans^TM feel truth in their guts. They don't pollute truth with facts or reason.

Kevin72

2014-02-17 03:01:57 PM

Let it not be forgotten for those who DRTFA, when there finally was a Democrat scandal, Wienerghazi, MSNBC was just as hard on the Wiener as FOX was.

/the Fox who cried wolf.

Kevin72

2014-02-17 03:03:39 PM

GET A BRAIN, MORAN!

Doktor_Zhivago

2014-02-17 03:04:46 PM

Can -ghazi be the suffix to every scandal now? -gate is getting old

Kevin72

2014-02-17 03:05:09 PM

mrshowrules: Skleenar: Well, sure, but if Hillary was involved in any real scandals, like Benghazi, then she'd be toast for the nomination.

How was Benghazi a scandal?

Because it was worse than Watergate, that's why.

doyner

2014-02-17 03:05:42 PM

Doktor_Zhivago: Can -ghazi be the suffix to every scandal now? -gate is getting old

-gate is for a real scandal
-ghazi is for a witch hunt

starsrift

2014-02-17 03:05:55 PM

FTFA: As a result, Fox has created itself a sizeable audience, but drowns it in a swamp of fever dreams and cuts it off from the reality-based community.

I believe they mean to say "liebruls", here.

Zeppelininthesky

2014-02-17 03:06:43 PM

Some of us can tell the difference. There are still some out there that cannot because they just parrot talking points from Fox "News" and Limbaugh.

Kevin72

2014-02-17 03:07:22 PM

Doktor_Zhivago: Can -ghazi be the suffix to every scandal now? -gate is getting old

Yes. Do your patriotic duty to our lexicon and just do it. I know I've done it even in this thread.

Skleenar

2014-02-17 03:07:43 PM

Kevin72: Because it was worse than Watergate, that's why.

And it was unlawful. Out of control Executive. Emboldening our enemies. I could go on, but it's kind of pointless. Libs just don't respond to reason.

Ben Ghazi

2014-02-17 03:08:46 PM

mrshowrules: Skleenar: Well, sure, but if Hillary was involved in any real scandals, like Benghazi, then she'd be toast for the nomination.

How was Benghazi a scandal?

Aw, Jeez. Not this shiat again.

BSABSVR

2014-02-17 03:09:37 PM

Doktor_Zhivago: Can -ghazi be the suffix to every scandal now? -gate is getting old

Gatefatigueghazi

ikanreed

2014-02-17 03:09:43 PM

The sad truth is that Fox is in a great position even if their audience dwindled to a fraction of other news sources. Sucker-Americans are worth a fortune to advertisers, and Fox News does a fantastic job of slicing them out of the herd.

Kevin72

2014-02-17 03:10:24 PM

doyner: Doktor_Zhivago: Can -ghazi be the suffix to every scandal now? -gate is getting old

-gate is for a real scandal
-ghazi is for a witch hunt

I think you are correct on that. Something felt not right about Wienerghazi because it was legitimate. So, back to Wienergate.

mrshowrules

2014-02-17 03:14:59 PM

Ben Ghazi: mrshowrules: Skleenar: Well, sure, but if Hillary was involved in any real scandals, like Benghazi, then she'd be toast for the nomination.

How was Benghazi a scandal?

Aw, Jeez. Not this shiat again.

Ben, you have some splaining to do.

yakmans_dad

2014-02-17 03:15:53 PM

Skleenar: Well, sure, but if Hillary was involved in any real scandals, like Benghazi, then she'd be toast for the nomination.

You're playing Snooker on a Pool table.

yakmans_dad

2014-02-17 03:17:47 PM

BSABSVR: Doktor_Zhivago: Can -ghazi be the suffix to every scandal now? -gate is getting old

Gatefatigueghazi

Wouldn't it be great if there were a scandal involving a diaphanous evening dress?

Gauzygownghazigate.

mrshowrules

2014-02-17 03:19:01 PM

yakmans_dad: Skleenar: Well, sure, but if Hillary was involved in any real scandals, like Benghazi, then she'd be toast for the nomination.

You're playing Snooker on a Pool table.

He's playing flamenco guitar on a tampon string

Learned Hand Job

2014-02-17 03:19:57 PM

Doktor_Zhivago: Can -ghazi be the suffix to every scandal now? -gate is getting old

I prefer going with a forgotten classic, and referring to every scandal with the suffix "-pot Dome".

Dr Dreidel

2014-02-17 03:20:18 PM

Oh, by the by, do you politically-minded farkers know when and how the phrase "Worse than Watergate" really got moving (recently, anyway)? The title of a 2004 book by John Dean about George W Bush's ascendance to the presidency and mismanagement of the country once he got there.

John Dean, who was Nixon's WH counsel - so he might know a thing or two more about Watergate than most of us keyboard activists, and therefore carries a bit of weight - was Barry Goldwater's protege, and wrote two follow-ups (Conservatives Without Conscience, a great takedown of the 2006-era Republican party of Katrina, Schiavo and Social Security privatization; and Broken Government, about the genesis of the still-continuing gumming up of the machinery of government) excoriating the right for farking up governing and governance, largely as tit-for-tat over Watergate (Cheney, Rumsfeld and many other Bushies were former Nixonites).

// they tried to pin the Watergate coverup on Dean at first

Bith Set Me Up

2014-02-17 03:23:02 PM

Tigger: The more you lie the less credibility you have.

That's not an enomously complex finding.

People who lie all the time always assume everyone's lying to them.

The My Little Pony Killer

2014-02-17 03:25:17 PM

I accidentally made the mistake of clicking over to their political cartoons, and now I has a dumb.

yakmans_dad

2014-02-17 03:26:45 PM

mrshowrules: yakmans_dad: Skleenar: Well, sure, but if Hillary was involved in any real scandals, like Benghazi, then she'd be toast for the nomination.

