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2013-11-17 9:22:28 AM  
CBS has more important things to over saturate us with like CSI: Dover.
 
2013-11-17 9:24:21 AM  
I don't really care. Any Star Trek that comes to TV will not be the real Star Trek, it will be J.J. Abrams fan fiction.
 
2013-11-17 9:44:55 AM  
It couldn't be any worse than Enterprise.
 
2013-11-17 9:47:48 AM  

UNC_Samurai: It couldn't be any worse than Enterprise Voyager


FTFY
 
2013-11-17 9:53:15 AM  

Tr0mBoNe: UNC_Samurai: It couldn't be any worse than Enterprise Voyager

FTFY


Eh, V'ger wasn't bad when it was about 7 of 9 or the Doctor. And Enterprise wasn't that bad.
 
2013-11-17 10:25:45 AM  
Was someone blaming Abrams for this?
 
2013-11-17 10:26:23 AM  

Mugato: Tr0mBoNe: UNC_Samurai: It couldn't be any worse than Enterprise Voyager

FTFY

Eh, V'ger wasn't bad when it was about 7 of 9 or the Doctor. And Enterprise wasn't that bad.


I agree on the later, but not the former. Enterprise was decent. Voyager was an abortion.
 
2013-11-17 10:34:05 AM  

DamnYankees: I agree on the later, but not the former. Enterprise was decent. Voyager was an abortion.


Enterprise actually got good in the last season (except for the last episode). And Voyager had some good episodes, IMO. The characters were just so boring (except the aforementioned Doctor and Borg Girl).

I'd like a new TV series. Trek does better as a TV show than in motion picture form.
 
2013-11-17 11:00:18 AM  

UNC_Samurai: It couldn't be any worse than Enterprise.


Enterprise stumbled in the early seasons, but was getting pretty entertaining by the last season.  Poor writing doomed it.
 
2013-11-17 11:06:13 AM  

Mugato: Borg Girl


7 of Boobies. A size six borg in a size four jumpsuit.
 
2013-11-17 11:08:26 AM  

Mugato: Tr0mBoNe: UNC_Samurai: It couldn't be any worse than Enterprise Voyager

FTFY

Eh, V'ger wasn't bad when it was about 7 of 9 or the Doctor. And Enterprise wasn't that bad.


I just watched enterprise because I hate myself. It farking is that bad. 100% of every episode is just "Look here what is this? A phase pistol? Well boy howdy new fangled technology." "A teleporter! Why I never!"

That leaves out the farking stupid time travel. Which was farking unforgivable. Also that opening screamed lets try and broaden the market.

They really just wanted to make NCIS in space even back then, and fark man looking at the ratings they probably should have.

Also if they tepid results of Agents of Shield surely puts even the glimmer of a new star trek series far in the future.
 
2013-11-17 11:21:52 AM  

DamnYankees: Mugato: Tr0mBoNe: UNC_Samurai: It couldn't be any worse than Enterprise Voyager

FTFY

Eh, V'ger wasn't bad when it was about 7 of 9 or the Doctor. And Enterprise wasn't that bad.

I agree on the later, but not the former. Enterprise was decent. Voyager was an abortion.


We've just started rewatching Deep Space Nine from the beginning. I'm surprised how awesome it is right off the bat, as well as how interesting the character dynamics are. I remember this show as being really boring, and about spiritual stuff, until Worf shows up and the Dominion War starts, and that's usually when I've jumped in and enjoyed it. But I'm surprised how good the beginning has been this whole time, and I never know.

Then we tried Voyager... I shut it off after they got to the holographic space farm. Seriously? You bring a ship 70,000 light years away to help care for your people, and then you don't answer thier questions about what you brought them there for, and then you get MAD at them for not wanting a glass of your space lemonade? Seems like you kind of deserve what's happened so far.
 
2013-11-17 11:25:10 AM  

Fail in Human Form: UNC_Samurai: It couldn't be any worse than Enterprise.

