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(KTLA Los Angeles)   After 63 years, Korean War MIA Joseph Gantt's remains return home. His 94-year old widow, who never re-married, greets his coffin, rises from her wheelchair. LAX is dusty   ( ktla.com) divider line
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2013-12-22 12:18:47 AM  
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DrPainMD: DrBenway: DrPainMD: The more we call these guys "heros," the more likely that we'll keep having more wars and more people sent home in body bags. There's hasn't been a challenge to our national sovereignty since the War of 1812. Let's call these guys what they really are: chumps and cannon fodder. The guy was a sucker to throw his life away in a war that had absolutely nothing to do with defending this country.

He began his career in WWII. Was he a chump then, too? Was everyone who died in that war a chump? Show your work.

See the bolded/underlined line, above. If we had stayed out of WW1, WW2 never would have happened. If we hadn't done everything we could to get the Japanese to attack (which, according to the "pre-emptive" strike supporters, was totally defensive [google: flying tigers]), we would have had no excuse to enter WW2. There's nothing defensive about building and maintaining an empire, and politicians don't care how many people die helping them achieve their political/financial ambitions. So, yes, those who fought in WW2 were also chumps.

Mind blown.
2013-12-21 11:33:54 PM  
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vicioushobbit: saturn badger: vicioushobbit: Seems we have a difference in opinion in the definition of "hero."

I consider anybody who willingly gives their life to save another a "hero," and in military situations, even when it's on orders, when one guy dies, there's a damn good chance he did something to save somebody in the process.  I consider any firefighter, policeman, or soldier who dies in the line of duty a hero, because they go to work each day knowing there is a good chance they might not come home.

I wonder what you consider "above and beyond,", what you consider a "hero."

In this story the person involved didn't willingly give their life for anyone so I'm guessing your definition of hero does not work here. We have a disconnect to when you say when every firefighter, policeman or soldier who dies in the line of duty he is a hero.  I go along with your idea that if someone willingly gives their life to save someone else they achieve hero status.

But not everyone who dies in the line of duty is a hero. So a roof falls on a firefighter and kills him. Is he a hero if he is not dying to save the life of the puppy crying in the corner? Or is he if he is trying to save the puppy? I know this is splitting stupid straws but you get my point or I hope you do.

Just choosing a dangerous profession and getting killed while doing it does not make them a hero for doing so. I do admire those who do though.

My definition of hero has been bolded so you can see that yes, i do consider this guy a hero.

A firefighter gets in her truck on his way to a call and knows that she can die from a number of hazards.  But she goes anyway.  I don't care if she's going because of a paycheck, because the pay ain't that great.  Most of them do it because they know if they don't answer the call, people will die.  I've known several volunteer firefighters in my life, and I wish I had the determination they do.

I don't care if the police officer got his uniform just because he thought it had a gr ...

Granted and a good reply. I know a police man turned fire marshall turned bomb expert. To him it is a job. Each step of the way was from more money. He went to Iraq teaching them how to disarm bombs. If he died disarming one we have a dilemma. Would that make him a hero or just someone who lived on the edge for the money?

We live on a fine edge on who is a hero and who is not. Do we consider all people who work in dangerous professions heroes? Where do we draw the line? How about the people who repair our highways every day? The also live in a dangerous situation. One drunk driver and they could be history. Tow truck drivers who work the highways. I used to do mobile trailer repair and many times late at night on the highways. Believe me it was scary sometimes changing big rig tires on the highway roadside late at night. If I was killed was I a hero?

Nope. I was just doing my job. Thank deity I no longer do that. It was not fun.

Choosing a profession does not automatically make someone a hero. Sometimes it is just a job.
2013-12-21 09:09:01 PM  
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Some things just don't warrant humor.
2013-12-21 09:04:01 PM  
1 vote:
My feels...
2013-12-21 08:08:39 PM  
1 vote:

Thelyphthoric: Oldiron_79: Thats like Jurassic Bark level sad and touching.


As much as I like that show and as much as that episode touches me, one situation involves real people and the other is a cartoon.

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2013-12-21 07:51:59 PM  
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Oldiron_79: Thats like Jurassic Bark level sad and touching.


As much as I like that show and as much as that episode touches me, one situation involves real people and the other is a cartoon.
2013-12-21 07:28:51 PM  
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cameroncrazy1984: Touching story, but would have been nice to know the circumstances of his disappearance.

Did you not pay attention? He was a medic in the Korean war, captured in 1950 and died a few months later in a Nork prison camp. Being the assholes that they are, we've not been able to get his body back all this time. It's not that mysterious.

In fact, without knowing more, I can guess he was likely lost at Chosin, when MacArthur decided he was going to take on the entire Chinese Red Army with a battalion of Marines, with a combined US loss of 15,000 dead and missing. Over half of those taken captive did not survive the first winter.

Glad the Sergeant finally made it home.
2013-12-21 07:06:27 PM  
1 vote:
I want so bad to troll but it feels so wrong!!!!!  Ugh!!!!!

Okay-- here it goes:

You think she'd at least have got her hair did.

Wow. That was tough. But I managed to get it done.  Nice lady. Real patriot.  God bless 'me both and the right to troll he helped defend.
2013-12-21 07:00:54 PM  
1 vote:
So like...  she's available now?

/You knew some one was going to say it...

Yes, dusty and etc...
2013-12-21 06:58:41 PM  
1 vote:
Job well done. Rest in peace, Sgt.
...and what a gal. She waited.

My allergies are acting up.
2013-12-21 02:59:28 PM  
1 vote:
Welcome home, Sarge. Rest In Peace.
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