You're playing Snooker on a Pool table.

He's playing flamenco guitar on a tampon string

+5 internet points.

stratagos

2014-02-17 03:27:14 PM

Study it out

Ben Ghazi

2014-02-17 03:29:21 PM

mrshowrules: Ben Ghazi: mrshowrules: Skleenar: Well, sure, but if Hillary was involved in any real scandals, like Benghazi, then she'd be toast for the nomination.

How was Benghazi a scandal?

Aw, Jeez. Not this shiat again.

Ben, you have some splaining to do.

Look, it's like this, you see? Um, there was this... this girl, and she and I, well, we kinda hit it off, and you know that apartment complex near the stadium? The one with the green signs all over it? Kinda artsy? Yeah, well, she lives there and we hung out all night and got high and there was this awesome band a few doors down...

Anyway, where was I? Oh, right. I did not have scandalous relations with that woman, Hillary Rodham Clinton.

Her daughter, though...

Triple Oak

2014-02-17 03:29:25 PM

My twitter feed derped hard thanks to one guy retweeting idiots still upset about Benghazi. Apparently celebrating President's Day for people who "didn't leave 4 people behind in Benghazi" is a thing. Lest we forget how wonderful the country was with W in charge...

Rixel

2014-02-17 03:30:43 PM

jake_lex: The whole point of the article can be summed up with this JPEG:

[churchandstate.org.uk image 425x367]

Never really noticed it before......there are two different styles of the letter 'F' in that sign. Strange. As well as the mixing of upper and lower case seemingly at random. Love the 'Amercia"!

Cletus C.

2014-02-17 03:31:57 PM

Seriously, they're giving MSNBC and Maddow credit for exposing and giving truth to the Christie scandal? That's a stretch, saying a few dozen viewers helped sink his barge.

Jim_Callahan

2014-02-17 03:33:57 PM

Plus, even if you take both accusations 100% completely dead seriously... the GOP's accusing Mrs. Clinton of kind of a bullshiat PR move that was slightly inconvenient for members of congress. Christie is being accused of corruption on the order of running what amounts to organized crime.

Sort of a fundamentally more interesting and important accusation even before you consider the GOP's one being nonsense.

namatad

2014-02-17 03:34:52 PM

FOX NEWS: WORSE THAN WATERGATE!!!
Translation: We just make shiat up and call it "Fox News".

udhq

2014-02-17 03:37:09 PM

It's decided: I'm going to open a hotel in D.C. called the Waterghazi and blow everyone's mind.

Monkeyhouse Zendo

2014-02-17 03:37:11 PM

Somacandra:

It's not just about infroming....

Man, that kid really wants to eat that bug...

Crapinoleum

2014-02-17 03:47:28 PM

jake_lex: The whole point of the article can be summed up with this JPEG:

[churchandstate.org.uk image 425x367]

"Infromed" has always caught the attention on this sign, but did you notice "Yes God Bless Amercia"? Did Mittens write this?

coeyagi

2014-02-17 03:48:38 PM

Doktor_Zhivago: Can -ghazi be the suffix to every scandal now? -gate is getting old

As stated in an earlier thread, -gate is for a real scandal, -ghazi is for fake scandals.

Ergo, Bridgegate.

Scorpitron is reduced to a thin red paste

2014-02-17 03:49:25 PM

Dr Dreidel: Oh, by the by, do you politically-minded farkers know when and how the phrase "Worse than Watergate" really got moving (recently, anyway)? The title of a 2004 book by John Dean about George W Bush's ascendance to the presidency and mismanagement of the country once he got there.

John Dean, who was Nixon's WH counsel - so he might know a thing or two more about Watergate than most of us keyboard activists, and therefore carries a bit of weight - was Barry Goldwater's protege, and wrote two follow-ups (Conservatives Without Conscience, a great takedown of the 2006-era Republican party of Katrina, Schiavo and Social Security privatization; and Broken Government, about the genesis of the still-continuing gumming up of the machinery of government) excoriating the right for farking up governing and governance, largely as tit-for-tat over Watergate (Cheney, Rumsfeld and many other Bushies were former Nixonites).

// they tried to pin the Watergate coverup on Dean at first

Bush's presidency is probably among the three worst in American history. He took a country with a budgetary surplus and foreign threats under control and transformed it into a security state victim of preventable terror, helped plunge it into a vast recession, and helped incite Republicans into a frothing-at-the-mouth, liberals-are-Devils rage at anything resembling comity and bipartisan government.

Fox News was there every step of the way.

/eh. It still pisses me off.

Jackson Herring

2014-02-17 03:50:51 PM

no, they can't, hope that helps

coeyagi

2014-02-17 03:54:04 PM

Cletus C.: Seriously, they're giving MSNBC and Maddow credit for exposing and giving truth to the Christie scandal? That's a stretch, saying a few dozen viewers helped sink his barge.

It's not that FoxNews viewers can't handle the truth, it's just that the truth doesn't agree with their narrative, a narrative that is based off of fear and loathing of their fellow man. So, yes, obviously, your funny about MSNBC (which has been told many times by many FarkCons as some evidence - of what - that more retards choose lies and bullsh*t than the alternative) means something, it means that MSNBC can't claim credit for this solely. It must be the rest of the liberal media!

You'd be get on the red herring signal, Cletus! Unite against the scourge of the liberal media!

Cletus C.

2014-02-17 03:58:24 PM

coeyagi: Cletus C.: Seriously, they're giving MSNBC and Maddow credit for exposing and giving truth to the Christie scandal? That's a stretch, saying a few dozen viewers helped sink his barge.