Enterprise stumbled in the early seasons, but was getting pretty entertaining by the last season.  Poor writing doomed it.


Then that very last episode of Riker chopping vegetables for an hour was kind of a dump being taken on the whole series, as well as the actors who were in the show, before it. Oh wait, I'm sorry, it was a "valentine to the fans." Because what we all wanted was more Riker. I understand Jolene Blalock was super pissed about how it all ended.
 
2013-11-17 11:29:24 AM  

Mugato: DamnYankees: I agree on the later, but not the former. Enterprise was decent. Voyager was an abortion.

Enterprise actually got good in the last season (except for the last episode). And Voyager had some good episodes, IMO. The characters were just so boring (except the aforementioned Doctor and Borg Girl).

I'd like a new TV series. Trek does better as a TV show than in motion picture form.


I would like to see something darker for a new Trek series. I'm not talking JJ Abrams "darker". But more like, Breaking Bad darker. Meth deaelrs in space, or something. A federation crew that goes outside the law, maybe. And we watch to see how long it takes before someone takes them down. I don't care about the specifics, thats for the writers. But It'd be neat to see something that could compete with the AMC shows. But it'd most likely end up like Agents of Shield is right now... just more of the same.
 
2013-11-17 11:31:15 AM  

ThatBillmanGuy: Fail in Human Form: UNC_Samurai: It couldn't be any worse than Enterprise.

Enterprise stumbled in the early seasons, but was getting pretty entertaining by the last season.  Poor writing doomed it.

Then that very last episode of Riker chopping vegetables for an hour was kind of a dump being taken on the whole series, as well as the actors who were in the show, before it. Oh wait, I'm sorry, it was a "valentine to the fans." Because what we all wanted was more Riker. I understand Jolene Blalock was super pissed about how it all ended.


That's saying a lot.
 
2013-11-17 11:31:36 AM  

ThatBillmanGuy: Fail in Human Form: UNC_Samurai: It couldn't be any worse than Enterprise.

Enterprise stumbled in the early seasons, but was getting pretty entertaining by the last season.  Poor writing doomed it.

Then that very last episode of Riker chopping vegetables for an hour was kind of a dump being taken on the whole series, as well as the actors who were in the show, before it. Oh wait, I'm sorry, it was a "valentine to the fans." Because what we all wanted was more Riker. I understand Jolene Blalock was super pissed about how it all ended.


My fav part of enterprise
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2013-11-17 11:33:08 AM  
Regarding enterprise vs voyager, I will say that enterprise was worse.  Voyage for about the first 4 seasons(I think) was decent it went downhill after that though.  Enterprise I couldn't bear to watch.  I don't even really accept it as part of star trek.    That entire decontamination nonsense was unbearable; the writers clumsily aimed for titillation but only showed their ineptitude.

If they really want to make a new star trek series they should set it in that alternate reality where the klingons were on the verge of overpowering the federation.  Or perhaps a series focusing on the Terran empire.
 
2013-11-17 11:38:05 AM  
Let it die.

Just let it die.
 
2013-11-17 11:38:28 AM  

ThatBillmanGuy: I would like to see something darker for a new Trek series. I'm not talking JJ Abrams "darker". But more like, Breaking Bad darker. Meth deaelrs in space, or something. A federation crew that goes outside the law, maybe. And we watch to see how long it takes before someone takes them down. I don't care about the specifics, thats for the writers. But It'd be neat to see something that could compete with the AMC shows. But it'd most likely end up like Agents of Shield is right now... just more of the same.


They've got to something different other than rebooting TOS. TNG and DS9 worked because they took the franchise in new directions. Voyager at least tried to do the same. The Abrams movies are maybe a fun nostalgia trip, but they just rehash the old characters.
 
2013-11-17 11:45:12 AM  
How about a show about mirror universe Trek?

