BadAndy23: ISIS is also operating in Syria.Well at least there's a chance they'll royally screw it up. If ODIN was operating there, then we'd have problems.
CruJones: BadAndy23: ISIS is also operating in Syria.Well at least there's a chance they'll royally screw it up. If ODIN was operating there, then we'd have problems.I laugh every time I see a reference to ISIS. They really need to change their name./I didn't pass out, I took a power blackout
under a mountain: Thanks Obama!
AverageAmericanGuy: I place the blame for this squarely on every asshole who signed up for military service after it was obvious we were going to invade Iraq. While the overall strategy was flawed, without volunteers and fresh recruits, we would not have been able to mount such an invasion and squander all the goodwill and support for the Afghan war we had after 9/11.A strong anti-Iraq war message from the people to the politicians would have done well, but that message wasn't sent as people were falling over themselves to get sent into the desert and people back home were so busy "supporting the troops" when they should have been "condemning the troops" for volunteering to fight an unnecessary and dangerous war that has ultimately made America less safe.Who couldn't have predicted that an underground terrorist operation that recruits from the angry families of those targeted by the American military as well as those who were killed as collateral damage would have grown in ranks and power from such an invasion and lack of focus? The answer is every American who supported the troops blindly, as if there were any merit in that.
USCLaw2010: CruJones: BadAndy23: ISIS is also operating in Syria.Well at least there's a chance they'll royally screw it up. If ODIN was operating there, then we'd have problems.I laugh every time I see a reference to ISIS. They really need to change their name./I didn't pass out, I took a power blackoutSo what you're saying is that there is some sort of zone of danger between on the Iraqi-Syrian border?
Amish Tech Support: Maybe if we change our name to the United States of Al Qaeda they will become confused and start sending us money.
Infernalist: Just an fyi, the vast surge of military volunteers came in the weeks after 9/11 when we were focused on Afghanistan.But, by all means, continue to foam at the mouth, it's amusing.
CruJones: This may mean something, I have no idea, but I don't know if judging them by the square mileage they control is a good method. Are their numbers up, more attacks, etc.? Or do they just control a huge swath of nothing?
AverageAmericanGuy: Infernalist: Just an fyi, the vast surge of military volunteers came in the weeks after 9/11 when we were focused on Afghanistan.But, by all means, continue to foam at the mouth, it's amusing.I have no problem with those folks. None at all. In fact, anyone who signed up between the 9/11 attacks and the beginning of the war drumming in Iraq I count as heroes. Unfortunately they got stuck in a position where they were required to participate in something they really didn't sign up for.
Prey4reign: This is not your father's al-Qaeda.
The Madd Mann: So you're saying we can't kill our way to peace? Who would have guessed?
Carn: We are at war with al qaeda. We have always been at war with al qaeda.
gshepnyc: We should never have treated them like a military enemy. We should have treated them like we did the Cosa Nostra other organized crime syndicates. And many people were saying that at the time but the Bushies and their mouth-breathing acolytes regarded that suggestion as tantamount to treason - like they regarded all other forms of criticism.By treating them like a military enemy, we raised them up to a level (in terms of their ability to recruit, raise fund and sell their message) that they never could have managed on their own. If we had treated them like low mobsters, on par with pimps and child pornographers and drug pushers, we'd have done a lot better.
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