It's not that FoxNews viewers can't handle the truth, it's just that the truth doesn't agree with their narrative, a narrative that is based off of fear and loathing of their fellow man. So, yes, obviously, your funny about MSNBC (which has been told many times by many FarkCons as some evidence - of what - that more retards choose lies and bullsh*t than the alternative) means something, it means that MSNBC can't claim credit for this solely. It must be the rest of the liberal media!

You'd be get on the red herring signal, Cletus! Unite against the scourge of the liberal media!

Actually, I was referring to the fact MSNBC's viewership is pathetic. The Christie scandal was pursued with vigor by the "mainstream" media. If it had just been Maddow most people would never have heard or just chalked it up to another of her rants.

But then again, I have no idea what the fark you're talking about so there's that.

UrukHaiGuyz

2014-02-17 04:00:48 PM

Cletus C.: coeyagi: Cletus C.: Seriously, they're giving MSNBC and Maddow credit for exposing and giving truth to the Christie scandal? That's a stretch, saying a few dozen viewers helped sink his barge.

It's not that FoxNews viewers can't handle the truth, it's just that the truth doesn't agree with their narrative, a narrative that is based off of fear and loathing of their fellow man. So, yes, obviously, your funny about MSNBC (which has been told many times by many FarkCons as some evidence - of what - that more retards choose lies and bullsh*t than the alternative) means something, it means that MSNBC can't claim credit for this solely. It must be the rest of the liberal media!

You'd be get on the red herring signal, Cletus! Unite against the scourge of the liberal media!

Actually, I was referring to the fact MSNBC's viewership is pathetic. The Christie scandal was pursued with vigor by the "mainstream" media. If it had just been Maddow most people would never have heard or just chalked it up to another of her rants.

But then again, I have no idea what the fark you're talking about so there's that.

That's not how the news media works. Every major outlet jumps on anything juicy ASAP, and celebrity scandal is their bread and butter. It wouldn't have mattered who broke the story.

coeyagi

2014-02-17 04:01:56 PM

Cletus C.: Actually, I was referring to the fact MSNBC's viewership is pathetic. The Christie scandal was pursued with vigor by the "mainstream" media. If it had just been Maddow most people would never have heard or just chalked it up to another of her rants.

But then again, I have no idea what the fark you're talking about so there's that.

coeyagi: So, yes, obviously, your funny about MSNBC (which has been told many times by many FarkCons as some evidence - of what - that more retards choose lies and bullsh*t than the alternative)

No sh*t, sherlock. You have no idea that I was agreeing with you and giving you a reason for it?

FFS, man, it's time to start blaming yourself for your lack of reading comprehension. I write for a living and still get a paycheck for it, so it's time to start wondering about the man in the mirror.

JavierLobo

2014-02-17 04:06:17 PM

They can't make Benghazi stick because they can't tie the murderous acts of terrorists back to Obama/Clinton.

I think people grasp that Obama didn't attack that embassy, and that though it was bad, bad shiat happens in Muslim countries undergoing revolutions.

Whereas with the bridge thing you have a pretty clear link between Christie Administration --> Wildstein --> Bridge Closures thanks to that magic email.

coeyagi

2014-02-17 04:09:50 PM

JavierLobo: They can't make Benghazi stick because they can't tie the murderous acts of terrorists back to Obama/Clinton.

I think people grasp that Obama didn't attack that embassy, and that though it was bad, bad shiat happens in Muslim countries undergoing revolutions.

Whereas with the bridge thing you have a pretty clear link between Christie Administration --> Wildstein --> Bridge Closures thanks to that magic email.

But but but Benghazi is still real to me! If Issa wants answers, Obama had better give them to Issa! I mean, either Obama has a time machine and can fix this - OR - he could give a famous interview where he makes a plea to FUTURE TIME TRAVELERS to go back and fix Benghazi. That way, in the year 2248 or something, the future time travelers will stumble across the plea from Obama and happily oblige!

Cletus C.

2014-02-17 04:10:51 PM

coeyagi: Cletus C.: Actually, I was referring to the fact MSNBC's viewership is pathetic. The Christie scandal was pursued with vigor by the "mainstream" media. If it had just been Maddow most people would never have heard or just chalked it up to another of her rants.

But then again, I have no idea what the fark you're talking about so there's that.

coeyagi: So, yes, obviously, your funny about MSNBC (which has been told many times by many FarkCons as some evidence - of what - that more retards choose lies and bullsh*t than the alternative)

No sh*t, sherlock. You have no idea that I was agreeing with you and giving you a reason for it?

FFS, man, it's time to start blaming yourself for your lack of reading comprehension. I write for a living and still get a paycheck for it, so it's time to start wondering about the man in the mirror.

They pay for Penthouse Forum letters?

Devo

2014-02-17 04:17:20 PM

Benghazi is to scandal as Creationism is to science.

Faith based belief systems.

Triple Oak

2014-02-17 04:18:07 PM

coeyagi: FFS, man, it's time to start blaming yourself for your lack of reading comprehension. I write for a living and still get a paycheck for it, so it's time to start wondering about the man in the mirror.

Self-blame? That's not the conservative way of things! It's everyone else's fault Cletus is wrong!

HairBolus

2014-02-17 04:19:55 PM

I wonder to what extent dedicated Fox viewers realize that Fox is trying to manufacture scandals but go on to rationalize it as necessary to combat the lies invented by the liberal media.

SpectroBoy

2014-02-17 04:21:25 PM

aka

The FOX that cried Benghazi

coeyagi

2014-02-17 04:23:08 PM

Cletus C.: coeyagi: Cletus C.: Actually, I was referring to the fact MSNBC's viewership is pathetic. The Christie scandal was pursued with vigor by the "mainstream" media. If it had just been Maddow most people would never have heard or just chalked it up to another of her rants.