/Kneel before Empress Sato and lesbian Kira Nerys
 
2013-11-17 11:48:08 AM  
I'd like a show based on a one-off, like Berlinghoff Rasmussen (How's Matt Frewer doing?  He still around?)

Based during Next Gen, he's a 22nd Century guy trapped in the 24th century.

Fish out of water show not directly dealing with the Federation where he has the possibility of running into Trek alumni.
 
2013-11-17 11:48:53 AM  

BullBearMS: How about a show about mirror universe Trek?

/Kneel before Empress Sato and lesbian Kira Nerys


You got my vote.
 
2013-11-17 11:50:45 AM  
If Abrams is the one running it, I don't want a new TV show either.

If they get people who know what the fark they're doing, I'd love to see a new Trek series.
 
2013-11-17 11:51:40 AM  

Tr0mBoNe: UNC_Samurai: It couldn't be any worse than Enterprise Voyager

FTFY


Voyager was farking amazing compared to the shiatshow that was Enterprize.
 
2013-11-17 11:55:38 AM  

Tr0mBoNe: ThatBillmanGuy: Fail in Human Form: UNC_Samurai: It couldn't be any worse than Enterprise.

Enterprise stumbled in the early seasons, but was getting pretty entertaining by the last season.  Poor writing doomed it.

Then that very last episode of Riker chopping vegetables for an hour was kind of a dump being taken on the whole series, as well as the actors who were in the show, before it. Oh wait, I'm sorry, it was a "valentine to the fans." Because what we all wanted was more Riker. I understand Jolene Blalock was super pissed about how it all ended.

That's saying a lot.


Kind of says it all when the actress hired to be eye candy for sexless nerds questions the shows integrity.
 
2013-11-17 11:56:42 AM  

buntz: I'd like a show based on a one-off, like Berlinghoff Rasmussen (How's Matt Frewer doing?  He still around?)

Based during Next Gen, he's a 22nd Century guy trapped in the 24th century.

Fish out of water show not directly dealing with the Federation where he has the possibility of running into Trek alumni.


Chick from Star Trek IV.
Garak Origins.
The Adventures of Harry Mudd
Q generally messing up the place
 
2013-11-17 12:03:16 PM  

Tr0mBoNe: Chick from Star Trek IV.
Garak Origins.
The Adventures of Harry Mudd
Q generally messing up the place


No one wants to watch the future adventures of a marine biologist.
I don't know Garak (never watched DS9)
Young Harry Mudd adventures?  Take my money!
There was too much Q when he was on a random episode.  A whole series of Q?  Too much.

But Mudd or Rasmussen (or Mudd AND Rasmussen ) would be fun.
 
2013-11-17 12:03:23 PM  

Tr0mBoNe: buntz: I'd like a show based on a one-off, like Berlinghoff Rasmussen (How's Matt Frewer doing?  He still around?)

Based during Next Gen, he's a 22nd Century guy trapped in the 24th century.

Fish out of water show not directly dealing with the Federation where he has the possibility of running into Trek alumni.

Chick from Star Trek IV.
Garak Origins.
The Adventures of Harry Mudd
Q generally messing up the place


You mean sowing Discord?

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2013-11-17 12:03:29 PM  

derpy: Mugato: Borg Girl

7 of Boobies. A size six borg in a size four jumpsuit.


Yes, she was pretty and had big boobs but that aside, she was also an interesting character.


ThatBillmanGuy: Then that very last episode of Riker chopping vegetables for an hour was kind of a dump being taken on the whole series, as well as the actors who were in the show, before it. Oh wait, I'm sorry, it was a "valentine to the fans." Because what we all wanted was more Riker. I understand Jolene Blalock was super pissed about how it all ended.


Jolene Blalock used the word "appalling".

I would like to see something darker for a new Trek series. I'm not talking JJ Abrams "darker"

I'd love a Section 31 series. JJ's Trek farked everything up so that the whole universe is unrecognizable so it'd be hard to do anything really.
 
