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(Daily Mail)   Smoking or drinking during pregnancy can cause your baby to: A) be born premature, B) have deformities, or C) be gay   ( dailymail.co.uk) divider line
    More: Unlikely, Professor Swaab, University of Amsterdam, affect sexuality, bisexuality, pregnancy, sexual orientation, smoking, womb  
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2014-01-19 08:01:18 PM  
4 votes:
Dick Swaab

Seriously?? Tell me I'm being punked.
2014-01-19 11:41:45 PM  
2 votes:

Slartibreakfast: stevenvictx: hubiestubert:

Anyone who posts that much crap on a site like this has NOTHING useful to say... I am amazed you actually read it.

Newbie much? Yep. Don't worry, you'll learn.

I read everything hubie writes. He's rational, erudite, and thoughtful.

Generally a pleasure to read, and he's hawt. And he can cook.
2014-01-19 10:56:01 PM  
2 votes:
In an evolutionary sense, homosexuals actually do make sense. At least when there are siblings.

Single births, not so much. No genetic information passed on, though society still can coerce folks to marry, procreate, and still be closeted--more a social construct, but one that still forces folks to "choose." In an early evolutionary sense, homosexuals still contribute in the troop and tribal dynamic though. One theory is that particular stessors in the womb can force expression of homosexuality. Too much stress during a pregnancy means too little food, too little water, moving around a lot, that means the population maybe isn't served with more folks competing for mates. Homosexuals make sense in that setting: not competing for breeding, but still contributing to the well being of their families, and siblings. Those siblings share genes, and thus, a gay or lesbian sibling IS contributing to the passing on of genes, and helping their siblings' children. In a troop or tribal setting, those individuals are still valuable to the survival of the whole, while not adding to the stress of finding mates for the breeders. The species has non-breeders who contribute to the survival of the whole, and their siblings, and take some of the stress off the community as a whole, and help ensure the survival of the whole. Those traits are still passed on through their siblings, and thus the traits ARE survival related, though not in the most direct sense. Those who have homosexual siblings still pass on their genes, and then perhaps a generation or two down the line, stressors again trigger, and lo, the cycle begins anew, still conserving that gene for the survival of those related.

Artificial stressors triggering this sort of genetic mechanism would make some sense. The mother's body doesn't make a conscious "decision" to "make" a baby homosexual, but a mechanism linked to stress or conditions would make some sense. The tribe is under stress, competition would be increased, and homosexuality would be good for the whole genetic line, and thus, our ability to KEEP putting out yowuns makes some sense, and likewise, the family unit is maintained and cared for.

Not provable, at least without a lot more testing on stressed populations, but there are studies that show populations that have undergone a great amount of stress, like during the Blitz in England, have had increased rates of homosexuality beyond the usual 10%. It will probably take a few more generations of study to sous it out, but I suspect that we're on the right track. These variations aren't exactly "non-survival" as much as conservation within the species. Our complex social lives IS a survival trait, and we've been breeding for a couple of hundred thousand years to cement survival traits, and not all of them are as straightforward as "Thag f*cks b*tches!"

How long did it take to breed dogs like dachshunds, who are fair far from the usual model for wild dogs? To breed not just for body traits, but behavior and attitude? Humans have been self selecting traits, and in social units for a damn sight longer than the 3000 BC that short legged hounds have been found in human settlements. We have continued to select traits that continue to conserve these variations, and that suggests that they aren't just normal and natural, they are actually traits that have helped us survive for a long ass while...
2014-01-19 08:02:55 PM  
2 votes:
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2014-01-20 03:24:20 AM  
1 vote:

Slartibreakfast: Anyone who posts that much crap on a site like this has NOTHING useful to say..

This site wasn't "like this" until shiatheads like you showed up. Due to the continuing coolness of Drew people like you will continue to ruin it until it is gone.
2014-01-20 01:11:21 AM  
1 vote:
hubie, don't listen to the naysayers.

You're a gem among Farkers.
2014-01-20 01:06:53 AM  
1 vote:

quatchi: fusillade762: You can call me a sockpuppet too, because I always enjoy Hubie's posts.

Add me to that list. Hubie was one of my early favorites and remains so to this day.

Basically what I was getting at with Wonka up there.

I'm pretty sure Hubie is one of the few Farkers that is almost universally liked and respected here.

If you want to tl;dr his posts, go right ahead. But it's your loss.
2014-01-20 12:04:24 AM  
1 vote:

Slartibreakfast: DO NOT WANT Poster Girl: Slartibreakfast: stevenvictx: hubiestubert:

Anyone who posts that much crap on a site like this has NOTHING useful to say... I am amazed you actually read it.

Newbie much? Yep. Don't worry, you'll learn.

I read everything hubie writes. He's rational, erudite, and thoughtful.

Generally a pleasure to read, and he's hawt. And he can cook.

Hmmm... sockpuppet much or are you just a moran? Newbie is so last decade. Next time, just post the second and third lines... you might convince me that you're right.

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2014-01-19 11:58:09 PM  
1 vote:
This tableau of "scientific" glob
Is from a renowned brainy snob.
"Wine/weed ain't okay-
Your kid'll be GAY!
All this from a serious Dick Swaab.

2014-01-19 11:48:47 PM  
1 vote:

06Wahoo: hardinparamedic: You know, as a generalization, homophobic bigotry tends to overlap with the religious anti-abortion crowd.

I wonder how much of a cognitive dissonance would develop if science conclusively proved that sexual orientation and gender were definitively formed in utero, and could be identified before birth?

No, I'm not trolling. I genuinely think these people would be totally for killing as many of them as possible.

Killing?  Highly doubtful, given that this tends to be a group very much against abortion.  But if they could be convinced to support genetic engineering, they might push for fixes.  If homosexuality is genetic, then a little engineering could make a child straight.  Sure, it could go the other way as well, but I imagine many of them would prefer how homosexuality results staying somewhat indeterminate for as long as possible.

I suspect that brain structure, as it develops, determines sexuality, and development is in part epigenetic, so the final immutable structure of the brain is guided along the way by environmental cues.

That kind of engineering for brain development against gay development, if its true, is like needing to fine-tune an engine's manufacturing when you don't even know how it works or what any components even do...we are hundreds of years away from that level of understanding.
2014-01-19 10:58:10 PM  
1 vote:
You're the ones claiming to be "born that way."
2014-01-19 10:28:05 PM  
1 vote:
If this is true then pretty much everybody born before 1970 would be gay.
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