But then again, I have no idea what the fark you're talking about so there's that.

coeyagi: So, yes, obviously, your funny about MSNBC (which has been told many times by many FarkCons as some evidence - of what - that more retards choose lies and bullsh*t than the alternative)

No sh*t, sherlock. You have no idea that I was agreeing with you and giving you a reason for it?

FFS, man, it's time to start blaming yourself for your lack of reading comprehension. I write for a living and still get a paycheck for it, so it's time to start wondering about the man in the mirror.

They pay for Penthouse Forum letters?

Well, that wasn't bad, but I am going to now assume every time you deflect, in other words every response to me, you are in effect admitting you have no defense for my criticisms, be they about your lying or poor reading comprehension.

Bartman66

2014-02-17 04:25:48 PM

Gee.. Oh look... a cheerleader of the (left/right) is telling us how the other side is.....
////facepalm

plewis

2014-02-17 04:28:45 PM

Only some Americans can, unfortunately. A lot of Americans are farking stupid. Then again, the more people who finally realize that Fox News is not really telling the truth, even when the truth is absolutely plain to see, the better.

The Why Not Guy

2014-02-17 04:34:14 PM

Cletus C.: Actually, I was referring to the fact MSNBC's viewership is pathetic.

I love how Conservatives value ratings over accuracy in their news sources.

Skleenar

2014-02-17 04:35:17 PM

Bartman66: Gee.. Oh look... a cheerleader of the (left/right) is telling us how the other side is.....
////facepalm

I know. Both sides are bad. But the libs are worse than Waterghazigatepot dome.

Cletus C.

2014-02-17 04:36:59 PM

The Why Not Guy: Cletus C.: Actually, I was referring to the fact MSNBC's viewership is pathetic.

I love how Conservatives value ratings over accuracy in their news sources.

Huh? Listen bub, Community is getting hammered in the ratings by Big Bang Theory and American Farking Idol. That's the outrage!

Bermuda59

2014-02-17 04:37:36 PM

It would have been fun to see how FOX would have covered Watergate.

Cletus C.

2014-02-17 04:39:43 PM

Bermuda59: It would have been fun to see how FOX would have covered Watergate.

Water Under the Bridge Gate?
Administration Slimdown?

Garet Garrett

2014-02-17 04:39:56 PM

Americans can recognize the difference between ~~making up~~ wall to wall coverage of a scandal by every major news network and covering one up.

FTFY, smitty.

The liberal news networks that people actually watch had 17x more coverage of BridgeGate in 24 hours than of the IRS scandal in over 6 months.

As for Benghazi, you all can stop now. We get it. You don't care why Americans were in put harm's way, why they were killed, or why you were lied to about who did the killing. You don't care that the administration has refused to allow Congress to investigate those questions on your behalf. You don't care that the killers remain at large. It's a fake scandal because, well, "What difference, at this point, does it make?" We understand you quite clearly. CLINTON 2016!

Cletus C.

2014-02-17 04:41:55 PM

Garet Garrett: Americans can recognize the difference between making up wall to wall coverage of a scandal by every major news network and covering one up.

FTFY, smitty.

The liberal news networks that people actually watch had 17x more coverage of BridgeGate in 24 hours than of the IRS scandal in over 6 months.

As for Benghazi, you all can stop now. We get it. You don't care why Americans were in put harm's way, why they were killed, or why you were lied to about who did the killing. You don't care that the administration has refused to allow Congress to investigate those questions on your behalf. You don't care that the killers remain at large. It's a fake scandal because, well, "What difference, at this point, does it make?" We understand you quite clearly. CLINTON 2016!

Oh boy.

The Why Not Guy

2014-02-17 04:44:11 PM

Cletus C.: Huh? Listen bub, Community is getting hammered in the ratings by Big Bang Theory and American Farking Idol. That's the outrage!

And Fox News trounces MSNBC in the ratings, yet Fox viewers seem less infromed.

The Why Not Guy

2014-02-17 04:44:59 PM

Bermuda59: It would have been fun to see how FOX would have covered Watergate.

I'm not certain they would have.

theorellior

2014-02-17 04:45:59 PM

I'll just put this here...

Dusk-You-n-Me

2014-02-17 04:48:21 PM

Garet Garrett: The liberal news networks that people actually watch had 17x more coverage of BridgeGate in 24 hours than of the IRS scandal in over 6 months.

Sure, if you start counting IRS coverage on July 1st, two months after the story broke, two weeks after the IRS testified the WH was not involved, and one week after it was shown that groups with 'progressive' and 'occupy' in their names were also targeted.

Do you enjoy being lied to or do you just not care?

zarberg

2014-02-17 04:48:31 PM

The headline reminds me of that Dustin Hoffman/Robert Di Nero movie about covering up a scandal with a fake war.

Britney Spear's Speculum

2014-02-17 04:48:34 PM

Well lets see, Benghazi didn't prevent Obama's reelection why the fark would continuing to cover it produce results 4 years later

Skleenar

2014-02-17 04:48:34 PM

Hear hear. In all my years of non-partisan, dispassionate observation of the political process, I have never seen such a blatantly partisan and fact-free response to an issue as that of the libtards trying to shield their POTUS and SECSTATE from whatever it was that it is suggested they did that was blatantly scandalous in Benghazi.

Cletus C.

2014-02-17 04:49:04 PM

The Why Not Guy: Cletus C.: Huh? Listen bub, Community is getting hammered in the ratings by Big Bang Theory and American Farking Idol. That's the outrage!

And Fox News trounces MSNBC in the ratings, yet Fox viewers seem less infromed.

Fox viewers are well informed. Perhaps misinformed but that's a form of informed.

theorellior

2014-02-17 04:50:16 PM

Whoopsie!

Dr Dreidel

2014-02-17 04:50:52 PM

The Why Not Guy: Bermuda59: It would have been fun to see how FOX would have covered Watergate.

