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(Quartz)   When it comes to maternity leave, the US is grouped with the coalition of the where the fark are these countries   ( divider line
    More: Fail, Swaziland, Lesotho, Papua New Guinea, International Labour Organization, paid parental leave  
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5527 clicks; posted to Main » on 15 Jan 2014 at 4:24 PM (4 years ago)   |   Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook   more»

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2014-01-15 03:14:43 PM  
5 votes:
One thing I have learned from living here is that any country that has more generous social policies than the US is "socialist" and any country that has less generous social policies is "repressive". Whatever policy the US has, right now, is the right policy.
2014-01-15 04:29:00 PM  
2 votes:
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2014-01-15 03:50:02 PM  
2 votes:
In all fairness, women in Papua New Guinea die when they give birth.
2014-01-16 08:16:37 AM  
1 vote:

capt.hollister: Dwindle: Start paying women the shiat wages they get in Europe, and they can have all the maternity leave they want.
There's a reason Swedish professional women make $25K a year.

A) I won't even dispute your numbers because comparing wages between countries is a meaningless exercise.What really matters is what can this putative Swedish professional do with her take-home pay ? remember that she has no medical or dental bills, daycare is heavily subsidized, she has at least 6 weeks vacation a year, her education and her children's education is free, when she retires she'll have a generous government pension plan, etc...

Now, take an American professional and start deducting all the out-of-pocket expenses which have to come out of her take-home pay. I will grant you, though, that she probably has a bigger house and drives an SUV which she uses every single day for her long commute from a distant suburb.

B) Why Sweden ? why not, for example Australia, Canada, or New Zealand ? is it, perhaps, because incomes in those countries are competitive with the US while social services are considerably superior, though not as good as Sweden's  ? What about Switzerland where income is higher and social services far, far better than in the US ?

STRYPERSWINE: "We should be more like (insert name of inferior country)".
"ok sure."

You do what you want, but if I were you I would strive for the US to be more like (insert name of superior country)

There can be no superior countries, so your argument is not going to sway him. Canada has commiecare, so everything else about it is irredeemably farked, and Australia and New Zealand are so far away they're obviously pretend.
2014-01-15 06:48:11 PM  
1 vote:

Hobodeluxe: Americans are quickly becoming 3rd world labor.

But working harder, for less money, increases shareholder value.

It's really the duty of every patriot to sacrifice himself to further advance his betters.
2014-01-15 06:46:22 PM  
1 vote:

stevenvictx: 12 months? what if you have a kid every year?

<Grandfather from Peter and the Wolf>What then?</Grandfather from Peter and the Wolf>

Americans love to invent nonexistent reasons why creating a civilized society would never work.
2014-01-15 06:35:52 PM  
1 vote:

stevenvictx: slantsix: Cymbal: And Paternity Leave? Oh wait, that doesn't even exist here.

In Canada, there's 'leave' which doesn't discriminate between parents, AFAIK.  Mom wants to stay home the whole 12 months? Go for it.  or dad?  Or mom and dad (or mom and mom) want to split it somewhere down the line? No problemo.

But hey, socialism and all that, am I right?

12 months? what if you have a kid every year? Do you never have to work again?

That's right!  My wife and I figured that out about fifteen years ago and the day she got promoted to assistant manager we started our diabolical plan and its been working ever since.  The biggest joke is on the franchise owner because he has to keep her picture above the happy meal menu like the other assistant managers.  Next year the oldest gets pulled out of school and sent to work for the same franchise the wife 'assistant manages' and we start the whole cycle again with her and her boyfriend.  We cannot lose!
2014-01-15 06:25:56 PM  
1 vote:
So don't hire women of childbearing age.

Problem solved.
2014-01-15 05:30:34 PM  
1 vote:

abhorrent1: There's a woman at my work that had two kids in about a year and a half. She would take the full maternity leave, come back for a day or two, then take 4 weeks vacation. I say the leave should be on a sliding scale depending on how much vacation you have.  Take the vacation time first and fill in the balance with leave.

/I'm a man, can I have maternity  leave too?

You poor thing.  Men are so oppressed.
2014-01-15 05:02:00 PM  
1 vote:

AngryDragon: Contents Under Pressure: Cymbal: And Paternity Leave? Oh wait, that doesn't even exist here.

Right, daddy needs to recover from that C-section or episiotomy too.

Actually, daddy needs to take care of baby while mommy recovers from that C-Section or episiotomy.  Unless daddy is a loser or deadbeat.

Mommy doesn't sound very bootstrappy.
2014-01-15 05:01:37 PM  
1 vote:

LemSkroob: I feel no problem not paying someone for not doing their work due to a personal choice they made in life that isn't an option equally open to anyone else.

I also dont enjoy taking on someone elses work, which they are getting paid for but not doing.

you want to spawn? Get your affairs in order first.

There's the USA we all know and love.
2014-01-15 04:50:32 PM  
1 vote:
Subby seems to forget that the USA is the GREATEST country on God's green Earth. That alone triumphs ALL graphs, charts, statistics etc!!!!!!

2014-01-15 04:46:46 PM  
1 vote:
if corn farmers are getting paid to not grow corn, crotchfruit farmers should get paid not to grow crotchfruit.  fark subsidizing your mistakes.
2014-01-15 04:34:50 PM  
1 vote:

libranoelrose: ikanreed: Australia isn't a 3rd world nation.

reading is fundamental

2014-01-15 04:34:20 PM  
1 vote:
For a country that's all "think about the children!!!" every time there's a nipple on tv, you sure have some barbaric social policies.

See also: the death penalty.
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