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2004-01-28 12:50:20 PM  

Recycled? I think W is doing a great job recycling his own stupidity...I guess we should just let it go...don't want to beat a dead horse...even though he "recycles" his own stupidity every time he opens his mouth. Is that the reason he doesn't like press conferences maybe?

Recycled...never thought I'd use that word in reference to Dubya...
2004-01-28 12:50:24 PM  
Has anyone else seen this ad that cbs is not going to air during the superbowl? It's quite well done, and there is some controversy over it here is the link, oh and i still cant do html

2004-01-28 12:50:25 PM  
Gore V. Internet:

No, Al Gore did not claim he "invented" the Internet, nor did he say anything that could reasonably be interpreted that way. The derisive "Al Gore said he 'invented' the Internet" put-downs are misleading distortions of something he said (taken out of context) during an interview with Wolf Blitzer on CNN's "Late Edition" program on 9 March 1999. When asked to describe what distinguished him from his challenger for the Democratic presidential nomination, Senator Bill Bradley of New Jersey, Gore replied (in part):

During my service in the United States Congress, I took the initiative in creating the Internet. I took the initiative in moving forward a whole range of initiatives that have proven to be important to our country's economic growth and environmental protection, improvements in our educational system.

Clearly, although Gore's phrasing was clumsy (and self-serving), he was not claiming that he "invented" the Internet (in the sense of having designed or implemented it), but that he was responsible for helping to create the environment (in an economic and legislative sense) that fostered the development of the Internet. Al Gore might not know nearly as much about the Internet and other technologies as his image would have us believe, and he certainly has been guilty of stretching (if not outright breaking) the truth before, but to believe that Gore seriously thought he could take credit for the "invention" of the Internet in the sense offered by the media is just silly. (To those who say the words "create" and "invent" mean the same thing: If they mean the same thing, then why have the media overwhelmingly and consistently cited Gore as having claimed he "invented" the Internet when he never used that word? The answer is that the words don't mean the same thing, but by substituting one word for the other, commentators can make Gore's claim sound [more] ridiculous.)

source: Snopes.com

Anyone who still thinks Gore claimed that he invented the Interweb is a retard. Shut up. Research.
2004-01-28 12:50:27 PM  
The only people stupider than Bush are the people who blindly support him.
2004-01-28 12:50:53 PM  

Now how about a quote in context?
2004-01-28 12:51:30 PM  
I love the excuses being offered here: "The speechwriter/transcriber must be a liberal saboteur!" (I should have invested in tin-foil hats early.)

"Wow, you liberal idiots don't think he writes his own speeches, do you?"

Jeez, is it too much to ask that he actually gives the speeches a once-over before dribbling that nonsense to the public?

The soft bigotry of low expectations, indeed.
2004-01-28 12:52:06 PM  
Some more:

Vint Cerf responded to MSNBC's questions about the Net's origins with this e-mail:
VP Gore was the first or surely among the first of the members of Congress to become a strong supporter of advanced networking while he served as Senator. As far back as 1986, he was holding hearings on this subject (supercomputing, fiber networks...) and asking about their promise and what could be done to realize them. Bob Kahn, with whom I worked to develop the Internet design in 1973, participated in several hearings held by then-Senator Gore and I recall that Bob introduced the term ``information infrastructure'' in one hearing in 1986. It was clear that as a Senator and now as Vice President, Gore has made it a point to be as well-informed as possible on technology and issues that surround it.

As Senator, VP Gore was highly supportive of the research community's efforts to explore new networking capabilities and to extend access to supercomputers by way of NSFNET and its successors, the High Performance Computing and Communication program (which included the National Research and Education Network initiative), and as Vice President, he has been very responsive to recommendations made, for example, by the President's Information Technology Advisory Committee that endorsed additional research funding for next generation fundamental research in software and related topics. If you look at the last 30-35 years of network development, you'll find many people who have made major contributions without which the Internet would not be the vibrant, growing and exciting thing it is today. The creation of a new information infrastructure requires the willing efforts of thousands if not millions of participants and we've seen leadership from many quarters, all of it needed, to move the Internet towards increased availability and utility around the world.

While it is not accurate to say that VP Gore invented Internet, he has played a powerful role in policy terms that has supported its continued growth and application, for which we should be thankful.

We're fortunate to have senior level members of Congress and the Administration who embrace new technology and have the vision to see how it can be put to work for national and global benefit.

Here's Vint Cerf's bio:
2004-01-28 12:52:17 PM  
Kerry is the most electable of the candidates because he looks and behaves as one would expect a president to look and behave. That he's not pushing for any drastic sorts of reforms doesn't hurt.

He's the most reasonable, and as such, will likely win by default.
2004-01-28 12:53:08 PM  
OMG LOL the president said something that wasn't gramatically correct HE IS A COWBOY AND THIS IS ALL A CONSPIRACY AGAINST US DEMOCRATS

seriously people, when making an analysis of someone else, consider all parts of the argument:

you are most likely an nobody who got an education from Cucamunga community college and the president of the united states graduated from both Harvard and Yale.