I'm not certain they would have.

Eh, just find the John Birch broadsheets from the mid-late 70s. That's what Fox would have done.

Gyrfalcon

2014-02-17 04:51:01 PM

mrshowrules: Skleenar: Well, sure, but if Hillary was involved in any real scandals, like Benghazi, then she'd be toast for the nomination.

How was Benghazi a scandal?

It just was.

Flatulent_Flea

2014-02-17 04:53:19 PM

thanksforkeepingusinfromed.jpg

This will blow your mind:

That picture was taken in Austin, Texas.
Yes, that person lives in the People's Republic of Austin.

The Why Not Guy

2014-02-17 04:53:40 PM

Duke Phillips' Singing Bears

2014-02-17 04:54:24 PM

The Why Not Guy: Bermuda59: It would have been fun to see how FOX would have covered Watergate.

I'm not certain they would have.

They would have, but they would have been telling us all about how it was McGovern's fault.

Nina_Hartley's_Ass

2014-02-17 04:56:28 PM

Bermuda59: It would have been fun to see how FOX would have covered Watergate.

"And there is absolutely no evidence President Nixon was ever anywhere near the Watergate..."

DeaH

2014-02-17 04:58:24 PM

mrshowrules: Skleenar: Well, sure, but if Hillary was involved in any real scandals, like Benghazi, then she'd be toast for the nomination.

How was Benghazi a scandal?

It is scandalous that people are politicizing a tragic event to try to manipulate elections. The fact that it didn't work for the 2012 election, but they are still pushing it for 2016 is pretty scandalously stupid.

DeaH

2014-02-17 05:04:48 PM

Garet Garrett: The liberal news networks that people actually watch had 17x more coverage of BridgeGate in 24 hours than of the IRS scandal in over 6 months.

You mean the one where a Bush-appointee said the White House had nothing to do with what the Cincinnati office was doing? You are correct that there is a scandal there - but it has more to do with the fact that anti-tax groups somehow do not expect more attention when they try to say they are non-taxable public service groups.

Garet Garrett: As for Benghazi, you all can stop now. We get it. You don't care why Americans were in put harm's way, why they were killed, or why you were lied to about who did the killing. You don't care that the administration has refused to allow Congress to investigate those questions on your behalf. You don't care that the killers remain at large. It's a fake scandal because, well, "What difference, at this point, does it make?" We understand you quite clearly. CLINTON 2016!

No, we just do not understand how an act of terrorism is different than a terrorist act. We also don't like it when people use dead bodies of Americans for no reason other than to win elections, and smirk about it at the same time. It's funny how all the various congressional investigations into Benghazi count the same as none to you.

Skleenar

2014-02-17 05:05:20 PM

DeaH: It is scandalous that people are politicizing a tragic event to try to manipulate elections. The fact that it didn't work for the 2012 election, but they are still pushing it for 2016 is pretty scandalously stupid.

And yet, libs are letting the DemocRats get away with it.

Weatherkiss

2014-02-17 05:05:56 PM

Crotchrocket Slim

2014-02-17 05:06:04 PM

Doktor_Zhivago: Can -ghazi be the suffix to every scandal now? -gate is getting old

How about -gate for real scandals and -ghazi for manufactured RW poutrage?

The Why Not Guy

2014-02-17 05:11:21 PM

Skleenar: And yet, libs are letting the DemocRats get away with it.

Please, go on... I'd love to hear this one.

CastIronStove

2014-02-17 05:18:41 PM

coeyagi: Doktor_Zhivago: Can -ghazi be the suffix to every scandal now? -gate is getting old

As stated in an earlier thread, -gate is for a real scandal, -ghazi is for fake scandals.

Ergo, Bridgegate.

I thought it was 10 gates to the ghazi.

Vlad_the_Inaner

2014-02-17 05:19:52 PM

Kevin72: mrshowrules: Skleenar: Well, sure, but if Hillary was involved in any real scandals, like Benghazi, then she'd be toast for the nomination.

How was Benghazi a scandal?

Because it was worse than Watergate, that's why.

Well, to be fair, what I saw of Bob Dole's apartment at the Watergate on TV, it looked pretty nice. So it's sort of easy for Benghazi to not be as nice.

Did you hear about bedbug problems or something?

theorellior

2014-02-17 05:20:43 PM

The Why Not Guy: Please, go on... I'd love to hear this one.

Pssst... you've got a hook in your mouth.

ksdanj

2014-02-17 05:21:45 PM

2/10

Skleenar

2014-02-17 05:25:35 PM

theorellior: The Why Not Guy: Please, go on... I'd love to hear this one.

Pssst... you've got a hook in your mouth.

Yeah, it's called the lamestream MSM drive-by media. He should try listening to some true Amercian journalists sometime, instead of the communists at CNBC.

DeaH

2014-02-17 05:32:41 PM

Skleenar: DeaH: It is scandalous that people are politicizing a tragic event to try to manipulate elections. The fact that it didn't work for the 2012 election, but they are still pushing it for 2016 is pretty scandalously stupid.

And yet, libs are letting the DemocRats get away with it.

Your meds need adjusting. It'll be okay. Just see your doctor. Soon.

spelletrader

2014-02-17 05:34:40 PM

Too much Poe's Law in this thread.

Skleenar

2014-02-17 05:40:43 PM

spelletrader: Too much Poe's Law in this thread.

Yeah. He was a huge libtard allright.

nyseattitude

2014-02-17 05:43:52 PM

Skleenar: Garet Garrett: Americans can recognize the difference between making up wall to wall coverage of a scandal by every major news network and covering one up.

FTFY, smitty.

The liberal news networks that people actually watch had 17x more coverage of BridgeGate in 24 hours than of the IRS scandal in over 6 months.