2013-11-17 12:04:01 PM  
I'd like them to move the universe forward and deal with the future (25th century if my ST memory is online) we know of from Enterprise: the time wars. It would allow them to rehash old ST in new ways with a crew of time-travelling Feds who move through all the other series's storylines, as well as create entirely new ones. Go full Quantum Leap on the ST universe. They could bring back whoever is still alive for cameos without having to do stupid things like Scotty gets caught in a transporter for two centuries, and we would get a new series not confined by all we've already seen and know about the ST universe without having to suffer another "reboot".

/the DS9 Trouble with Tribbles is my favourite episode, Dax's in miniskirt = awesome
 
2013-11-17 12:04:12 PM  

ThatBillmanGuy: DamnYankees: Mugato: Tr0mBoNe: UNC_Samurai: It couldn't be any worse than Enterprise Voyager

FTFY

Eh, V'ger wasn't bad when it was about 7 of 9 or the Doctor. And Enterprise wasn't that bad.

I agree on the later, but not the former. Enterprise was decent. Voyager was an abortion.

We've just started rewatching Deep Space Nine from the beginning. I'm surprised how awesome it is right off the bat, as well as how interesting the character dynamics are. I remember this show as being really boring, and about spiritual stuff, until Worf shows up and the Dominion War starts, and that's usually when I've jumped in and enjoyed it. But I'm surprised how good the beginning has been this whole time, and I never know.

Then we tried Voyager... I shut it off after they got to the holographic space farm. Seriously? You bring a ship 70,000 light years away to help care for your people, and then you don't answer thier questions about what you brought them there for, and then you get MAD at them for not wanting a glass of your space lemonade? Seems like you kind of deserve what's happened so far.


You do know that they explain why right? It's a two part opener. Seems pretty silly to put down a show within the first 20 minutes because they do not explain everything right away.
 
2013-11-17 12:07:48 PM  
Voyager had some bright spots.  As much as introducing 7 of 9 was a cynical attempt to boost flagging ratings with boobies in a catsuit, she turned out to be one of the best characters on the show with some of the best episodes.  It also had some of the worst shiat ever aired on Star Trek, like the warp 10 devolution to lizards episode.

Enterprise had ONE bright spot.  The penultimate episode, "In A Mirror, Darkly".  It was hilarious, fun, and full of old-Trek stuff.  One of my favourite episodes of any Trek series, probably mostly because of its contrast with the regular Enterprise episodes.
 
2013-11-17 12:13:55 PM  

ActionJoe: ThatBillmanGuy: DamnYankees: Mugato: Tr0mBoNe: UNC_Samurai: It couldn't be any worse than Enterprise Voyager

FTFY

Eh, V'ger wasn't bad when it was about 7 of 9 or the Doctor. And Enterprise wasn't that bad.

I agree on the later, but not the former. Enterprise was decent. Voyager was an abortion.

We've just started rewatching Deep Space Nine from the beginning. I'm surprised how awesome it is right off the bat, as well as how interesting the character dynamics are. I remember this show as being really boring, and about spiritual stuff, until Worf shows up and the Dominion War starts, and that's usually when I've jumped in and enjoyed it. But I'm surprised how good the beginning has been this whole time, and I never know.

Then we tried Voyager... I shut it off after they got to the holographic space farm. Seriously? You bring a ship 70,000 light years away to help care for your people, and then you don't answer thier questions about what you brought them there for, and then you get MAD at them for not wanting a glass of your space lemonade? Seems like you kind of deserve what's happened so far.

You do know that they explain why right? It's a two part opener. Seems pretty silly to put down a show within the first 20 minutes because they do not explain everything right away.


Oh, I've seen every episode before. It's just been years. I used to work at Star Trek the Experience back in 2000 - 2001 around when Voyager ended. We had a huge party with Tim Russ and Garrett Wang attending. So yeah, I get the point of the show. I'm saying, after coming back an watching it with a different eye for things than I had ten years ago, Voyager's plots, and characters, seem a lot... Stupider compared to TNG and DS9. And a lot tougher to rewatch when you know everything that happens anyway. Though, I still like the "Message in a bottle" episode.
 
