fusillade762: '(The doctor) did not have much of an explanation for what happened. He took responsibility.'Clearly not an American hospital.
Bucky Katt: fusillade762: '(The doctor) did not have much of an explanation for what happened. He took responsibility.'Clearly not an American hospital.And yet the new parents are thinking about suing the doctor. American enough for you?
Hector Remarkable: Same thing happened with my old Nissan Altima - had the clutch done and then later I popped the hood and found a hammer.//Almost the same thing.
BigLuca: Somewhere there is a scrub nurse updating her resume.
Eddy Gurge: I thought the earlier headline was funnier. Complaining of clamps...
Primum non nocere: I've performed over ~100 C-sections. You have to try hard to fark-it up that bad. In fact, unless there was huge bleeding leading to extraordinary measures, I can't imagine how a pair of Mayo scissors or Allis clamps would be left behind.Now with other more complex GYN cases, I can begin to understand how a break-down in safety measures might occur, but with anything other than 1 in 10,000 C-S? Hell, no.Studies have confirmed the most obvious of obvious. The vast majority of misadventure with retained instruments happen in either a cluster-fark of an emergency situation , or where multiple surgical teams are involved (e.g. combined ortho & plastics, or combined GYN and Urology, etc.).Compared to just 10-15 yrs ago, the safety protocols for retained instruments are much higher. In fact, it's to the point of annoying because the scrub team stops paying attention the last 5 minutes of every case in order to count, re-count, document, and re-document every sponge, needle & instrument over and over again. Pretty much I have to close by myself these days, a difference compared to just 7-10 years ago.
ajgeek: Inventories, how do they work!?
Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Eh, to be fair, I'd rather fark a surgical instrument than a vagina that's crapped out a kid.
aevorea: As a woman who had a c-section a few weeks ago and having a difficult recovery (on my third script for Percocet), I am NOT getting a kick...
js34603: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Eh, to be fair, I'd rather fark a surgical instrument than a vagina that's crapped out a kid.That's pretty dumb, even by Fark standards.
Danger Avoid Death: So are they pliers or scissors? Or is it the same thing? The article and headline says pliers, but both photo captions say scissors. The x-ray looks like it could even be a hemostat. Of course the only thing I know about hemostats is that they make excellent roach clips.
indy_kid: BigLuca: Somewhere there is a scrub nurse updating her resume.Do they have to carry malpractice insurance like the surgeons? I want the surgeon to focus on ME; let the scrub nurse count the tools and sponges.IANANurse, but wouldn't it be routine to do the count? Also, wouldn't it make sense to have someone else check the pre/post-op counts? Just sayin'....
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