qorkfiend: Is there some reason that law licenses should be restricted to citizens only?
UrukHaiGuyz: jjorsett: 1) Is there any right enjoyed by citizens that should be denied to non-citizens, particularly those who are in violation of the law by being here?2) Should the US have any restrictions whatsoever on immigration, and if so, should they be enforced, and if so, how?3) Should you ask any more ridiculously pants-on-head leading questions?No. No, you shouldn't.
karnal: qorkfiend: serial_crusher: Debeo Summa Credo: Seems to me a good way to raise the market wage for lawful US working class residents (something liberals would like) would be to deport the illegals (something conservatives would like but liberals oppose).Yup, clever conspiracy from the Democrats. Bring more illegals in to work for slave wages. Mandate untenable wages for legals, thus creating pressure on businesses to hire illegals instead. Basically the same con they've been running since 1861Are we deliberately ignoring the fact that deportations are at a record high under this administration?Also, lol @ "untenable wages".Yeah, but he still blames Bush.
MetryPapi: It has been said, but can never be repeated enough.People are not illegal . . . their actions may be, but fundamentally a person or people should never be classified as legal or illegal.When you kill someone intentionally, you are a murderer . . . not an illegal.When you go past the speed limit, you are a scofflaw . . . not an illegal.When you enter a country undocumented, you are an undocumented person . . . not illegal.
Pokey.Clyde: GoldSpider: Precisely. People don't understand that they would have a more compelling argument against illegal aliens if the naturalization process was made more reasonable.More reasonable? You do realize that the U.S. is the easiest place in the world to legally immigrate to, don't you?
Ivandrago: Three Crooked Squirrels: 2) that they have been screened for character and fitness. As for whether he meets the character and fitness requirements, my personal opinion is that the screening is in place to try to screen out people likely to fleece their clients, which doesn't seem to apply to a person simply because the are living in the US illegally.**I think the argument could be made that there is a higher likelihood that they could abscond with a client's money. My guess is that the argument was made, considered and rejected.I told them everything when I did my character and fitness, including when I got kicked off campus and told I couldn't live in the dorms anymore when my undergrad roommate ratted on me for smoking pot in my dorm room. I have no idea how this guy passed character and fitness because they asked for everywhere I'd ever lived. I even had to give them my APO's for those two years I spent in Iraq.
KIA: qorkfiend: Is there some reason that law licenses should be restricted to citizens only?There does seem to be a general consensus that if you're going to be an officer of the court and sworn to uphold the law, you ought not to be in violation of it and have a history of deliberately flouting the law.
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