As for Benghazi, you all can stop now. We get it. You don't care why Americans were in put harm's way, why they were killed, or why you were lied to about who did the killing. You don't care that the administration has refused to allow Congress to investigate those questions on your behalf. You don't care that the killers remain at large. It's a fake scandal because, well, "What difference, at this point, does it make?" We understand you quite clearly. CLINTON 2016!

Hear hear. In all my years of non-partisan, dispassionate observation of the political process, I have never seen such a blatantly partisan and fact-free response to an issue as that of the libtards trying to shield their POTUS and SECSTATE from whatever it was that it is suggested they did that was blatantly scandalous in Benghazi.

Guys,
Are you aware you could have stopped at the sinker?

You didn't need to devour the rod and reel too.

theorellior

2014-02-17 05:45:40 PM

nyseattitude: Guys,
Are you aware you could have stopped at the sinker?

You didn't need to devour the rod and reel too.

They got the angler and his canoe, too.

Skleenar

2014-02-17 05:46:56 PM

nyseattitude: You didn't need to devour the rod and reel too.

Don't worry. I've got one of these, too:

JerkStore

2014-02-17 05:47:54 PM

I, for one, don't have an opinion until Sarah Palin gives it to me.

Skleenar

2014-02-17 06:00:20 PM

JerkStore: I, for one, don't have an opinion until Sarah Palin gives it to me.

See? This is what I hate--a blindly partisan allegiance to a "side" without considering facts. If it wasn't for the fact that Liberals are twice as bad, I'd have a tough time recommending people vote Republican.

grumpfuff

2014-02-17 06:11:07 PM

Cletus C.: Garet Garrett: Americans can recognize the difference between making up wall to wall coverage of a scandal by every major news network and covering one up.

FTFY, smitty.

The liberal news networks that people actually watch had 17x more coverage of BridgeGate in 24 hours than of the IRS scandal in over 6 months.

As for Benghazi, you all can stop now. We get it. You don't care why Americans were in put harm's way, why they were killed, or why you were lied to about who did the killing. You don't care that the administration has refused to allow Congress to investigate those questions on your behalf. You don't care that the killers remain at large. It's a fake scandal because, well, "What difference, at this point, does it make?" We understand you quite clearly. CLINTON 2016!

Oh boy.

It's always amusing when someone goes so far derp, even you have to say something about it.

Name_Omitted

2014-02-17 06:14:01 PM

Or, MSNBC has a better story to tell. People resonate a lot more with being dicked around by local politicians than they do with something that happened the other side of the world in a barley liberated country.

UrukHaiGuyz

2014-02-17 06:15:55 PM

Name_Omitted: Or, MSNBC has a better story to tell. People resonate a lot more with being dicked around by local politicians than they do with something that happened the other side of the world in a barley liberated country.

Take me to this place, for I have thirst.

Gyrfalcon

2014-02-17 06:36:18 PM

grumpfuff: Cletus C.: Garet Garrett: Americans can recognize the difference between making up wall to wall coverage of a scandal by every major news network and covering one up.

FTFY, smitty.

The liberal news networks that people actually watch had 17x more coverage of BridgeGate in 24 hours than of the IRS scandal in over 6 months.

As for Benghazi, you all can stop now. We get it. You don't care why Americans were in put harm's way, why they were killed, or why you were lied to about who did the killing. You don't care that the administration has refused to allow Congress to investigate those questions on your behalf. You don't care that the killers remain at large. It's a fake scandal because, well, "What difference, at this point, does it make?" We understand you quite clearly. CLINTON 2016!

Oh boy.

It's always amusing when someone goes so far derp, even you have to say something about it.

You know, I thought this particular troll was long gone. I'm sorry to see someone rattled the Benghazi bell and he came drooling out of his cage.

sobriquet by any other name

2014-02-17 06:52:15 PM

vygramul

2014-02-17 07:15:05 PM

theknuckler_33

2014-02-17 07:15:07 PM

Garet Garrett: The liberal news networks that people actually watch had 17x more coverage of BridgeGate in 24 hours than of the IRS scandal in over 6 months.

I love this one. The 24-hours after the bridgegate story broke compared to the 6 months ~January-June, 2013.

Apples-to-potatoes.

Thanks for emphasizing the point of TFA, though!

theknuckler_33

2014-02-17 07:17:54 PM

Dusk-You-n-Me: Garet Garrett: The liberal news networks that people actually watch had 17x more coverage of BridgeGate in 24 hours than of the IRS scandal in over 6 months.

Sure, if you start counting IRS coverage on July 1st, two months after the story broke, two weeks after the IRS testified the WH was not involved, and one week after it was shown that groups with 'progressive' and 'occupy' in their names were also targeted.

Do you enjoy being lied to or do you just not care?

LOL... I didn't even finish reading his comment.. I thought it was about Benghazi, but the point is the same... a 6 month period beginning after the supposed scandal was revealed to be a non-scandal compared to the 24-hours after the bridge thing broke. Pathetic.

ifarkthereforiam

2014-02-17 08:31:32 PM

Ever since Nixon, the republicans have been hell¬bent to nail a democrat because, both sides are bad therefor vote republican. Moral clarity and such.

God-is-a-Taco

2014-02-17 08:42:36 PM

It's still American TV news so any praise I'd have for MSNBC is limited.
It's just not possible for it to not be shiat.

TerminalEchoes

2014-02-17 09:08:11 PM

Libs have tried just as hard to make the bridge-thing (I refuse to use "gate") a scandal as Cons have tried to make Benghazi a scandal. Seeing as how absolutely nothing can be proven against Clinton or Christie, why can't everyone just stfu and focus on something that actually makes a difference?