2013-11-17 12:14:21 PM  

buntz: I don't know Garak (never watched DS9)


If you're a trek fan, you're missing out.  The first few seasons were sort of space station soap opera, but then the Dominion war kicks in and they get a real spaceship so they can travel a bit more, and it gets very interesting, up to the final 6-episode arc that's probably the best thing ever done in sci-fi TV.

Garak was a cool character because he was this really slimy tailor who was rumoured to be a Cardassian spy, and turned out to be an exiled ex-spy who had done some incredibly shady stuff in the past and still had some interesting contacts.  He generally didn't care if the entire universe burned down while he sat back in comfy retirement, but Bashir gradually talked him into annoyed him until he caved in and did the right thing.  A lot of people really wanted to know his whole backstory.
 
2013-11-17 12:15:25 PM  

ThatBillmanGuy: I would like to see something darker for a new Trek series. I'm not talking JJ Abrams "darker". But more like, Breaking Bad darker. Meth deaelrs in space, or something. A federation crew that goes outside the law, maybe. And we watch to see how long it takes before someone takes them down. I don't care about the specifics, thats for the writers. But It'd be neat to see something that could compete with the AMC shows. But it'd most likely end up like Agents of Shield is right now... just more of the same.


That wouldn't be Star Trek though. I liked the dark atmosphere in the mirror universe episodes and in Yesterday's Enterprise, but a whole show in darkness is just against everything Star Trek stands for. I know it's fashionable for Science Fiction to depict the future as a crappy place, but it just doesn't fit Star Trek.

Gergesa: That entire decontamination nonsense was unbearable; the writers clumsily aimed for titillation but only showed their ineptitude.


The whole franchise is full of stuff aimed for titillation, starting with the costumes in the original show, and suddenly it's so bad that you hate it? Enterprise had some weak episodes, but also some of the best in the whole Star Trek universe.
 
2013-11-17 12:17:28 PM  
After watching Battlestar Galactica, I said to myself "THAT'S what Voyager should have been like." So much wasted potential on that series, I can only count a handful of episodes that were actually good. And I should know, because I watched that damn show from the mediocre start to bitter end. It's the show that introduced me to the concept of hate-watching, in which you watch a show for the sole purpose of complaining about it on the internet; any good episodes are a bonus.

I had so much hope for Enterprise. I loved the premise, exploring the early years of the Federation. However, the fourth season should have been the first, with the fallout from Khan's superhumans being the season-long plot arc. Sadly, the show never took storytelling seriously until it was too late, choosing to focus more on their attempts to make the series sexy, the ridiculous deconamination chamber being a prime example. (Nerd nitpick time: if you have to decontaminate people, don't put the chamber in sickbay, put it in the freaking shuttlebay so the contaminated people don't walk halfway across the ship.)

Both of those series could have been good, but they were consistently mediocre at best, with a few great episodes and many more truly awful ones.
 
2013-11-17 12:18:49 PM  

Hiro-ACiD: /the DS9 Trouble with Tribbles is my favourite episode, Dax's in miniskirt = awesome


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Besides the awesome mini-skirted Dax, that was an impressive episode FX-wise that blended DS9 and the original show without CGI.
 
2013-11-17 12:22:08 PM  

ThatBillmanGuy: Mugato: DamnYankees: I agree on the later, but not the former. Enterprise was decent. Voyager was an abortion.

Enterprise actually got good in the last season (except for the last episode). And Voyager had some good episodes, IMO. The characters were just so boring (except the aforementioned Doctor and Borg Girl).

I'd like a new TV series. Trek does better as a TV show than in motion picture form.

