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2013-12-05 10:10:30 AM  
4 votes:
I was promised geodesic domes.

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Ganymede was promised geodesic domes, and look what that got them.
2013-12-05 10:20:34 AM  
2 votes:
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But redder.
2013-12-05 01:11:23 PM  
1 vote:
Quantum Apostrophe:
No, the ones that keep fantasizing about impossible technologies and remote possibilities are the ones wasting their time.

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There are rules in life! We cannot fly to the moon. We cannot defy death. We must face facts, not folly. You don't live in the real world.
2013-12-05 12:54:13 PM  
1 vote:

Quantum Apostrophe: Dingleberry Dickwad: You're more than welcome to go live with only the tech we had 30 years ago. That would at least spare us your idiocy. Make sure you also tell the doctor that any evaluation and treatment for whatever you're visiting him/her must be done only with what was available to them 30 years ago as well.

Yet none of those things are what's required to enable the insane Space Nutter ideas. Glad to see we agree. 30 years ago we already had computers everywhere, cars and planes did the same thing, houses and food and clothes were the same.

None of the changes from the last 30 years point to better propulsion on the scale to match the size of space. We're still going to LEO and GEO, we're still sending (better) tin cans to take (better) pictures of remote dead rocks.

The basic principles haven't changed in 30 years, and there is nothing to indicate we've missed some huge chunk of physics or chemistry.

I don't know how to put it plainer. You're conflating things that don't compare and think you're clever.

Computers got better. Medical care is better. Fine.

OK, now go build a rocket, or a plane, or a car. Chances are, you'd build the same thing as we had 30 years ago with the same materials, the same physical principles, the same energy sources, the same theories.

What is so hard to grasp about this?

Do you try to be a condescending jerk in these threads, or is it something you can't control? If it's the former, your message gets lost in the delivery. If it's the latter, you have my sympathies.
2013-12-05 12:12:22 PM  
1 vote:

Khellendros: Seriously, though - this thread is one of your more thoroughly insane efforts. It's really a work of art.

Oh I know. Completely insane. Pointing out that we're limited to actual materials and real engineering.

Clearly, I just need to believe harder. Not a religion at all.

So, we're alone in the universe? We're the only ones who are going to figure out how to travel among the stars?

How special for us!

Here I was thinking we're just one among countless stars separated by vast gulfs of deadly nothing.

Instead, I now realize the universe is a mall-sized artifact full of like, stuff, man, for us to plunder!

Pack the bags honey, they've put a big rubber band on a tree! We're going to Mars! Yeehaw!!!!
2013-12-05 12:02:29 PM  
1 vote:

mr lawson: Quantum Apostrophe: Now, go build it.

well...i did just purchase 6.3 acres for the express purpose of research and development of it.
Ground breaking should be around Feb.

As for material science. I will admit, i do not have a P.h.D in it. My degree is in Econ. However, living near Oak Ridge, I do know more than a few people who do and they have expressed interest in helping developing it, which is nice i guess.

OK. Let's watch how it goes. My money is on: "forgotten within a year". At best, you have an expensive and unconventional way of launching a specially-hardened grapefruit into LEO.

In other words, nothing.

Hollie Maea: It would be interesting if we got a colony started up on Mars, and then some disaster pushed back civilization and prevented us for going back for a million years.  I wonder how much the species would diverge during that time?

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2013-12-05 11:53:11 AM  
1 vote:
Oh sure, it's all fun and games NOW, but you just wait.

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2013-12-05 11:21:28 AM  
1 vote:

Slaxl: Quantum Apostrophe: meanmutton: Not worth the trillions it would cost to get people to Mars, no, but it's kind of sad to look up at the heavens, see that the near infinite vastness full of stars and planets that no human will ever set foot on.

No human will ever set foot on the core of the Earth either. Is that sad too? Well then go grab a shovel!

Guess what? All those stars and planets? They're the same matter as right here. It's gonna be the same thing.

It's like saying there is an infinite vastness of carbon atoms in China that will never be inside your body. (Considering that a lot of our food comes from there that's not really accurate)

And that makes you sad? Why? You have carbon atoms right here.

It's just that you aggrandize something you'll never have. It's emotional. It's like that chick you walked by and didn't talk to. She's obviously so much hotter and better and smarter and cuter than your real girlfriend, right? Nah, not really.

When you think it through, it makes little to no sense to pine about these things.

For what it's worth, I think there is plenty of life in the universe like we have right here. They probably look at us and think of us as the infinite vastness they'll never set a tentacle on.

So what?

Then toss in the fact that as you say, our engineering and technology are simply too limited to even play in our back yard, and you want to move to another country?

Grow up.

You are some profoundly desolate wasteland of sentiment. If everyone was like you the human tribe would never have left Africa.

Thog already have bone, why Thog try shape knife?  Thog is knife nutter.
2013-12-05 11:04:24 AM  
1 vote:

Quantum Apostrophe: To sum it up:

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2013-12-05 10:30:25 AM  
1 vote:
My first ever landing on Duna was quite nearly a success:
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It was a one way trip from the start, so I wasn't too upset I didn't stick the landing.  Besides, it was only Hanmore Kerman.

In Career mode, my first Duna attempted landing resulted in the loss of Bill Kerman because I came out of warp too late...
2013-12-05 09:25:25 AM  
1 vote:
I would, but I can't seem to do anything but shoot into orbit around the sun and run out of fuel.
2013-12-05 09:08:24 AM  
1 vote:

I commend the author for consistency.
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