whidbey: But I suspect you know that, and I'm not trying to make a lecture out of it . I just have a feeling that you're probably going to poo-poo the "support the Dems" suggestion.
Infernalist: Musikslayer: Infernalist: It's only a matter of time, though. They've lost the youth and people don't magically turn into bigots and xenophobes and religious lunatics just because they pass that magical boundary from 'young' into 'mature.'You'd be surprised about that one. I'm 49, I've seen quite a few people make the change, especially since FB came along and I'm hearing from people I knew 30 years ago. It's like watching a sci-fi Body Snatchers movie, I'll see someone from the past and say "Oh noes, they got Joe too!" Examples from my high school, via FB:One woman is all "drug-test those welfare bums". I used to smoke weed with her all the time, and she sold it too.One guy was super bright but cool, I think he graduated 2 years early. He's a surgeon who posts crazy stuff from WND and worse.One woman is "Family values" right wing Jebus. I slept with her, and I wasn't that popular, I think we all did at some point.2 of the guys that were badboys/drugs are cops. One of them is in prison for brutality to prisoners, he was Mr. Laid back stoner in the day. The other was body-snatched, I ran into him as an adult. He's literally a different personality, they stuck a badge on him and he went from Cheech and Chong to that Sgt. in "Full Metal Jacket" overnite.People change.I don't doubt that 'some' young folk will go stupid when they get older, but they won't be a majority.
Pocket Ninja: Which hurts more -- falling from 5 feet or falling from 25?Before you celebrate being higher in the polls, one should look down and contemplate how far the fall.
Bawdy George: Target Builder: DrBenway:Something like that has happened in North Carolina I believe. And having moved up here from Austin, I'm really getting a kick... aw, fark it.VA farker here.The state went for Obama in '08 and '12, has a Democrat Governor and two Democrat Senators but somehow, through the wonders of representative democracy, two thirds of the State House of Delegates and almost three quarters of the state's Representatives are Republican.Fixed for consistency.
Rapmaster2000: It only looks like that because the poll takers were biased. If you unskew the statisticals and study it out, it clearly shows that Republicans are much more popular. The problem is just messaging. If only voters heard our REAL views, then they would love them.
shut_it_down: Monkeyfark Ridiculous: Gerrymandering seems to be the linchpin for the GOP now. The next time the Democrats get a turn at drawing the lines, the wheels come off. And good riddance./unless of course the Democrats try to play fair rather than going for the killI think that if the Democrats play fair, then the kill happens in the election. Republicans can only sustain their advantage by gerrymandering. With Democrats getting a majority of house votes in 2012, you only have to reset districting to "neutral" for the Democrats to win.
Lamberts Ho Man: The gerymandering thing is interesting - GOP has used it to very successfully control state legislatures, and thereby the house in turn. But those safe districts are now so safe and isolated from challenge that their elections have gone full retard. This, in turn, gives us all those fantastic campaign sound bites and idiotic obstructionism in the house that turns off the moderates and independents to the point where the GOP gets their ass handed to them in the larger scale elections like the senate.
qorkfiend: One could argue that appeasement in 1938 was a full-on recognition of the objective reality that the United Kingdom and France weren't ready for an all-out mechanized war with Nazi Germany and that they had to buy as much time as they could to mobilize their own militaries.
BMFPitt: Both sides are differently bad.
a particular individual: Isitoveryet: until Jesus returns upon his velocipede velociraptor
JohnnyC: whidbey: But I suspect you know that, and I'm not trying to make a lecture out of it . I just have a feeling that you're probably going to poo-poo the "support the Dems" suggestion.Not really... I end up voting Democratic because there isn't any viable 3rd party out there and the Democratic candidates stand the best chance of keeping the Republicans out of office (which is essential in my opinion). I'm still an independent because I only find some common ground with Democratic policy. My hope is that at some point the Republican party will dissolve and be replaced with a new political party that actually wants to improve the country for everyone. I'm not holding my breath on that happening... but that's what I hope will happen at some point in my lifetime.
Corvus: Now if only those people came out and vote things would change rapidly.
Lamberts Ho Man: The gerymandering thing is interesting - GOP has used it to very successfully control state legislatures, and thereby the house in turn. But those safe districts are now so safe and isolated from challenge that their elections have gone full retard.
OgreMagi: If you don't think both parties are out to fark you up the backside every chance they get, then you aren't paying attention. Or you enjoy getting farked up the backside.
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