Please take your grammar elsewhere, liberals
2004-01-28 12:53:18 PM  

point taken but irrelevant nonetheless. since i spend 50 or more hours a week grading papers and copy editing material, i could give a fark what my writing in my personal time looks like (the lack of capitalization is to illustrate what my posts and emails look like most of the time). so if you'd like to try and belittle me over a grammar mistake (which is the very thing you were saying no farker should do), go ahead. i'll just keep on not caring. :)
2004-01-28 12:53:21 PM  
Mods, can we ban people like greenpants for not picking a side during a flame war?

Articulate, balanced and reasoned is no way to be on Fark, son.
2004-01-28 12:53:37 PM  
Contributions from Coalition member nations range from: direct military participation, logistical and intelligence support, specialized chemical/biological response teams, over-flight rights, humanitarian and reconstruction aid, to political support.

I'd like to see a breakdown of which countries have sent troops and money. Any takers?
2004-01-28 12:53:55 PM  
jdave - i still can't believe you're fighting over a post that was obviously a joke - that's amazing...i'm shocked SHOCKED

and btw - just because you can copy and paste doesn't mean you researched
2004-01-28 12:54:04 PM  
jdave -- um, the quote is right there:

"During my service in the United States Congress, I took the initiative in creating the Internet."

granted, it's surely not what he meant to say, but then we'd never have a thread or comments around here based on a politician fumbling over his words, now would we?
2004-01-28 12:54:22 PM  
I say again:

They typed it wrong. He said levelS citing the reports from each state.

2004-01-28 12:54:23 PM  
RCL-longhorn, the problem is, Bush is a chronically bad speaker. He doesn't make occasional gaffes or extended yelling noises. No, he mangles the language on a regular basis. He must know that he has that tendency. Yet despite that, he keeps trying to use words he's uncomfortable pronouncing. If a president is a representative to the rest of the world of our nation, it is a legitimate issue whether our head of state can speak and express himself clearly.
2004-01-28 12:54:37 PM  
"The ambassador and the general were briefing me on thethe vast majority of Iraqis want to live in a peaceful, free world. And we will find these people and we will bring them to justice."Washington, D.C., Oct. 27, 2003
2004-01-28 12:55:00 PM  
Zulu, I think that's Mark Crispin Miller. His book, if I recall correctly, is titled Bushsisms.
2004-01-28 12:55:26 PM  
You liberals can scream all you want. The fact of the matter is that you are powerless to stop the neo-con take-over of this country. If you try to vote Bush out of office, we'll just suspend elections in the intrest of homeland security. Mwahaha!
2004-01-28 12:56:02 PM  
Summation of above:

Bush Sucks Bush Sucks Bush Sucks Bush Sucks
...no he doesn't...

Am I right? I don't want to bother reading through the comments to find out.

/didn't read the article OR the comments
2004-01-28 12:56:14 PM  
"With 3 or 4 exceptions, it's not exactly a "Who's Who in Global Power" list. I bet most Farkers couldn't place half of these on a map."

Yet they'll jump all over someone for making a grammatical error.
2004-01-28 12:56:17 PM  
Time to end this snooze-fest.

2004-01-28 12:56:18 PM  
"It's very interesting when you think about it, the slaves who left here to go to America, because of their steadfast and their religion and their belief in freedom, helped change America."Dakar, Senegal, July 8, 2003
2004-01-28 12:56:23 PM  
ACF - grammatically - you're not supposed to capitalize a letter at the end of a word - we should fight over it now
2004-01-28 12:56:23 PM  
"Africa is a nation that suffers from incredible disease." -- GWB
2004-01-28 12:56:41 PM  
"We are resolved to root out terror wherever it exists to save the world from freedom" - Dubya
2004-01-28 12:56:43 PM  
"Now how about a quote in context?"

Oh, right, like all of the Bush quotes that are constantly used by Dims are given IN CONTEXT??? Thank you for helping me prove my point. I was hoping one of you would point that out for me.

On another note: I have friends from Texas who are extremely anti-Bush. In their opinion, from their experience with him, there are two main things that people believe about Bush that are completely backwards: that he is dumb and that he is nice. In their opinion, he is INCREDIBLY intelligent and INCREDIBLY mean.
2004-01-28 12:56:55 PM  
Does taking part in a flame war make you a flamer......

/got nothing
2004-01-28 12:57:08 PM  
re: 'if Bush is SOOOOOOOO Stupid... How come he keeps beatin' them Democrats at the ballot box?'

Well, clearly he appeals to the legions of halfwits and retards out there in trailer-park land who've presumably overrun once-great America.

Just a wild guess, after reading this thread.
2004-01-28 12:57:15 PM  
We must go upward, not forward! Forward, not backward! And always twirling, twirling, twirling towards freedom!