Kevin72

2014-02-17 09:09:59 PM

Another "legacy" of Mein Kampf: when I was sampling the readings to get a clue of A-hole's thinking. Right from the start he dismisses how the "liberal media" will lie, defame, and dismiss his writings. Limbaugh and followers learned this well, as any time a media disputes his facts, "See, I told you! Liberal media!".

Nina_Hartley's_Ass

2014-02-17 09:23:29 PM

TerminalEchoes: Seeing as how absolutely nothing can be proven against Clinton or Christie, why can't everyone just stfu and focus on something that actually makes a difference?

They're in the process of proving that pretty much every state official in NJ but Christie knew about the lane closures.
Whether he's a liar or an idiot this is destroying his aspirations to the White House. Does that make a difference?

yakmans_dad

2014-02-17 09:30:16 PM

TerminalEchoes: Libs have tried just as hard to make the bridge-thing (I refuse to use "gate") a scandal as Cons have tried to make Benghazi a scandal. Seeing as how absolutely nothing can be proven against Clinton or Christie, why can't everyone just stfu and focus on something that actually makes a difference?

Well, it isn't a question of proving something about Benghazi and Clinton: there's nothing of consequence for her or Obama to have done. There was no way to have interceded. OTOH, Christie sounds like he was complicit in a criminal enterprise. People fleeing subpoenas isn't evidence one associates w/ honest mistakes. So, the two incidents aren't equal. One was a tragedy. The other was a crime.

Gyrfalcon

2014-02-17 10:15:14 PM

In our moment of triumph???

Thrag

2014-02-17 10:27:20 PM

The bridge thing is an actual scandal. The only question is whether Christie is directly involved or not.

contrapunctus

2014-02-17 10:39:33 PM

ikanreed: The sad truth is that Fox is in a great position even if their audience dwindled to a fraction of other news sources. Sucker-Americans are worth a fortune to advertisers, and Fox News does a fantastic job of slicing them out of the herd.

Food for thought here.

Networks' biases can be judged not on their programming, but their advertising. Advertisers want to know goddamn well which demographic they'll be reaching before they roll a campaign out.

I tuned in to FOXNEWS recently for a few laughs, and it struck me how narrow the advertising market seemed to be:

1. LifeAlert type products.
2. Gold "investment" opportunities.
3. Low end Billy Mays style commercials for stupid useless shiat like SlapChop.
4. Not a single ad for a high end item.

Conclusion: For all of FOX's crowing about ratings (an increasingly useless bragging point), the fact is that their audience seems to be old, poor, and ignorant. Even on their site they have ads for "Penny Stock Millionaires!" on the sidebar.

I'm sure FOX does well enough, but I think that their reputation as a broadcasting behemoth is overstated. The fact is, most people in this country DON'T watch them.

cousin-merle

2014-02-17 10:42:11 PM

ongbok: Are there that many bad spellers in the world? I can understand words that you may not use or read everyday, or those words that have weird spelling rules, but simple words like informed I don't understand. And didn't they have a friend that saw the sign and said "That's spelled wrong"? Or is it that their whole circle are bad spellers?

CSB: I went to a teabag protest once to counter-protest since it was my Congressional district. I had a very detailed sign with lots of words on both sides quoting the Constitution and the Bible, and one of the teabaggers was trying to make fun of me for it. I infromed him he had three words on his sign, and one of them was spelled wrong, which surprisingly made him walk away in silence. Later in the day, I was told by an elderly gentleman that the Jews only supported health care reform because they are a tribal people. The signs you see are are not outliers in the slightest, and it's not just the spelling.

cousin-merle

2014-02-17 10:43:38 PM

Kevin72: So, back to Wienergate.

I believe that's called a zipper.

contrapunctus

2014-02-17 10:49:05 PM

ifarkthereforiam: Ever since Nixon, the republicans have been hell¬bent to nail a democrat because, both sides are bad therefor vote republican. Moral clarity and such.

It's scandal-envy. Nixon did a fantastic job of tarnishing the dignity of the office of the Presidency, and the GOP has been salivating at the opportunity to find an equivalent Democrat ever since.

Nixon's scandal was actually a big turning point for the GOP because they interpreted the event as proof of the inherently liberal media. Everything from Limbaugh to O'Reilly goes back to the Republicans feeling like they had to push back against a phantom enemy. Nixon's resignation was the birth of the "liberal media" lie.

It's why the GOP tried the eviscerate Clinton over Lewinsky. They really thought they had a shot there to balance the scales, but it didn't quite work out that way. Nixon is still analogous with corruption. Clinton is analogous with indiscretion.

OceanVortex

2014-02-17 11:34:49 PM

Cletus C.: The Why Not Guy: Cletus C.: Actually, I was referring to the fact MSNBC's viewership is pathetic.

I love how Conservatives value ratings over accuracy in their news sources.

Huh? Listen bub, Community is getting hammered in the ratings by Big Bang Theory and American Farking Idol. That's the outrage!

That is an outrage. Community is the best show on tv.

/rick and morty growing on me though.

AeAe

2014-02-17 11:44:43 PM

Also Obama lied and people died. Don't you know?

Study it out is all I'm sayin'

amindofiron

2014-02-18 12:50:16 AM

cousin-merle: Kevin72: So, back to Wienergate.

I believe that's called a zipper.

Get this man an Internet immediately.

CorporatePerson

2014-02-18 01:01:37 AM

TerminalEchoes: Seeing as how absolutely nothing can be proven against Clinton or Christie, why can't everyone just stfu and focus on something that actually makes a difference?

Sorry concern troll, but the Christie story isn't going away until it makes sense. We still have no idea who shut down the bridge or why. We just know the order came from the governor's office. Hell, the feds don't even seem interested in the Bridgegate stuff. They're looking into the charges of corruption surrounding the Hurricane Sandy relief funds.