I would like to see something darker for a new Trek series. I'm not talking JJ Abrams "darker". But more like, Breaking Bad darker. Meth deaelrs in space, or something. A federation crew that goes outside the law, maybe. And we watch to see how long it takes before someone takes them down. I don't care about the specifics, thats for the writers. But It'd be neat to see something that could compete with the AMC shows. But it'd most likely end up like Agents of Shield is right now... just more of the same.


So what you want is to bring back Firefly,.  I'll back that
 
2013-11-17 12:24:25 PM  

ThatBillmanGuy: Then that very last episode of Riker chopping vegetables for an hour was kind of a dump being taken on the whole series, as well as the actors who were in the show, before it. Oh wait, I'm sorry, it was a "valentine to the fans." Because what we all wanted was more Riker. I understand Jolene Blalock was super pissed about how it all ended.


I don't know what you're going on about.  Terra Prime was the last episode of Enterprise.
 
2013-11-17 12:24:43 PM  
Mmhm, i might get nerd raged all over at for this, but i just have to say that i actually liked Enterprise. They could have done it better, but i still liked it. And Voyager.

DS9 still best ST series of all time, though.
 
2013-11-17 12:25:10 PM  

Klopfer: ThatBillmanGuy: I would like to see something darker for a new Trek series. I'm not talking JJ Abrams "darker". But more like, Breaking Bad darker. Meth deaelrs in space, or something. A federation crew that goes outside the law, maybe. And we watch to see how long it takes before someone takes them down. I don't care about the specifics, thats for the writers. But It'd be neat to see something that could compete with the AMC shows. But it'd most likely end up like Agents of Shield is right now... just more of the same.

That wouldn't be Star Trek though. I liked the dark atmosphere in the mirror universe episodes and in Yesterday's Enterprise, but a whole show in darkness is just against everything Star Trek stands for. I know it's fashionable for Science Fiction to depict the future as a crappy place, but it just doesn't fit Star Trek.

Gergesa: That entire decontamination nonsense was unbearable; the writers clumsily aimed for titillation but only showed their ineptitude.

The whole franchise is full of stuff aimed for titillation, starting with the costumes in the original show, and suddenly it's so bad that you hate it? Enterprise had some weak episodes, but also some of the best in the whole Star Trek universe.


Yeah, you're right, actually. Just another bunch of humans running around thinking they're right about everything just doesn't seem interesting anymore.
 
2013-11-17 12:26:33 PM  

UNC_Samurai: It couldn't be any worse than Enterprise.


... said the hipster who can't appreciate how awesome Bakula, Trineer, and Billingsley really are as actors and people (I'll give Blalock credit for being well suited for playing T'Pol and genuinely caring about franchise).

Even Park had some awesome moments (not a knock on her acting, they just didn't seem to know what to do with most of the lower ranking bridge crew).
 
2013-11-17 12:27:13 PM  

Smeggy Smurf: ThatBillmanGuy: Mugato: DamnYankees: I agree on the later, but not the former. Enterprise was decent. Voyager was an abortion.

Enterprise actually got good in the last season (except for the last episode). And Voyager had some good episodes, IMO. The characters were just so boring (except the aforementioned Doctor and Borg Girl).

I'd like a new TV series. Trek does better as a TV show than in motion picture form.

I would like to see something darker for a new Trek series. I'm not talking JJ Abrams "darker". But more like, Breaking Bad darker. Meth deaelrs in space, or something. A federation crew that goes outside the law, maybe. And we watch to see how long it takes before someone takes them down. I don't care about the specifics, thats for the writers. But It'd be neat to see something that could compete with the AMC shows. But it'd most likely end up like Agents of Shield is right now... just more of the same.

So what you want is to bring back Firefly,.  I'll back that


Not what I was thinking. Heh. If they did bring back firefly, I'd rather they did a different ship and crew in the same universe, since all the actors have moved on. Surprised they haven't done that already, to be honest.
 
2013-11-17 12:28:52 PM  

ThatBillmanGuy: Fail in Human Form: UNC_Samurai: It couldn't be any worse than Enterprise.