/voted for Kodos
2004-01-28 12:57:47 PM  

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Wow, I'm surprised it wasn't until the 40th post than Bill Clinton was referenced.

Republicans just can't seem to let go of him, huh?

Ya think? Actually, it was the 7th post in if you want to get technical about it. Anything related to Clinton should count, imo.
2004-01-28 12:58:18 PM  
It's time to turn off the war machine, and turn on our children.
2004-01-28 12:58:24 PM  
"Border relations between Canada and Mexico have never been better." -- GWB
2004-01-28 12:58:49 PM  

jdave34..you need to STFU..

--Whenever you think you can make me, send me an email.

everytime someone says something here you spout off on wanting proof..

-- God forbid people should be asked to back up their statements.

you are usually ignored and I am sure wrap yourself in righteousness figuring you sure showed everyone.

--rarely ignored, but always self-righteous.

What exactly do you believe in anyway asshat?

--the rule of law, socialized health care and education, the right to abortion, science over faith, the Montreal Canadiens, truth in government, a truly free and independent press, small business over big business, the importance of taking care of our environment, respect for others, politicians with a conscience, Christian values over Christian rhetoric. Is that a good enough start, or would you like more?
2004-01-28 12:59:13 PM  
Bush can prove his intelligence by not supporting the Assault Weapons Ban. I will turn Libertarian if he sticks his nose out on this one.
Thank god for the house.
2004-01-28 12:59:22 PM  
"When Iraq is liberated, you will be treated, tried, and persecuted as a war criminal."Washington, D.C., Jan. 22, 2003
2004-01-28 12:59:39 PM  
I dunno whuts thuh big deal; I wenta publik skewl and hukked on fonix wurked fer me.
2004-01-28 01:00:12 PM  
hahahaah - jdave said "make me" - ahhh...brought back great memories of kindergarten...oh! wait wait - hey jdave...i know you are but what am i!?
2004-01-28 01:00:19 PM  
As long as we can put food on our families, I don't care how illiterate this IVY league educated man is.
2004-01-28 01:00:43 PM  
hahaha. the jdave34 jackassery continues...

better get off the keyboard before you break a hip jd.
2004-01-28 01:01:02 PM  

There is no context that can make that quote look smarter. That's not grammatical fumbling; that's plumb stupid. The ship is underway but there's no one at the wheel.
2004-01-28 01:01:03 PM  
To all you Bush lovers out there.... I could care less about his grammatical prowess, it's just funny. What I care about is:

War with no justification - over 500 American soldiers dead.
Haliburton, Enron, Worldcom.
Net loss of over 2 million jobs since he took office.
Allowing illegal aliens to take American jobs.
Largest deficit EVER only 4 years after a surplus.
Sticking the government nose into marriage and education.

That's why he sucks as a president and MUST not be re-elected.
2004-01-28 01:01:23 PM  
Jeez. Calm down. You are the first and last person I will ever 'grammar nazi' (mostly because I think it's dumb), but you pretty much walked right into it. Someone would've said something eventually. I just beat them to it.
2004-01-28 01:01:47 PM  
"Well, clearly he appeals to the legions of halfwits and retards out there in trailer-park land who've presumably overrun once-great America."

Funny since most Americans are concentrated in major metropolitan areas. I didn't realize the good people of Kentucky, North Dakota, et al had so much power. The major flaw in Dem thinking, one that makes me embarrassed to be SLIGHTLY to the left of center, is their elitism. Anyone who doesn't see the world the way they do is an IDIOT. It makes me sick.
2004-01-28 01:02:00 PM  
I'd stop Bush-bashing if he'd stop giving us material.
2004-01-28 01:02:39 PM  
"I was proud the other day when both Republicans and Democrats stood with me in the Rose Garden to announce their support for a clear statement of purpose: you disarm, or we will."Speaking about Saddam Hussein, Manchester, N.H., Oct. 5, 2002 (Thanks to George Dupper.)
2004-01-28 01:02:42 PM  

jdave - i still can't believe you're fighting over a post that was obviously a joke - that's amazing...i'm shocked SHOCKED

--Oh yes, that conservative standby. When proven wrong, claim that your statement was a joke.

and btw - just because you can copy and paste doesn't mean you researched

--likewise my friend.
2004-01-28 01:02:47 PM  
socialized health care and education...enough said. This battle of wits is with an unarmed opponent (you). You must be in the French part of Canada.
2004-01-28 01:02:58 PM  

Mods, can we ban people like greenpants for not picking a side during a flame war?

Articulate, balanced and reasoned is no way to be on Fark, son.

HEY! Alright, alright. I hear you.

Bushs tottaly stupid poopyhead.LOL OMGROFL!!


Better? I really want to be welcomed here. :-)
2004-01-28 01:03:11 PM  
Summation of above:

Bush Sucks Bush Sucks Bush Sucks Bush Sucks
...no he doesn't...

Heh heh heh. Read Weisenheimer's post while singing the badger song.

...mushroom mushroom...
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