I love shiatting all over how terrible cable news is, but I feel like when they do the right thing we should encourage them. Isn't political corruption precisely the kind of thing the media should be covering? Lord knows we don't need any more coverage of Ted Nugent's twitter or whatever horseshiat 24 cable news networks usually report on.

ifarkthereforiam

2014-02-18 01:02:11 AM

contrapunctus: ifarkthereforiam: Ever since Nixon, the republicans have been hell¬bent to nail a democrat because, both sides are bad therefor vote republican. Moral clarity and such.

It's scandal-envy. Nixon did a fantastic job of tarnishing the dignity of the office of the Presidency, and the GOP has been salivating at the opportunity to find an equivalent Democrat ever since.

True that.

It's why the GOP tried the eviscerate Clinton over Lewinsky.

One of the truest things said on Fark. ... or anywhere.

Stoker

2014-02-18 02:21:22 AM

Stoker

2014-02-18 02:25:53 AM

Stoker

2014-02-18 02:26:38 AM

Sorry, had to make a correction. The first will go away shortly.

timswar

2014-02-18 06:28:34 AM

Cletus C.: Seriously, they're giving MSNBC and Maddow credit for exposing and giving truth to the Christie scandal? That's a stretch, saying a few dozen viewers helped sink his barge.

No, they're giving them credit for sticking with it and for covering actual scandals instead of fake ones.

Kibbler

2014-02-18 07:53:34 AM

Deliberately causing traffic jams and then trying to blame it on your aides: the very latest trend in expressing your faith

Those trapped commuters just sang and danced all day

SpectroBoy

2014-02-18 08:44:30 AM

Bartman66: Gee.. Oh look... a cheerleader of the (left/right) is telling us how the other side is.....
////facepalm

So vote Republican?

Aldon

2014-02-18 09:01:28 AM

Here's a hint right-wingers: A "scandal" needs something to be illegal or immoral to have happened.

Example:
Bridgegate (Christi): For political pay-back (immoral) the bridge was closed (maybe illegal).
Outing a CIA agent (Bush II): Illegal, and immoral with coverup (lying under oath) added.
Firing attorney generals who wouldn't pursue cases against Democrats (Bush II): immoral

Not a Scandal:
Katrina (Bush II): Just incompetence

Benghazi, IRS, Fast and furious. Nothing illegal, nothing immoral, if you stuck with incompetence maybe people would pay attention.

Aldon

2014-02-18 09:05:19 AM

vygramul: [www.bitlogic.com image 537x385]

[www.bitlogic.com image 557x395]

[www.bitlogic.com image 560x437]

[www.bitlogic.com image 560x420]

Perfectly shows why I can't even get past the premise the Benghazi truthers are trying to sell, it makes no sense.

Roy_G_Biv

2014-02-18 09:05:53 AM

Stoker: [imageshack.com image 800x622]

Oh, but a bastard son of a communist funded by a predatory money trader former Nazi collaborator do?

yakmans_dad

2014-02-18 09:08:10 AM

Aldon: Not a Scandal:
Katrina (Bush II): Just incompetence

Not true. The scandal was gutting FEMA.

Aldon

2014-02-18 09:12:18 AM

yakmans_dad: Aldon: Not a Scandal:
Katrina (Bush II): Just incompetence

Not true. The scandal was gutting FEMA.

Nope, just another indication of massive incompetence.

Nothing illegal or immoral. Just a disagreement with his policy which proved him to be incredibly wrong.

yakmans_dad

2014-02-18 09:29:27 AM

Aldon: yakmans_dad: Aldon: Not a Scandal:
Katrina (Bush II): Just incompetence

Not true. The scandal was gutting FEMA.

Nope, just another indication of massive incompetence.

Nothing illegal or immoral. Just a disagreement with his policy which proved him to be incredibly wrong.

We'll have to disagree. But I'd like to remind you that we have crimes where recklessness is one of the elements.

Hiro-ACiD

2014-02-18 11:14:54 AM

Bermuda59: It would have been fun to see how FOX would have covered Watergate.

Given Ailes developed the idea for FOX while working in the Nixon and Bush1 administrations for the express purpose of circumventing the "prejudices of network news" , I'm sure their coverage would have been fair and balanced.

http://gawker.com/5814150/roger-ailes-secret-nixon+era-blueprint-for -f ox-news

DesertCoyote

2014-02-18 11:32:00 AM

contrapunctus:

1. LifeAlert type products.
2. Gold "investment" opportunities.
3. Low end Billy Mays style commercials for stupid useless shiat like SlapChop.
4. Not a single ad for a high end item.

Conclusion: For all of FOX's crowing about ratings (an increasingly useless bragging point), the fact is that their audience seems to be old, poor, and ignorant. Even on their site they have ads for "Penny Stock Millionaires!" on the sidebar.

I'm sure FOX does well enough, but I think that their reputation as a broadcasting behemoth is overstated. The fact is, most people in this country DON'T watch them.

Why do I see the same types of ads on History2 then?

Lee Jackson Beauregard

2014-02-18 11:43:00 AM

"I have been thinking that I would make a proposition to my Republican friends ... that if they will stop telling lies about the Democrats, we will stop telling the truth about them." -- Adlai Stevenson

Stoker

2014-02-18 02:43:07 PM

Roy_G_Biv: Stoker: [imageshack.com image 800x622]

Oh, but a bastard son of a communist funded by a predatory money trader former Nazi collaborator do?

What? Elaborate please.

/Hmm, the first one didn't go away.

Vlad_the_Inaner

2014-02-18 05:22:53 PM

Stoker: Roy_G_Biv: Stoker: [imageshack.com image 800x622]

Oh, but a bastard son of a communist funded by a predatory money trader former Nazi collaborator do?

What? Elaborate please.

/Hmm, the first one didn't go away.

In before Kirk yelling ~~Khan~~ Soros!

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