Enterprise stumbled in the early seasons, but was getting pretty entertaining by the last season.  Poor writing doomed it.

Then that very last episode of Riker chopping vegetables for an hour was kind of a dump being taken on the whole series, as well as the actors who were in the show, before it. Oh wait, I'm sorry, it was a "valentine to the fans." Because what we all wanted was more Riker. I understand Jolene Blalock was super pissed about how it all ended.


I agree, that ending was horrible.
 
2013-11-17 12:29:51 PM  

DamnYankees:  Voyager was an abortion.


I disagree.  Abortion should be legal.
 
2013-11-17 12:33:51 PM  

Mugato: Tr0mBoNe: UNC_Samurai: It couldn't be any worse than Enterprise Voyager

FTFY

Eh, V'ger wasn't bad when it was about 7 of 9 or the Doctor. And Enterprise wasn't that bad.


Except for episodes where 7 of 9 and/or the doctor were singing.
 
2013-11-17 12:41:45 PM  

ThatBillmanGuy: Mugato: DamnYankees: I agree on the later, but not the former. Enterprise was decent. Voyager was an abortion.

Enterprise actually got good in the last season (except for the last episode). And Voyager had some good episodes, IMO. The characters were just so boring (except the aforementioned Doctor and Borg Girl).

I'd like a new TV series. Trek does better as a TV show than in motion picture form.

I would like to see something darker for a new Trek series. I'm not talking JJ Abrams "darker". But more like, Breaking Bad darker. Meth deaelrs in space, or something. A federation crew that goes outside the law, maybe. And we watch to see how long it takes before someone takes them down. I don't care about the specifics, thats for the writers. But It'd be neat to see something that could compete with the AMC shows. But it'd most likely end up like Agents of Shield is right now... just more of the same.


So what you're saying is "revive Firefly?"
 
2013-11-17 12:47:31 PM  

Mugato: an impressive episode FX-wise that blended DS9 and the original show without CGI


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or a $3M CGI budget, making it one of the most expensive hours of television ever.
 
2013-11-17 12:47:39 PM  

ThatBillmanGuy: Mugato: DamnYankees: I agree on the later, but not the former. Enterprise was decent. Voyager was an abortion.

Enterprise actually got good in the last season (except for the last episode). And Voyager had some good episodes, IMO. The characters were just so boring (except the aforementioned Doctor and Borg Girl).

I'd like a new TV series. Trek does better as a TV show than in motion picture form.

I would like to see something darker for a new Trek series. I'm not talking JJ Abrams "darker". But more like, Breaking Bad darker. Meth deaelrs in space, or something. A federation crew that goes outside the law, maybe. And we watch to see how long it takes before someone takes them down. I don't care about the specifics, thats for the writers. But It'd be neat to see something that could compete with the AMC shows. But it'd most likely end up like Agents of Shield is right now... just more of the same.


There are storyboards and scripts up for a Star Trek cartoon that never was, set in the late 25th Century I think.  The Federation was aggressively isolationist, starships had "Protocol Officers" that stood outside of the chain of command, and the Enterprise of this series was a creaky old battleship stuck on border patrol.

The security team was pretty cool.  Borg-derived implants gave them digital telepathy for coordinating ambushes.

http://www.startrekff.com/history/
 
2013-11-17 12:48:26 PM  

Klopfer: I know it's fashionable for Science Fiction to depict the future as a crappy place, but it just doesn't fit Star Trek.


I don't know what "fashionable" means but DS9 didn't depict the future as crappy, just a little more realistic than Roddenberry's vision.

I mean are we really going rid the world of war, religion and money in 300 years? It didn't even make sense, they're still at war with the Klingons and Romulans and everyone else so it's not like there's no conflict. And they use money on and off whenever the plot calls for it. DS9 was at least realistic and consistent.

/besides, according to Roddenberry we had WWIII in the '90s
 
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